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Re: [collegebcs] Re: Never too early

I'm not sure we will ever see the typw of playoff system that will truly corwn
an NCAA Division I champion.

College Presidents and Bowl Committees don't want to tinker with what they have
in an effort to make it a little better.

As far as the Big 10/Pac 10 giving up the Rose Bowl, that may not happen
eiether.

They wanted to be a part of the BCS, and clamored for it years ago, if I am not
mistaken. Just so they could have a piece of the pie and prestige.

But when push came to shove, they didn't like losing their "Traditional" pairing
of B10/P10, even in an off (non-title game)year.

I'm not sure they are willing to do what you are suggesting, even if it means
getting title game every four years.e

bamilianhomebiz@...> wrote:

>It will be a long time until we see a full-blown 8 or 16 team playoff in
college football as much as I think it would be the most fair way to finally
determine a real NCAA D1 National Champion. Our best bet is to rely on
baby-steps. We already basically have a 2-team playoff. Since the BCS started in
1998, this has proved to not be enough as there have been many #3 or #4 teams
that were just as deserving of a shot as the #2 teams were (see Ohio St in 1998,
Miami and Washington in 2000, Oregon and Colorado in 2001, USC in 2003, and
Auburn and Utah in 2004.)
>
>By simply expanding this 2-team playoff to a 4-team playoff, you erase a LOT of
controversy and all you're doing is adding just ONE extra game for just TWO
teams aka "plus one." Yes, you may have the once every ten year issue of the #5
team having a gripe, but it seems as if 90% of the time, no one outside of the
top four really has a legit claim to playing for it all. It's tough to finish in
the top four - you usually need to finish either unbeaten or with one loss. If
you had two losses and finish in the top four, it's because you played a heck of
a schedule. You have to cut it off somewhere, and cutting it off at the top
four, while it might not be perfect, it's much better than just including the
top two which clearly isn't enough slots to include the deserving teams.
>
>The format is simple: you just need THREE bowl games to agree to host this
"College Football Final Four." Let's say it was the original Bowl Coalition
Bowls: Fiesta, Sugar, and Orange. The top four teams are determined after the
conference title games either by whatever BCS rankings are in place or a
selection committee similar to NCAA Basketball. Teams are seeded 1-4 and play in
a 1v4, 2v3 format in two of the bowl games, with the winners playing a week
later in the championship game. All other regular bowl games still go on as
usual.
>
>These three big selected bowl games rotate the title game meaning they would
host a semi-final two out of every three seasons, and a title game once out of
every three seasons. Of course you would have to either get the PAC 10 / BIG 10
to agree to give up the Rose Bowl relationship for this to happen, or you would
have to get the Rose to agree to join the rotation. I know this is asking a lot,
but it's time to move forward and forget "tradition." This has gone on too long
and we need to fix this ridiculous system.
>
>
>
>lddjj <lddjj@...> wrote:
>Michael, as a Texas fan I know I speak for most, if not all
>Longhorns, when I say it was a great experience to play Michigan in
>Rose Bowl.  What a great and classy school/program you have in
>Michigan.  Your fans were awesome.  To me, this is what College
>Football is all about.  I know I may have enjoyed the game a little
>more, but what a game.  It was truly a game one had to win, but
>neither deserved to lose. Our QB (Vince) gets lots of credit, but
>your true frosh QB (Chad) played like a senior.  No joke about the
>possibility of Michigan playing in the Rose Bowl again next year.
>
>It is time for a playoff of 4/8 teams.  I really think they could
>incorporate the BCS Bowls into the playoff system.  I hate that the
>NCAA's biggest sport is the only one without a playoff to determine
>a true national champion. The title MNC really does not do justice
>to this great sport.
>
>--- In collegebcs@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Stehlin"
><mjstehlin@m...> wrote:
>> As a Michigan guy the Rose Bowl broke my heart in one way but wow
>what a
>> game. When the initial pain subsided I was very very proud of the
>effort and
>> the performance. It was a classic between 2 pretty good teams and
>one of the
>> reasons both will likely be top 5 or so preseason. Sub-par might
>be too
>> strong a word but with 2 true-frosh in the back-field and a D that
>had a few
>> holes it wasn't as strong as we will be this year. Im hoping for a
>rematch
>> in the Rose Bowl this year :-)
>>
>> >From: "I will let u know" <investigatorkilo@y...>
>> >Reply-To: collegebcs@yahoogroups.com
>> >To: collegebcs@yahoogroups.com
>> >Subject: [collegebcs] Re: Never too early
>> >Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:53:56 -0000
>> >
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I hope we can agree that The Trojans have to be favored again. Even though Chow is gone there is still enough there to repeat. Hopefully after last season the...
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... What are you talking about?...
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Not sure but my take is he is referring to the fact that depite the hype some of the luster was off the B12 last year. The B12 North was a disaster last year...
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... I am talking about Texas and OU. OU was really man handled the last two years in the BCS and they are supposed to be the best the Big 12 has to offer. Now...
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As a Michigan guy the Rose Bowl broke my heart in one way but wow what a game. When the initial pain subsided I was very very proud of the effort and the...
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... Do you realize what you just said? A Big Ten fan doesn't want his team to play a Pac Ten team in the Rose Bowl? What's wrong with you? LOL Mike (:-þ)...
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Tradition is great, I think it is part of what makes CFB so great. Tradition should NOT be tossed out arbitrarily and as far as Im concerend there is nothing...
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Michael, as a Texas fan I know I speak for most, if not all Longhorns, when I say it was a great experience to play Michigan in Rose Bowl. What a great and...
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