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RE: [collegebcs] Notre Dame's opener





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From: Trader Kevin [mailto:cbot_kevin@...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 11:00 AM
To: collegebcs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [collegebcs] Notre Dame's opener



Jerry Palm:

>> Last year, eight I-A schools opened at home against
teams that had already played a game, and six won,
including ND over Wash St. I'll try and research
further back as well.<<

That's why I wrote "the conventional wisdom is that
the single biggest improvement for any college
football team occurs between the first and second
games of the season." I didn't state it as a fact
because I didn't do any research.



-> I didn't mean to imply that you did.


As you know, a sample size of eight games is far too
small for statistical significance, especially without
accounting for the strength of the teams and
home-field advantage. Nor can improvement always be
measured in wins and losses.





That's why I want to go back further, but that was the best I could do on
short notice.


Penn State Proud, Trade Kevin





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Wed Jun 16, 2004 5:31 pm

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Here's an amusing article about Notre Dame trying to get a game under their belt before playing Michigan on September 11th. Enjoy. SOUTH BEND, Ind. (AP)--Notre...
Trader Kevin
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Jun 14, 2004
12:42 pm

This is a done deal now. ND plays at BYU on Sept 4th. USC now plays at BYU on Sept. 18th. I cannot believe they were able to pull this off. Now if only BYU...
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Jun 14, 2004
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Notre Dame could play 100 games before they play Michigan and they'd still stink. The ironic thing about all this is that whomever came up with this moronic...
John Martin
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Jun 15, 2004
9:59 pm

... Michigan and they'd still stink. The ironic thing about all this is that whomever came up with this moronic idea completely disrespected BYU. Not that they...
Trader Kevin
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Jun 16, 2004
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Last year, eight I-A schools opened at home against teams that had already played a game, and six won, including ND over Wash St. I'll try and research...
Jerry Palm
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Jun 16, 2004
2:52 pm

... teams that had already played a game, and six won, including ND over Wash St. I'll try and research further back as well.<< That's why I wrote "the...
Trader Kevin
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Jun 16, 2004
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_____ From: Trader Kevin [mailto:cbot_kevin@...] Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 11:00 AM To: collegebcs@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [collegebcs] Notre...
Jerry Palm
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Jun 16, 2004
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OK - I guess moronic was a bit harsh :) My point is that ND shouldn't be playing up this Michigan game for more than it is. In 2002 they beat Michigan and go...
John Martin
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Jun 17, 2004
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... Michigan game for more than it is...I personally think Notre Dame is closer to "even footing" with BYU than with Michigan and I just don't think that you...
Trader Kevin
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Jun 18, 2004
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If the second scenario makes much more sense (and I think you'd agree that it does), why criticize Notre Dame for making it happen? Penn State Proud, Trader...
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Jun 21, 2004
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... produced ... What hasn't been mentioned yet is that BYU now gets to open the season against Notre Dame instead of USC, who now moves to the THIRD game on...
cougisbcs
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Jun 23, 2004
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... think you'd agree that it does), why criticize Notre Dame for making it happen?<< ... treatment, causing six or seven other teams to juggle their schedule,...
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Jun 24, 2004
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In a message dated 6/17/04 6:47:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ... I sincerely hope you are right and that this comes to pass...esp the UM game. No matter how...
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Jun 18, 2004
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You know why they seek special treatment? Because they're special. And if Michigan would just play it's first game against ND like they should, this wouldn't...
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Jun 23, 2004
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You know why they seek special treatment? Because they're special. And if Michigan would just play it's first game against ND like they should, this wouldn't...
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Jun 23, 2004
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... We had special kids in my neighborhood. They rode the short bus. ... I think they should too, so ND can get its first (of many) losses under its belt and...
Mark Stang
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In a message dated 6/23/04 7:29:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time, TGRyan23@... ... HUH??? "Like they should" ???? I prefer when UM has a game before playing ...
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Jun 23, 2004
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So then what's everyone complaining about? They changed it up a little late, it doesn't seemed to have affected anyone that bad, yet people still complain. If...
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Jun 23, 2004
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My point was, and still is, out of respect to all the teams involved, ND should have made any and all schedule changes months ago. I doubt the BYU game was...
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Jun 24, 2004
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... Because we hate Notre Lame. Actually, we hate Notre Lam fans, and therefore by association, Notre Lame itself. ... They need more than one gimme game to...
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