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RE: [collegebcs] Notre Dame's opener

Last year, eight I-A schools opened at home against teams that had already
played a game, and six won, including ND over Wash St. I'll try and
research further back as well.



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From: Trader Kevin [mailto:cbot_kevin@...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 8:08 AM
To: collegebcs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [collegebcs] Notre Dame's opener



John Martin:

>> Notre Dame could play 100 games before they play
Michigan and they'd still stink. The ironic thing
about all this is that whomever came up with this
moronic idea completely disrespected BYU. Not that
they deserve any respect mind you, but college
football has a lot to do with psychology and the
message conveyed by this move is that Notre Dame needs
a practice game before they play the "real" game
against Michigan.<<

Please explain why it's "moronic" to put your team on
an even footing with a bitter rival. I'm not in the
habit of defending Notre Dame, but you're reading this
all wrong.

Before the change of schedules, Notre Dame was
scheduled to open with Michigan. If it's the opener
for both teams, no problem, but UM would have had a
game under their belt. The conventional wisdom is that
the single biggest improvement for any college
football team occurs between the first and second
games of the season.

Now the Domers will play BYU in the opener for both
teams and Michigan in the second game for both teams.
This strikes me as very fair and very sensible.

Penn State Proud, Trader Kevin






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Wed Jun 16, 2004 2:51 pm

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Here's an amusing article about Notre Dame trying to get a game under their belt before playing Michigan on September 11th. Enjoy. SOUTH BEND, Ind. (AP)--Notre...
Trader Kevin
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Jun 14, 2004
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This is a done deal now. ND plays at BYU on Sept 4th. USC now plays at BYU on Sept. 18th. I cannot believe they were able to pull this off. Now if only BYU...
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Notre Dame could play 100 games before they play Michigan and they'd still stink. The ironic thing about all this is that whomever came up with this moronic...
John Martin
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Jun 15, 2004
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... Michigan and they'd still stink. The ironic thing about all this is that whomever came up with this moronic idea completely disrespected BYU. Not that they...
Trader Kevin
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Jun 16, 2004
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Last year, eight I-A schools opened at home against teams that had already played a game, and six won, including ND over Wash St. I'll try and research...
Jerry Palm
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Jun 16, 2004
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... teams that had already played a game, and six won, including ND over Wash St. I'll try and research further back as well.<< That's why I wrote "the...
Trader Kevin
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_____ From: Trader Kevin [mailto:cbot_kevin@...] Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 11:00 AM To: collegebcs@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [collegebcs] Notre...
Jerry Palm
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Jun 16, 2004
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OK - I guess moronic was a bit harsh :) My point is that ND shouldn't be playing up this Michigan game for more than it is. In 2002 they beat Michigan and go...
John Martin
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Jun 17, 2004
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... Michigan game for more than it is...I personally think Notre Dame is closer to "even footing" with BYU than with Michigan and I just don't think that you...
Trader Kevin
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Jun 18, 2004
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If the second scenario makes much more sense (and I think you'd agree that it does), why criticize Notre Dame for making it happen? Penn State Proud, Trader...
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Jun 21, 2004
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... produced ... What hasn't been mentioned yet is that BYU now gets to open the season against Notre Dame instead of USC, who now moves to the THIRD game on...
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Jun 23, 2004
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... think you'd agree that it does), why criticize Notre Dame for making it happen?<< ... treatment, causing six or seven other teams to juggle their schedule,...
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In a message dated 6/17/04 6:47:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ... I sincerely hope you are right and that this comes to pass...esp the UM game. No matter how...
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Jun 18, 2004
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You know why they seek special treatment? Because they're special. And if Michigan would just play it's first game against ND like they should, this wouldn't...
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Jun 23, 2004
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You know why they seek special treatment? Because they're special. And if Michigan would just play it's first game against ND like they should, this wouldn't...
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... We had special kids in my neighborhood. They rode the short bus. ... I think they should too, so ND can get its first (of many) losses under its belt and...
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In a message dated 6/23/04 7:29:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time, TGRyan23@... ... HUH??? "Like they should" ???? I prefer when UM has a game before playing ...
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So then what's everyone complaining about? They changed it up a little late, it doesn't seemed to have affected anyone that bad, yet people still complain. If...
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My point was, and still is, out of respect to all the teams involved, ND should have made any and all schedule changes months ago. I doubt the BYU game was...
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... Because we hate Notre Lame. Actually, we hate Notre Lam fans, and therefore by association, Notre Lame itself. ... They need more than one gimme game to...
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