Hi Ken! I saw these not o nley in this Savate pics but in some for pygilism. I thing that its come from the fencing, and know the changes in Savate in handposition become after meeted the england boxers (like in many east M.A.).In batasite in the links have o ne selfdefence manual (sorry but forget the autor and not sure in the year mabe1747) and here thay punching like that. I wish to tell about something that I readed in o ne Enciklopedia of martial arts , published in Belarus or Russian. Here wrote that english style of boxing (under engl.st the autor have in mind the fight o n big distanc with singles jabs) were created from o ne jew.The reason for these is that the fighter after the fight must to pay for medical help for his oponent. With those style enjuries were not big and from these the jew saved his money.:) Do you understand these and if yes what do you thing?
>-------- Оригинално писмо -------- >От: "Ken Pfrenger" >Относно: Re: [classicpugilism] lunge step >До: classicpugilism@yahoogroups.com >Изпратено на: Вторник, 2004, Април 27 15:04:37 EEST >---------------------------------- >
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Ivan Jack Dempsey, explains the drop or Long Falling Step better than anyone else. I use it as I slip left under a left punch to counter with a right...
Hi Ken! I saw these not o nley in this Savate pics but in some for pygilism. I thing that its come from the fencing, and know the changes in Savate in...
The book is Edmund Price Science of Self Defense 1867 ... http://sport.netinfo.bg - Всичко за спорта! The book is Edmund Price Science of Self Defense 1867...
... From: Ivan Ivanov To: classicpugilism@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 9:13 AM Subject: Re: RE: [classicpugilism] lunge step ... Yes I mean...
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Hi Ivan, I agree with what you are saying about taking an opponent out quickly. I also agree that in a one vs. one situation, grappling is excellent. However, ...
Yes you are right.In most of cases the asailants are two and more. And here I very much respect o ne theseis vrom Viet-Vo-Dao-If the oponetnt more from o ne...
Thanks Krum, Yes your English is good - Much better than my Bulgarian! I have had a similar experience when I went to the ground with a guy in a bar and his ...
... Hi I'm new here (from the bata and C&E groups). It has been my experience and my policy to stay on my feet as long as possible... However almost every...
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I have heard of this as a sport - the aim is to trip or sweep or knock your opponent so his shoulders are on the ground. I believe it is from Norfolk, where...
From these one russian autor maked conclusion that begin savat:) Cheers-Krum ... http://sport.netinfo.bg - Всичко за спорта! From these one russian autor maked...
... Well, that's not the most bizarre "origins of savate" I've heard. The most bizarre would have to be that Savate is a bastardization of Capoeira which...
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... Do not worry about your grammar or spelling. Everyone here knows that English is not your first language. Your grammar has not cause any significant...
Thank you Leslie! I just make little joke!I see that you are o nline now.Sorry that havent stell ISQ to talk a little:) Now to you is day -Have a nice day. ...
... I go by Kirk but we just had a major change-over in our network system and it has labled me by my (unused) first name. <shrug> ... Ah. Not a problem...
... From: <dibach70@...> ... Hi David, Gilbey was none other that Robert W Smith(the martial arts author not the guy from the Cure). Much of his secret...
Ken, Thanks for the links! Please tell me more about Robert Smith. Where did you come by the info that he wrote the books attributed to Gilbey? That's so...
... From: <dibach70@...> To: <classicpugilism@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 4:50 AM Subject: [classicpugilism] Re: Purring and Sparring...
... Well, it depends on the rule set used. See Ken's "A Discussion of Boxing Stances Through History" (http://ahfaa.org/boxingstance.htm). The fights under...
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