--- On Fri, 12/5/08, Tony Wolf <lone_wolf_9@...> wrote:
From: Tony Wolf <lone_wolf_9@...> Subject: RE: [classicpugilism] Re: Crazy Monkey Boxing To: classicpugilism@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, December 5, 2008, 3:15 PM
The similarities between the 52s and Crazy Monkey boxing (and the Keysi Method) have been noted before, but AFAIK there is no connection between them other than the natural co-incidence of fighting styles that draw heavily from boxing.
Tony
To: classicpugilism@ yahoogroups. com CC: western-arts@ yahoogroups. com From: andrew_flach@ yahoo.com Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 07:27:27 -0800 Subject: Re: [classicpugilism] Re: Crazy Monkey Boxing
Thanks, Ellis.
I am familiar with 52 Handblocks/Jailhous e Rock, having read of it, mainly through the Stickgrappler web pages and the work of Dennis Newsome. Although I am not qualified to comment conclusively on the matter, and despite the marked similarities between the two, I do believe that Crazy Monkey developed independantly from Jailhouse Rock and at the hands of Rodney King. Again, there is more to Crazy Monkey than strickly the defensive posture.
But it is a curious point you raise, and I will put it to Rodney, for I have been in contact with him on several occasions. He has always been gracious to reply. I'll try to report back on what he has to
say.
The similarities between the 52s and Crazy Monkey boxing (and the Keysi Method) have been noted before, but AFAIK there is no connection between them other...
Thanks, Tony. Andrew ... From: Tony Wolf <lone_wolf_9@...> Subject: RE: [classicpugilism] Re: Crazy Monkey Boxing To: classicpugilism@yahoogroups.com ...
Wow!! I must say I've never heard of this Keysi Method, but damn!! I really like it. I'm a fan of the 52's (having studied african arts) and I think I'll be...
... Hi Ellis, there are numerous KFM demo clips on YouTube, and they have also issued a number of instructional DVDs - http://www.keysikfm.com/pages/index.php ...
interesting stuff. cool clips. WHat do they do for body shots though? It's a veritable rib-fest :) ... Hi Ellis, there are numerous KFM demo clips on YouTube,...
Good question. That's what I'm wondering. Crazy Monkey addresses this; King talks about it in the YouTube video "The Myth of the Body Shot. Keysi is very...
I can't seem to find myth of the body shot. Do you have the link? The Keysi almost looks like they devloped the blows to fit the guard, and the damage that can...
Anthony, sorry. It's called Dispelling the Myth of the Body Shot. Here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R76KC-JkvyM&fmt=18 Andrew ... From: awm33@......
Again, the method of "hollow body" w/ the high guard is the same as was taught to me in Zipota. Cool, but nothing all that unusual. Dirk ... guard, and the...
Here's a link to the article that originally put me on to Crazy Monkey. It was composed with the help of a number of our list members, which is why I'm...
Honestly, this doesn't look a bit different from burmese boxing (thiang), and other indigenous bare knucks type of stuff many MMA guys train in. At first...
Which videos did you watch? Rodney does draw upon Muay Thai, but I think the base remains in western boxing. Andrew ... From: awm33@... <awm33@...> ...
I just watched the one from the link you provided and the first one on the website. Those elbowing in the clinches and head manipulation looked very familiar...
no doubt. Thus points of origination become grey. ... What does? There is massive commonality across all cultures and their respective martial systems. Similar...
... Well, the likelihood of their being single point of origination is unlikely. More likely is that, given similar problems and similar resources human...
There's only so many ways you can beat a drum so yes, similar circustances will often dictate a common independant outcome. However, I'm always suspect that...
I was thinking the same thing. I have said for years, quite simply, there are only so may ways to move effectively, so, at high levels, most MA's look the...
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