| What
follows is a correspondence between Ken and myself, from the last few
days, as well as a few more questions (found at the bottom of this
message) I have subsequently posed that still await reply. In the mean time, I though some of you might benefit from seeing the correspondence (I pray Ken won't object), perhaps having had similar questions your selves, and likewise might wish to offer your own comments. Some of the questions I have posted previously, others are revised, and the rest completely new. Ken's answers are in red. ------------------------------------------------------------------ 1. On two occasions (that I can identify), Dempsey instructs the reader not to move his feet: (a) whilst executing the rudimentary shoulder whirl movement—with feet parallel—and (b) whilst executing the movements of the shovel hook.
First, there
are some, such as Ned Beaumont, who stress the importance of
allowing the feet to pivot during the shoulder whirl/waist pivot.
Others claim it is important to set or plant the feet to derive full
power from the motion.
Second, when
I attempt the movements of the shovel hook, I find it nigh impossible
to achieve the hip hunch, without going onto the ball of the like-sided
foot (i.e., left hip, left foot, etc.), but this would seem to conflict
with the author's instructions. (I
have since found that if I am close enough to the target, I can indeed
achieve the hip hunch with the front foot flat, but only so high.
However, even with the left foot raised onto the ball, there is a
minimal effect upon the hight of the hunch. It would also seem
impossible to fire a right shovel from normal punching position,
without the rear foot pivoting).
The real question is: what did Dempsey mean by "Do not move the feet," and "Without moving the feet…" Is that to mean, no stepping, or truly and literally, no motion, whatsoever. I have always taken it to mean the latter, but now I am having to question the rightness of my interpretation.
Pivot, just do not step....at least that is how I see it.
It would seem to me that the power line would vary depending upon the location
of the target, and thus it could become rather difficult to follow the power
under certain circumstances. For example, if the left hand is lowered—for whatever reason—is the fighter then to raise the fist to shoulder height before firing? Surely not.
Likewise, in a hooking or uppercutting motion, it would seem
impossible for the fist to truly follow the power line, as, in both cases, the
line itself would be at an acute angle, following the bend of the arm. 4. If one lands with the lower three knuckles, as Dempsey
directs, with the body-weight moving in the same direction, will the power line
always take care of itself? But, it would seem to me that the very act of shuffling backwards
would require some kind of weight shift to the rear foot. Otherwise, I find
myself, essentially, hopping in reverse. Am I wrong? However, Dempsey does say to lift the shoulder and push it
forward, slightly, to guard the chin. But, in doing this, is the shoulder to
move independently of the rest of the body, or is the position to be achieved
by rotating the entire torso to the right--from the waist? If it be the latter,
then the stance would, indeed, become a bladed one.
I assume that "in advance of the lips" is not to mean that both
half-opened fists are in direct line with each other, but rather one just
offline of the other--the right four inches in advance of the lips on the right
side of the mouth, and the left 10 inches in advance of the lips on the left
side of the mouth? (I now suspect that, indeed, the author does intend for both
hands to be in line, as this would be in keeping with "centerline"
punching, which so many Wing Chun exponents refer to when talking
about this book). Thank you, Ken. I am always excited to see your emails. I. I follow most of what you said, but I still can't reconcile the pivoting of the feet when Championship Fighting states the following: A.(On the shoulder whirl) "Do not move the feet." B. (On the shovel hook mechanics) "Now without moving your feet..." C. (On hooks in general) "Thus far we have considered hooks thrown only when the feet are motionless—both shovel hooks and outside hooks—for hooks are purer and more explosive when delivered without a step." Only the last quote could suggest that he meant simply to refrain from stepping, but why on earth, then, would he say to keep the feet "motionless?" That's pretty explicit; it leaves little room for misinterpretation. II. As to the position of the hands, in the normal punching position, he states: "The upper knuckle of your left thumb should be about ten inches forward from your lips. The upper knuckle of your right thumb should be about four inches forward from your lips." That, as I envision it in my mind, would place the hands in front of the centerline--in line with each other. He says nothing, here, about holding the hands wider to draw blows. Where did you take that idea from, and how do you reconcile it with the above quote? III. Why do you not teach the shovel from the parallel position? You must have your reasons, and I'd be willing to bet they are the same ones the author had. IV. Regarding the right shovel, the author says to "use exactly the same combination of movements, but keep the left hand on guard." But surely, it is the right hip in this case that must hunch? Right? However, I find it difficult to hunch the right hip since it is so far back. What about you? Please don't think the above an effort to provoke you, or challenge. To the contrary; I value your expertise and opinion, and I only desire resolution and clarity on certain aspects of the book. Andrew |