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Re: [classicpugilism] Re: Harry Paulson of Nottingham



----- Original Message ----
From: Sergei Yurchenko <nimelennar@...>
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Sent: Thursday, 31 January, 2008 8:57:00 AM
Subject: [classicpugilism] Re: Harry Paulson of Nottingham

> It is the Ring I was thinking of. Established by Nat...[forget
surname] ?

Nat Fleischer. Then there's bad news.
[URL=http://www.cyberbox ingzone.com/ boxing/w0906- cogswell. pdf]see
this PDF file[/URL] (top of the last page):

He had an incredible collection of material. The collection which he
put together was remarkable and it is a terrible shame the way it
was handled. There is some material (in the current Ring offices)
but very little. Ring is now part of a larger syndicate. Someone
told me they actually have an offi ce in the basement of a building
in Pennsylvania. Mainly what they have is an extensive photo file.
There are some pieces of memorabilia left but very little. There
were a number of organizations that essentially preceded IBRO (the
International Boxing Research Organization) . In one of them was an
article by a member who took his family to the Ring museum. This is
when Bert Sugar was there. Getting on a freight elevator and going
to this room and the things were all over the floor, broken glass,
and people walking on them. It was just trashed. That's when it fell
apart. During a time when Dave Debusschere and other people owned it
and Sugar was hired to manage it. When Stanley Weston acquired it
upwards of 60% of it was gone. Lots of belts and things that just
never surfaced anywhere in any inventory that I ever saw. I have
pictures of things I've never seen anywhere else. After Debusschere
and those people defaulted, Nat Loubet, who had sold it to them
intact, had to come back. Not long after that the scandal broke,
with Johnny Ort and Don King padding the record books. When Loubet
found out he was humiliated but he had nothing to do with it. The
magazine had lost its credibility. What had started out as the Hall
of Fame museum was gone, trashed, it was just a mess. (Harry Shaffer)


How incredibly sad. Perhaps there might be a photographic record of Bendigo's prizes in that basement.


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Hi gents Glad to find and join this group. My ancestor Harry Paulson was raised in Newark & Nottingham and fought by the old rules between about 1830 and 1870....
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Jan 30, 2008
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... You've seen all articles from Famous Fights Past & Present about their fights? From the ones I own, No. 27-28 described his three fights with Tom Paddock,...
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... a> fights? From the ones I own, No. 27-28 described his three fights with ... Hi Sergei I have copies of Famous Fights and Pugilistica relating to Paulson....
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... everything ... Not so sure, as the author of FF P&P was present at some fights himself, knew some pugilists (including Bendigo: "In 1870 ... I remember...
Sergei Yurchenko
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Jan 30, 2008
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... I bow to your knowledge here, clearly you know your stuff! ... Well I have been to the Forest Tavern and the present owner has no idea where the trophies...
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Jan 31, 2008
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... Nah. I only know how to work with sources, and have some on my own (I'm planning one day to write a book on the history of bareknuckle boxing, but it'll be...
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... Hi Jerry, ... Good to hear from you and thanks for the great info. ... Bendigo the Great is a great hero of mine, not surprising seeing as I hail from...
Terry Brown
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Jan 30, 2008
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... relating ... brother, ... Hi Terry Good to hear from a Nottingham man. I was born there but never lived there, although I do regularly get to see family up...
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... Hi Jerry, ... I've lived in London since 1979 but I still get up there from time to time. I have actually drunk in the Forest Tavern, many Moons ago:) ... ...
Terry Brown
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... From: Sergei Yurchenko <nimelennar@...> To: classicpugilism@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, 31 January, 2008 3:31:33 AM Subject: [classicpugilism]...
Jerry Glover
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... surname] ? Nat Fleischer. Then there's bad news. [URL=http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/boxing/w0906-cogswell.pdf]see this PDF file[/URL] (top of the last...
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... From: Sergei Yurchenko <nimelennar@...> To: classicpugilism@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, 31 January, 2008 8:57:00 AM Subject: [classicpugilism]...
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