--- In classicpugilism@yahoogroups.com, "Ken
Pfrenger" <kenpfrenger@...> wrote:
>
> On 12/14/06, mrafoshei <m.a.rafoshei@...> wrote:
> > Hi there everyone, I hope you excuse my rather sloppy English and
my
> > asking of questions who has surely been answered before. (But
theres
> > just to much info here to sort through it all...)
> >
> > I am just wondering about the more "dirty" tricks of bkb and I
have
> > heard rumors of kneeing, elbowing and kicking. But I can't seem to
> > find any of it in any manual I posess. So if there is anyone out
> > there who knows anything about the use of said techniques in bkb I
> > would be most happy to be enlightened! I do suppose that theese
> > techniques would be used before the LPR times?
>
> Dirty tricks have long been part of the game...as Terry mentioned,
> Parkyns adcocated a strong headbutt to the chest of your opponent.
>
> A manual by Bart Doran written in the late 1800's discusses a knee
> thrown in a fight to an oppon aents midsection. I will have to dig
out
> my copy to confirm this though.
>
> Both FItzsimmons and Proffessor Donovan illustrate both the pivot
blow
> and the foul pivot blow which was nothing more than a spinning back
> elbow.
>
> Accounts of the Humphries, Mendoza fights describe eye gouges.
>
> Even in the modern era these types of things were done...Rocky
> Marciano would intentionally miss with his big overhand right and
> smash into the face of his opponent with the point of his elbow.
>
> Old boxing trick of stepping on your opponents foot right before you
> punch him can be seen in Ali's fight against Chuck Wepner.....bottom
> line, boxing is dirty and always has been but isn't that one of the
> things we like so much about it?
>
> Ken
>


Thank you all for your replies. Bkboxing sure is interesting, so
would it be wrong in a figth to throw out an elbow, or perhaps
headbut? Altough lpr-erea has the great glory, my biggest interest is
pre and during the Broughtoun rules. And after the little I have read
everything was allowed before those rules, right? Thus it would not
be wrong to teach anyone in my study group the use of say an elbow,
or punch to the groin? How about a kick to the knee or shin? And
also, gouging the eyes and putting your fingers on the inside of the
mouth and ripping out was also "part of the game"?
Sorry about asking questions that surely has been asked a thousand
times, but I find it frustrating to read through hundreds of
messages.