Search the web
Sign In
New User? Sign Up
classicpugilism · Classic Pugilism
? Already a member? Sign in to Yahoo!

Yahoo! Groups Tips

Did you know...
Real people. Real stories. See how Yahoo! Groups impacts members worldwide.

Best of Y! Groups

   Check them out and nominate your group.
Having problems with message search? Fill out this form to ensure your group is one of the first to be migrated to the new message search system.

Messages

  Messages Help
Advanced
Solar Plexus Punch   Message List  
Reply | Forward Message #1169 of 3103 |
RE: [classicpugilism] Re: Solar Plexus Punch

"In the "normal" punching position, the outside left hook is very useful as a lead that shoots behind the guarding right hand. And it is useful as a counter that "beats to the punch" a straight right started by your opponent. However, it is so difficult to get proper power into an outside left hook (without telegraphing) that the "corkscrew" is used. The late Kid McCoy, foxy old-time middleweight, made famous the corkscrew left hook.

"Try the corkscrew on the bag. Stand in normal position. Do the following movements slowly:

-Start your shoulder whirl as if you were to shoot a medium-range left jab. No preparatory movement.

-Instead of jabbing, however, SNAP YOUR LEFT FOREARM AND FIST DOWN AND YOUR LEFT ELBOW UP.

-Your left fist snaps down with a screwing motion that causes your striking knuckles to land properly on the target.

-When your fist explodes against the target, your forearm is almost parallel to the floor (illustration is shown in book).

"When you first try the corkscrew, the combination of movements will seem silly and futile. Ti will seem like a fizzle. With a little practice, however, you'll master it.

"Let me help you at this point by admitting that the corkscrew usually is a medium-range punch, and that it's usually delivered while you are circling to your opponent's right. For that reason, it's nearly impossible to keep the corkscrew as pure - as tight - as the hooks you were throwing from the ideal position. Nevertheless, you can make the corkscrew...."

"...explosive enough to stun an opponent, or at least to set him up for another punch. Moreover, if you have a potent left corkscrew that flashes in without warning, your opponent will be very cautious about menacing you with his right fist. Remember that your left hand, in normal position, is always closer to your opponent's head than his right hand is to your head. As he attempts to start a straight right, you can beat him to the punch with your countering corkscrew. Moreover, if he permits his guarding right hand to creep too far forward as he blocks or parries your left jabs, your corkscrew can snap down behind that guarding right and nail his jaw.

"Can the left corkscrew be used for body punches?

"Yes, it can be used effectively for landing left hooks to the right kidney or to the liver. It is best used, of course after a feint to the head lifts your opponent's guarding right hand high. You can use the corkscrew then as a lead. You can counter with a left corkscrew to the body, as you slip under a straight right. I'll explain "slipping" later. Let me caution you that it's dangerous to lead with a left corkscrew to the body, for your left side is open to right counters, and your head is in position to be nailed by a countering left hook.

"Can the corkscrew be used with the right hand?

"A right corkscrew to the head can be used properly only in one instance - as a counter-punch AFTER YOU HAVE BLOCKED AN OPPONENT'S LEFT HOOK WITH YOUR RIGHT FOREARM. At the instant the block is achieved, your right fist flashes down in a corkscrew hook to your opponent's left jawbone. (illustration shown in book). You can use a right corkscrew to the body as you slip under a left jab.

"Thus far we have considered hooks thrown only when the feet are motionless - both shovel hooks and outside hooks; for hooks are purer and more explosive when delivered without a step. However, about 1/3 of all hooking openings can be reached only by stepping in, to bring the target within hooking range."

"Always try to nail a long-range target (either body or head) with stepping straight punches. However, if your opponent is blocking, evading, or countering those straight blows, you can resort to long-range hooking attempts. YOU CAN STEP IN WITH ANY TYPE OF HOOK, IF NECCESSARY.

"You'll step in most with the left corkscrew. But when you step with the corkscrew, you do not move in with a straight-forward falling step. Instead, you move in with a "pivot step." You:

-step forward and slightly to your own left, pointing the toe sharply in.

-Your body pivots on the ball of your left foot as you left arm and fist snap down to the target.

-At the instant of the fist-landing, your right foot generally is in the air; but it settles immediately behind you (illustration shown in the book).

"If your opponents is using hooks that are "open" or "semi-swings", you can step inside his left hook and land your own right shovel hook to his chin or to his body. In reverse, you can step inside his right hook with your own left shovel to chin or body.

"Usually when you slip a straight punch you can step beneath it with a corkscrew to the body. You can step in with hooks whenever you feel that the openings require it; but don't let your stepping cause you to open your hooks so they become swings or semi-swings. And once you do step in with a hook - regardless of its effect upon your opponent - be prepared to let that hook be first in a barrage of hooks, or the fist in a combination series of hooks. In the barrage you merely blaze away to the body and head, trying to land as many stunning hooks in the shortest time possible. The barrage may be shifted at any time from body to head, if it has brought your opponent's guard down; or, from head to body, if your opponent's guard has gone up."

"Quite different is the combination series. The series has been practiced many times in advance. It may include from three to six punches. Each punch has its particular target, and you try to make each punch find that target as you deliver them with rapid-fire speed. However, the chief aim of the series is that combination of hooks, shooting for various targets, will so confuse your opponent that his target for the final punch will be wide open.

"A series of five, for example, might be designed to open an opponent's chin for a crushing right outside hook to the chin. Such a series could be thrown like this:

1) as you slip under his left jab, you smash him in the solar plexus with a right corkscrew, followed immediately by this outside hooks:

- a left to the chin

- a right to the chin

- a left to the kidney

- a terrific right to the jaw

Jason

 

-----Original Message-----
From: classicpugilism@yahoogroups.com [mailto:classicpugilism@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Chuck Wyatt
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 1:00 PM
To: classicpugilism@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [classicpugilism] Re: Solar Plexus Punch

 

"Dempsey devotes a small section of his book to Kid McCoys
corkscrew."

Hi Ken,
Could you give us an overview of  what  Dempsey had to say about the
Corkscrew punch?
Not word for word, cliff noted would be great.
Chuck

--- In classicpugilism@yahoogroups.com, Ken Pfrenger
<kenpfrenger@g...> wrote:
> Solar Plexus punch.....possibly the most devastating body shot.
>
> As for the real McCoy and Kid McCoy.....Kid McCoy fought around the
> turn of the century mostly in the 1890's IIRC. If there are earlier
> references even if they are about the real McKay then the idea that
> the term is referenced to the boxer is most likely a folk
etymology.
>
> Dempsey devotes a small section of his book to Kid McCoys
corkscrew.
>
> Ken





Sun Aug 14, 2005 1:17 pm

banshay
Offline Offline
Send Email Send Email

Forward
Message #1169 of 3103 |
Expand Messages Author Sort by Date

Can anyone explain the effective delivery of the solar plexus punch?...
rafalrap
Offline Send Email
Aug 11, 2005
3:08 pm

... I must be misunderstanding the question because I read it and think, "Ummm... You hit the solar plexus with whatever punch you can get to land (strait...
Rabid Weasle Lawson
linuxshaman
Offline Send Email
Aug 11, 2005
4:09 pm

Is the solar plexus the target just below the rib cage below the sternum? ... I must be misunderstanding the question because I read it and think, "Ummm... You...
rafalrap
Offline Send Email
Aug 11, 2005
5:19 pm

... yeah. Here's a pic. http://www.genetunney.org/plexus.jpg Ignore the text. Peace favor your sword, Kirk...
Rabid Weasle Lawson
linuxshaman
Offline Send Email
Aug 11, 2005
6:01 pm

To answer your question, yes. The Solar Plexus muscles are the top two Abdominal muscles. They are located directly below the Sternum. The reason for the...
d_rock19128
Offline Send Email
Aug 11, 2005
8:19 pm

Can you give more details or Fitzsimmons's cockscrew punch? alan ... test'; "> __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam?...
alan stewart
spadaydaga
Offline Send Email
Aug 12, 2005
4:53 pm

No problem. But let me clarify, the corkscrew punch was not Fitzsimmons'. It was Kid McCoy who used the corkscrew back in the mid- 1800's. Fitzsimmons was...
d_rock19128
Offline Send Email
Aug 12, 2005
6:20 pm

... That's interesting. The etymology I heard for "The real McCoy" was that it came from a bootlegger of high-quality liquor named McCoy during the ...
Rabid Weasle Lawson
linuxshaman
Offline Send Email
Aug 12, 2005
7:13 pm

Actually doesn't the clichй "The real McCoy" go back to Ireland and the Leprechauns? The leprechauns as the tale goes would protect gold and sometimes what...
Guro Dennis Servaes
dennisservaes
Offline Send Email
Aug 13, 2005
2:24 am

Solar Plexus punch.....possibly the most devastating body shot. As for the real McCoy and Kid McCoy.....Kid McCoy fought around the turn of the century mostly...
Ken Pfrenger
cinaet
Offline Send Email
Aug 13, 2005
12:49 pm

"Dempsey devotes a small section of his book to Kid McCoys corkscrew." Hi Ken, Could you give us an overview of what Dempsey had to say about the Corkscrew...
Chuck Wyatt
baldmonkeyboy
Offline Send Email
Aug 13, 2005
5:00 pm

… "In the "normal" punching position, the outside left hook is very useful as a lead that shoots behind the guarding right hand. And it is useful as a ...
Jason Couch
banshay
Offline Send Email
Aug 14, 2005
1:17 pm

... Thanks for making that available Jason.....I would have gotten around to eventually but you saved me the bother:) ken...
Ken Pfrenger
cinaet
Offline Send Email
Aug 14, 2005
4:03 pm

Isn't this the same as the old "rounding blow"? Keith ... useful as ... useful as a ... your opponent. ... left hook ... McCoy, ... around...
Keith P. Myers
myers4321
Offline Send Email
Sep 5, 2005
11:30 pm

... Hi Keith, It is not too far off depending on how tight your rounding blow goes. It also only rotates to a palm down fist. Could it be a bit of a holdover...
Ken Pfrenger
cinaet
Offline Send Email
Sep 8, 2005
8:24 pm

Hey Ken! ... --I keep mine as tight as possible! :-) ... Could it be a bit of a ... Keith...
Keith P. Myers
myers4321
Offline Send Email
Sep 9, 2005
11:29 pm

... Mine go from very tight to nice and open! One old clip show JL Sullivan in his later years sparring about with another oldtimer show JL throwing a very...
Ken Pfrenger
cinaet
Offline Send Email
Sep 10, 2005
4:33 pm

These clip is somwere in the net ? I don't want Bulgaria to join THE EU ... http://www.Atol.bg - Намери бившите си съученици и стари приятели! These clip is...
Ivan Ivanov
krum_a_k
Offline Send Email
Sep 10, 2005
8:34 pm

... Sorry Krum, I have only seen these on television on ESPN Classic. Possibly the show concerning Jefferries VS Johnson. It would be great if someone had this...
Ken Pfrenger
cinaet
Offline Send Email
Sep 11, 2005
1:58 pm
Advanced

Copyright © 2009 Yahoo! Inc. All rights reserved.
Privacy Policy - Terms of Service - Guidelines - Help