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Re: [classicpugilism] Re: Solar Plexus Punch

Actually doesn't the cliché "The real McCoy" go back to Ireland and the Leprechauns? The leprechauns as the tale goes would protect gold and sometimes what was thought to be gold was actually fool’s gold aka as NOT the real McCoy. Can someone tell me if McCoy was a name for a Leprechaun? I guess I should have realized that leprechauns had a punching style, and were into distilling liquor. Lol

Train hard and have fun!

Dennis



Rabid Weasle Lawson <lawson@...> wrote:
On Fri, 2005-08-12 at 18:19 +0000, d_rock19128 wrote:

>  This punch was so effective for Kid
> McCoy, that other boxers of the day started to use his name. Hence the
> phrase, "The real McCoy".

That's interesting.  The etymology I heard for "The real McCoy" was that
it came from a bootlegger of high-quality liquor named McCoy during the
Prohibition.

Looks like even the experts are uncertain and have just decided to give
credit to both:

http://ask.yahoo.com/ask/20010601.html

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Dear Yahoo!: Where did the expression "the real McCoy" come from? James
Orangeville, California  Dear James: Unfortunately, this is one of those
puzzling questions without a definitive answer. A number of different
theories attempt to explain the origin of the phrase.

Two of the most popular theories revolve around alcohol. One suggests
that the original saying was "the real MacKay," an advertising slogan
that appeared in 1856 for a Scottish whiskey. Eventually, this saying
supposedly evolved to "the real McCoy" in the United States. The second
alcohol-related theory poses that Bill McCoy was a bootlegger in the
U.S. during Prohibition. Hence real booze became known as "the real
McCoy."

Others claim the saying refers to Elijah McCoy, an engineer born in
1844. He invented the self-regulating lubricator, which revolutionized
the industrial machine and railroad industry. Because his product was so
reliable and many inferior products were produced, buyers of the
lubricator would ask, "Is this the real McCoy?"

Yet another explanation centers on welterweight boxer Norman Selby, also
known as "Kid McCoy." Reportedly, a blow from the boxer left one victim
proclaiming, "It's the real McCoy!"

Although these are the most oft-repeated, they are by no means the only
possibilities. Chances are we'll never know the origin of this curious
expression for certain so pick your favorite story and make your case. 
==============

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk



Sat Aug 13, 2005 2:24 am

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Can anyone explain the effective delivery of the solar plexus punch?...
rafalrap
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Aug 11, 2005
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... I must be misunderstanding the question because I read it and think, "Ummm... You hit the solar plexus with whatever punch you can get to land (strait...
Rabid Weasle Lawson
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Is the solar plexus the target just below the rib cage below the sternum? ... I must be misunderstanding the question because I read it and think, "Ummm... You...
rafalrap
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Aug 11, 2005
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... yeah. Here's a pic. http://www.genetunney.org/plexus.jpg Ignore the text. Peace favor your sword, Kirk...
Rabid Weasle Lawson
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To answer your question, yes. The Solar Plexus muscles are the top two Abdominal muscles. They are located directly below the Sternum. The reason for the...
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Can you give more details or Fitzsimmons's cockscrew punch? alan ... test'; "> __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam?...
alan stewart
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Aug 12, 2005
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No problem. But let me clarify, the corkscrew punch was not Fitzsimmons'. It was Kid McCoy who used the corkscrew back in the mid- 1800's. Fitzsimmons was...
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... That's interesting. The etymology I heard for "The real McCoy" was that it came from a bootlegger of high-quality liquor named McCoy during the ...
Rabid Weasle Lawson
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Aug 12, 2005
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Actually doesn't the cliché "The real McCoy" go back to Ireland and the Leprechauns? The leprechauns as the tale goes would protect gold and sometimes what...
Guro Dennis Servaes
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Aug 13, 2005
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Solar Plexus punch.....possibly the most devastating body shot. As for the real McCoy and Kid McCoy.....Kid McCoy fought around the turn of the century mostly...
Ken Pfrenger
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Aug 13, 2005
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"Dempsey devotes a small section of his book to Kid McCoys corkscrew." Hi Ken, Could you give us an overview of what Dempsey had to say about the Corkscrew...
Chuck Wyatt
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Aug 13, 2005
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… "In the "normal" punching position, the outside left hook is very useful as a lead that shoots behind the guarding right hand. And it is useful as a ...
Jason Couch
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Aug 14, 2005
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... Thanks for making that available Jason.....I would have gotten around to eventually but you saved me the bother:) ken...
Ken Pfrenger
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Isn't this the same as the old "rounding blow"? Keith ... useful as ... useful as a ... your opponent. ... left hook ... McCoy, ... around...
Keith P. Myers
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Sep 5, 2005
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... Hi Keith, It is not too far off depending on how tight your rounding blow goes. It also only rotates to a palm down fist. Could it be a bit of a holdover...
Ken Pfrenger
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Sep 8, 2005
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Hey Ken! ... --I keep mine as tight as possible! :-) ... Could it be a bit of a ... Keith...
Keith P. Myers
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... Mine go from very tight to nice and open! One old clip show JL Sullivan in his later years sparring about with another oldtimer show JL throwing a very...
Ken Pfrenger
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These clip is somwere in the net ? I don't want Bulgaria to join THE EU ... http://www.Atol.bg - Íàìåðè áèâøèòå ñè ñúó÷åíèöè è ñòàðè ïðèÿòåëè! These clip is...
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... Sorry Krum, I have only seen these on television on ESPN Classic. Possibly the show concerning Jefferries VS Johnson. It would be great if someone had this...
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