Apparently, things are worse than I thought. Does the FIE care at all that these things are supposed to at least resemble swords in more than the fact that ...
... Thing is, in the grand scheme of things, it isn't a big issue. Cutting with the flat is a thing that is done mostly by beginners, and as a fencer...
... Well, there isn't a lot of directorial involvement, is there? No questions about who initiated the attack, tempo, right-of-way... I think the judge who...
... In Classical Fencing a cut with a sabre which lands flat (the flat side hits the target) is considered very poorly made at best, and brutality of blade at...
... As I said, I do not know if there is a technical issue or not relating to ensuring that the proper touches are actually registered. This was a problem ...
... Well, this still doesn't make Ken right (sorry, Ken), because it isn't the machine that made it so. In my experience of pre-electric, there were as many...
I don't have a lot of time to respond fully - I have to prepare for a trip and leave tomorrow, and much is left to be done - but may I just point out that all...
What?!?!?!?!?! Sorry, but (even) as an amost complete beginner to classical/historical swordplay - NO, NO, NO. What you don't seem to understand at all is that...
... Absolutely - when the worst outcome of the action is having a touch called for your opponent, you can be much more aggressive than if the worst possible...
On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 18:03:32 +0100, Simon Martin ... In terms of your own fencing, yes. The diffeence between flat and edge is not that much really. A change ...
Warren, ... I really enjoyed it a lot! I especially identified with the archaic old Master, watching his precious art die out, as the sport version became more...
... Yes, but this is the realm of competitive fencing, which I don't really care about; in the Platonic realm of classical fencing, isn't it the fact that the...
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... I think that's obvious (or should be) to everyone on this list, including those of us discussing it. By the way, I mean no disrespect to you personally...
... I know you mean no disrespect - I've never found disrespect in your on-line "voice" - and I pay careful attention to the sensible, carefully-considered ...
On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 23:01:06 -0400 (EDT), Ken Mondschein ... and doesn't the Platonic realm of classical fencing care far more about not being hit than hitting?...
"The diffeence between flat and edge is not that much really." Let's agree to disagree. Completely. "Oh, and the purpose of fencing isn't to attack people with...
I posted a message on the USFCA (US Fencing Coaches Association) members list asking if anyone remembered exactly when saber rule in question (using the flat ...
... A flat "cut" in sabre is no more effective than a flat touch in foil. Sure, it may indicate a lack of perfect defense, but it doesn't validate an otherwise...
... I would tend to think that the two are not altogether different in that respect actually. A properly executed attack would be just as important to someone...
... True, a hit with the flat of the sabre is very unlikely to do much more than superficial damage to someone. However, I think Zebee's original point is...
... I have always done recreational sabre (in fact, I dusted off my old sabre last week for my first sabre match in months) and have never participated in it...
Hello everyone, The comments about right-of-way being theoretical, academic, and "related to" fencing with sharp weapons are not quite on target, I think. ...
... Yes, but we were talking of lousy attacks "scoring," and touches that land not being counted, and how the electric apparatus changes this, etc. My point...
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... Sure, ... Dear Kim, I think what Zebee was saying, and what I believe, is that while the flat cut should be regarded as a failure by the attacker, it...
... Whereas I see the logic in this, it still ain't optimal if you have to decide who's less wrong. -Ken...
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I'd like to start hearing from classical or traditional fencers in Europe, on- and offlist. The object is to not only find out for myself what's going on,...
... True and well said. From the Classical perspective both fencers/duelists made errors which need reflection and correction. ... Amen! ... Double Amen!! I my...
... Whereas I see the need to determine who was less wrong to be unnecessary. If I'm officiating a bout at my salle I'll just say "two dead idiots" or "that ...
Zebee, ... In a duel, yes, and against someone intent on killing you, you are more than likely going to have to touch them. The way the old classical saying is...
Hey all, I was wondering if anyone has any experience with Scott Wilson's "tuned blades?" They are supposed to be a shorter, lighter weight practice rapier...
