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#8166 From: "David Chessler" <chessler@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:03 am
Subject: Re: [HistoricalSwordsmanship] Rapier Information Needed
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There is little or no evidence for multiple belts. Pants (hose) were laced to
the doublet (points). Most pictures from the era show the dagger worn in back,
nearly (but not completely) horizontal, and accessible to the RIGHT hand. The
rapier would not be used much indoors. It would not be worn, and would be hard
to use in a room of normal size. It was worn in ballrooms, and similar rooms.


The sword was worn on the left. There are several designs of "frogs" hanging
from the belt, so the hilt was about belt height in front, and the blade hung
down not so steeply as to hit the floor, but not so flat as to fall out or hit
people behind. Hitting people is a big problem, and could lead to a fight--the
sword sticks out behind you by 3 feet or so. You also had to pivot the sword
when you sat down. The sword was controlled by resting the left hand on the
hilt or scabbard at all times.

I have no idea how people got access to their main gauche weapon. I have found
no 16th C pictures with the dagger worn facing left, so it could be drawn, nor
have I seen any pictures of it worn on the right SIDE (not back) so that it
could be drawn with the left hand.

Most people use a frog that has a hook to the belt, and then gets wider to
have several straps that buckle around the scabbard. There is often a second
strap that goes across the front of the body to hook on the right side of the
belt to help control the blade.

I have made a scabbard using PVC tubing. I have to use 3/4 inch tubing so that
I can get the bird blunt (rubber tip) down the scabbard. And I had to use
electrical tubing to have a "belled" end to take the base of the blade which
is 1" or more. I then covered it with leather or leatherette. This is not a
great scabbard for dress use. If you want to wear your weapon for dress
purposes, get a second blade (even an epee  blade), without a tip. This will
let you use a regular flat scabbard. You can also use a shorter blade, which
will give you less trouble.

You can unscrew the pommel and disassemble the hilt of a rapier in a few
seconds, and reassemble it in less than a minute. Almost all modern rapiers
use a screw pommel with a 6 mm metric thread. (Some older ones use a 1/4"
thread. You can still get replacement blades, or any mechanic can re-thread
the blade. I believe Leon Paul still uses 1/4" thread)

------ Original Message ------
Received: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:34:32 PM EST
From: "ticeetal" <ticeetal@...>
To: HistoricalSwordsmanship@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HistoricalSwordsmanship] Rapier Information Needed

> Greetings,
>
> I'm looking to take on a few new leather projects, and was wondering where I
can locate a good pattern for a leather rapier hanger and sword belt belt
either online or at the library?
>
> I would also like to make a scabbard for a rebated rapier used in HEMA style
fencing. The blade is a thicker 43" "rapier-style" blade with rubber archery
blunt on the tip of the blade. What would you recommend for making a pattern
to fit the blade snuggle enough that it won't fall out of the scabbard, yet
not appear too "tubular" looking either? Also, I will be making a similar
scabbard for a main gauche.
>
> Also, was the main gauche was worn on a frog worn on the same belt as the
rapier hanger, or was it worn on a separate belt independent of the sword belt
and rapier hanger?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Matthew
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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#8165 From: "ticeetal" <ticeetal@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:28 am
Subject: Rapier Info Needed
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Greetings,

I'm looking to take on a few new leather projects, and was wondering where I can
locate a good pattern for a leather rapier hanger and sword belt belt either
online or at the library?

I would also like to make a scabbard for a rebated rapier used in HEMA style
fencing. The blade is a thicker 43" "rapier-style" blade with rubber archery
blunt on the tip of the blade. What would you recommend for making a pattern to
fit the blade snuggle enough that it won't fall out of the scabbard, yet not
appear too "tubular" looking either? Also, I will be making a similar scabbard
for a main gauche.

Also, was the main gauche was worn on a frog worn on the same belt as the rapier
hanger, or was it worn on a separate belt independent of the sword belt and
rapier hanger?

Thank you,

Matthew

#8164 From: "David Chessler" <chessler@...>
Date: Fri Nov 6, 2009 12:51 am
Subject: Fwd: [Puck Curtis] Spanish Fencing Notation Part 4 - Hand Positions
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------ Original Message ------
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Subject: Re: [RN] Spanish Fencing Notation Part 4 - Hand Positions

Hola all,

I have added the fifth in a series of blog articles concerning the Spanish
tradition of fencing Science. This article is more general and also covers
some of the physics involved with all swords. (In particular, there is an
interesting parallel with some of the German material.)

*DANGER:* Some science at work. Many creatures of various shapes and sizes
were harmed in the making of this science.

*Article 5 - Science of Swords*
http://www.puckandmary.com/blog_puck/2009/10/spanish-fencing-notation-part-5-str\
ength-of-the-weapon/

As always critical feedback is encouraged.

Puck
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#8163 From: "David Chessler" <chessler@...>
Date: Fri Oct 23, 2009 8:16 pm
Subject: Fwd: [RN] Fwd: [MidwestHistoricalFencers] WMAC Site Goes Live - wmacoalition.com
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Subject: [RN] Fwd: [MidwestHistoricalFencers] WMAC Site Goes Live -
wmacoalition.com


  For those who may be interested.

AElfred





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-----Original Message-----

From: bramblerscott <scott_crawford@...>

To: MidwestHistoricalFencers@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thu, Oct 22, 2009 8:44 am

Subject: [MidwestHistoricalFencers] WMAC Site Goes Live - wmacoalition.com
































12am Wednesday morning was the official go-live for the new WMAC website.  I
encourage everyone to check it out soon.  Though a number of us have been
involved in the planning for this, Scott Brown (from St Louis, now in Houston)
has done the Lion's share of work on this project, so I'll let Scott introduce
it all:


========


WMAC ANNOUNCEMENT





It is my great honour and even greater pleasure to formally announce the
launching of the Western Martial Arts Coalition!





The Western Martial Arts Coalition (WMAC) is a pan-American network of
like-minded individuals dedicated to the advancement of the Western Martial
Arts (also known as Historical European Martial Arts) through education,
expansion, and exploration.





The WMA-Coalition is a "round-table" organization and as such has no
hierarchal structure; each member's voice is considered on par with every
other member.





Educated readers will notice a striking similarity between the WMA-Coalition's
structure and that of the HEMAC (Historical European Martial Arts Coalition).
This is not accidental.  Witnessing the success of the HEMAC and its pivotal
role in the explosive expansion of European Martial Arts all across Europe,
the founders of the WMAC are dedicated to carrying out a similar explosion
here in North America.





The members of the Coalition hail from a wide variety of backgrounds and have
a wide variety of personal goals relating to these arts.  They have come
together freely and openly committed to working together in spite of their
differences.  To learn more about these goals please review the Western
Martial Arts Coalition Constitution located at wmacoalition.com/constitution





The WMA-Coalition has plans for several unique online and offline programs
which will be instigated via the Coalition's website and discussion forums.
Some programs will be launched in accordance with this announcement and other
programs are scheduled to roll out over the next several months.  Please stay
tuned for further announcements.





The Western Martial Arts Coalition will begin to host a variety of hands on
events consisting of workshops, lectures, and presentations dedicated to these
arts.  In the coming weeks and months it will be our pleasure to announce the
specifics surrounding our first annual Western Martial Arts Coalition
Gathering.  Please refer to the website for updates.





If you are interested in membership with the Western Martial Arts Coalition or
know of someone who may be interested please contact the Coalition via the
website or discussion forums.  Additionally, all are encouraged to forward
this notice to any and all points of related interest.





Lastly, please join me in wishing the WMAC a wonderful and successful
journey!





Sincerely,





Scott A. Brown


Member, WMAC





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#8162 From: "David Chessler" <chessler@...>
Date: Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:09 pm
Subject: Fwd: [RN] Free Iberian Greatsword Translation at Oakshotte web site
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------ Original Message ------
   Received: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 03:17:51 PM EDT
   From: Puck Curtis <puck.curtis@...>
   To: westfence@yahoogroups.com, RapierNet - Fencing in the SCA
<sca-rapier@...>, ansteorra-dons@...,
davisperiodfencing@yahoogroups.com, byfa@yahoogroups.com,
distreza@yahoogroups.com, teachingrapier@yahoogroups.com,
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smds@yahoogroups.com, Medieval_Spain@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: [RN] Free Iberian Greatsword Translation at Oakshotte web site



   Hola all,

    Announcing the first English Translation of an Iberian greatsword text
available as a free PDF file!!

    Link to the PDF file:
    http://oakeshott.org/Article.html

    From the Translators:
    "Dom Diogo Gomes de Figueiredo's work on the use of the montante, the
two-handed sword native to Spain and Portugal, is now available in English
translation. This is a relatively short work, but represents almost half of
the currently known material for this weapon from these two countries, and is
the primary source that Steve Hick and I have taught from at the last 3 WMAWs,
and that Steve Hick and Matt Galas have taught from at recent HEMAC events.
The translation, transcription, and an article on the history and context of
this weapon's use are available as a free download from the Oakeshott
Institute at http://oakeshott.org/Article.html ."

    The greatsword used in Portugal and Spain, called the Montante, also has a
place in the Spanish Destreza tradition and was considered the symbol of the
fencing masters of Spain.  It is often used by bodyguards and elite units on
the battlefield charged with defending the standard.

    Maestro Eric Myers recently completed his certification as an Italian
classical master at arms through the San Jose fencing master's program.  He
spent part of his childhood in Brazil and has taught the greatsword material
for the last 3 years at several events ranging in size from an SCA collegium
to the prestigious Western Martial Arts Workshop.

    Steve Hick should be well known to any western martial arts researcher, but
for those who haven't encountered him or his work he is a considerable talent
with an almost supernatural ability to find lost fighting books in the
archives.

    What the book contains:
    *********************************************
    The book presents pairs of 'rules' which can be thought of as sword-forms
or katas.  The first rule in the pair is a "simple rule" which defines the
theme for a drill.  The theme is taken to a new level of complexity with the
"composed rule" or the complex version of the drill.

    For example:

    Simple Rule I:  Demonstrates two cuts advancing and two cuts while
retreating.
    Composed Rule I: Demonstrates six cuts strung together moving forward and
six cuts retreating.

     The book contains 16 rules, each with a simple and composed version.
    *********************************************

    I cannot stress how much fun this material is to work through and how
useful it is to anyone who uses a greatsword on a regular basis.  While the
manual itself is beyond the SCA's period, the tradition and the manner of
teaching is older and very appropriate for the SCA's armored fighters.  I have
no doubt that learning the rules will improve the effectiveness of a martial
artist studying the greatsword.

    Please feel free to forward a link to this article to anyone interested in
greatsword work.

    Both Eric and Steve are good friends of mine and I would be happy to pass
on any feedback to the authors.

    destreza@...

    Puck Curtis
    --
    Master at Arms - San Jose Fencing Master's Program

    “Measure what is measurable, and make measurable what is not so.”
    Galileo Galilei

    Spanish Swordplay
    http://www.destreza.us/

    Italian Swordplay
    http://www.viahup.com



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#8161 From: "David Chessler" <chessler@...>
Date: Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:28 pm
Subject: Fwd: [RN] Destreza UPDATE - Treatise 2, Chapter 1 Posted (Francisco Antonio de Ettenhard)
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From: Puck Curtis <puck.curtis@...>
To: westfence@yahoogroups.com,  RapierNet - Fencing in the SCA
<sca-rapier@...>, ansteorra-dons@...,
davisperiodfencing@yahoogroups.com, byfa@yahoogroups.com,
distreza@yahoogroups.com, teachingrapier@yahoogroups.com,
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Subject: [RN] Destreza UPDATE - Treatise 2, Chapter 1 Posted (Francisco
Antonio de  Ettenhard)

Hola all,

The next piece of the Ettenhard translation (Treatise 2, Chapter 1) was
posted this morning dealing with the stance and the advantages of the Right
Angle.

Link to Translation & Transcription page:
http://www.destreza.us/translations/index.html

In addition, a transcription of Ettenhard in Spanish has been posted for
Treatise 1, and Treatise 2, Chapter 1.

Feedback that can help us improve the presentation of the material is always
encouraged and work has already begun on Treatise 2, Chapter 2 dealing with
*Movements*.

Please feel free to forward our web link to anyone who might be interested
in the work.

Puck Curtis


On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 8:56 AM, Puck Curtis <puck.curtis@...> wrote:

>
>
> Hola,
>
> First, we have finished migrating the Destreza Translation and Research
> Project to a new web host. The domain name www.destreza.us will still work
> as before, but any links that are relative to the www.plumes.org site
> should be updated. As we continue to improve the site, you can expect new
> content and surprises.
>
> As some of you know, recently our Golden Age Spanish scholar, Mary Curtis,
> was awarded a Fulbright Grant for research related to historical Spanish
> fencing. During the past year in Spain, she worked not only towards the
> completion of her PhD research but also on projects we felt would benefit
> the entire historical fencing community.
>
> The Destreza Translation and Research Project announces with great pleasure
> an English translation of don Francisco Antonio de Ettenhard's work of 1675
> Compendium of the Foundation and the True Art and Philosophy of Arms. In
> addition to the translation we will also make available a transcription of
> the work in the original Spanish.
>
> Link to Translation & Transcription page:
> http://www.destreza.us/translations/index.html
>
> (Please feel free to forward this announcement and the link to any list or
> person who may be interested in the material.)
>
> If you are a martial artist studying fencing traditions that are dated at
> 1600 and earlier, this work is absolutely critical to understanding the
> Spanish tradition.  La Verdadera Destreza was codified and masters were
> certified by board examination to preserve its integrity.  The resulting
> effect is that the system was largely uniform during this time.  The
> Ettenhard text springs from the work of Jerónimo Sánchez de Carranza in
1569
> and Luis Pacheco de Narváez who published his book The Greatness of the
> Sword in 1600 and other texts in the early 1600s. Ettenhard's work is a
> precise and concise explanation of this martial system which should be a
> significant key to unlocking Destreza for any fencer interested in the
> earlier works.
>
> A phased roll-out of the English translation begins today with the First
> Treatise concerning Geometry. The Second Treatise and the entire technical
> section of the work will be presented chapter by chapter as each section of
> the translation is revised and edited and the images are redrawn from the
> originals. When each new portion of the text is released, we will provide a
> new announcement.
>
> This version of the translation is being provided at no charge as a PDF on
> our website, but if there is public demand for a printed version, we may
> make a special edition available through Lulu.com.
>
> As with any work we provide, we encourage critical feedback that we can use
> to improve our presentation of the material.
>
> Finally, we owe a special debt of thanks to all the fencers and scholars of
> Spain, both those from antiquity and those still studying today, for
sharing
> their tradition with us. Special recognition and thanks to Dr. Manuel Valle
> who opened his home and especially his collection of books to us. We would
> also like to thank Alberto Bomprezzi and our many friends training with the
> Asociación Espańola de Esgrima Antigua.
>
> La Verdadera Destreza es un Arte para todo el mundo.
>
> Puck Curtis
> Master at Arms - San Jose Fencing Master's Program
>
> --
> “Measure what is measurable, and make measurable what is not so.”
> Galileo Galilei
>
> Spanish Swordplay
> http://www.destreza.us/
>
> Italian Swordplay
> http://www.viahup.com
>
>



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Spanish Swordplay
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Italian Swordplay
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#8160 From: Puck Curtis <puck.curtis@...>
Date: Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:33 pm
Subject: Free Iberian Greatsword Translation at Oakshotte web site
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Hola all,

Announcing the first English Translation of an Iberian greatsword text
available as a free PDF file!!

*Link to the PDF file:*
http://oakeshott.org/Article.html

From the Translators:
"*Dom Diogo Gomes de Figueiredo's work on the use of the montante, the
two-handed sword native to Spain and Portugal, is now available in English
translation. This is a relatively short work, but represents almost half of
the currently known material for this weapon from these two countries, and
is the primary source that Steve Hick and I have taught from at the last 3
WMAWs, and that Steve Hick and Matt Galas have taught from at recent HEMAC
events. The translation, transcription, and an article on the history and
context of this weapon's use are available as a free download from the
Oakeshott Institute at http://oakeshott.org/Article.html .*"

The greatsword used in Portugal and Spain, called the Montante, also has a
place in the Spanish Destreza tradition and was considered the symbol of the
fencing masters of Spain.  It is often used by bodyguards and elite units on
the battlefield charged with defending the standard.

*Maestro Eric Myers* recently completed his certification as an Italian
classical master at arms through the San Jose fencing master's program.  He
spent part of his childhood in Brazil and has taught the greatsword material
for the last 3 years at several events ranging in size from an SCA collegium
to the prestigious Western Martial Arts Workshop.

*Steve Hick* should be well known to any western martial arts researcher,
but for those who haven't encountered him or his work he is a considerable
talent with an almost supernatural ability to find lost fighting books in
the archives.

*What the book contains:*
*********************************************
The book presents pairs of 'rules' which can be thought of as sword-forms or
katas.  The first rule in the pair is a "simple rule" which defines the
theme for a drill.  The theme is taken to a new level of complexity with the
"composed rule" or the complex version of the drill.

For example:

*Simple Rule I:*  Demonstrates two cuts advancing and two cuts while
retreating.
*Composed Rule I*: Demonstrates six cuts strung together moving forward and
six cuts retreating.

The book contains 16 rules, each with a simple and composed version.
*********************************************

I cannot stress how much fun this material is to work through and how useful
it is to anyone who uses a greatsword on a regular basis.  While the manual
itself is beyond the SCA's period, the tradition and the manner of teaching
is older and very appropriate for the SCA's armored fighters.  I have no
doubt that learning the rules will improve the effectiveness of a martial
artist studying the greatsword.

Please feel free to forward a link to this article to anyone interested in
greatsword work.

Both Eric and Steve are good friends of mine and I would be happy to pass on
any feedback to the authors.

destreza@...

Puck Curtis
--
Master at Arms - San Jose Fencing Master's Program

“Measure what is measurable, and make measurable what is not so.”
Galileo Galilei

Spanish Swordplay
http://www.destreza.us/

Italian Swordplay
http://www.viahup.com


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#8159 From: "David Chessler" <chessler@...>
Date: Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:27 pm
Subject: Fwd: Re: [RN] Spanish Fencing Notation Part 2 - Footwork
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Subject: Re: [RN] Spanish Fencing Notation Part 2 - Footwork

Hola all,

I have added the third in a series of blog articles concerning the
Spanishtradition of fencing Science.  This
Spanish notation can be used to describe any tradition of fencing.

*Article 1 - Movements
http://www.puckandmary.com/blog_puck/2009/08/spanish-fencing-notation-part-1-vec\
tor-notation/

Article 2 - Footwork
http://www.puckandmary.com/blog_puck/2009/08/spanish-fencing-notation-part-2-foo\
twork-and-the-circle/

Article 3 - Distance
http://www.puckandmary.com/blog_puck/2009/08/spanish-fencing-notation-part-3-fig\
hting-distance/

*As always critical feedback is encouraged.

~P.


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#8158 From: Jared Kirby <jaredkirby@...>
Date: Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:00 pm
Subject: Special Pre-order for L'École Française: A Practical and Combative Guide to the French Small-sword
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Hello,

Martinez Academy of Arms is proud to announce that Anthony De Longis and
PALPABLE HIT PRODUCTIONS have produced our third instructional DVD set. This
newest addition to our instructional series is on the French School of
small-sword. "L'École Française: A Practical and Combative Guide to the French
Small-sword". Maestro Jeannette Acosta-Martínez teaches the material, with the
assistance of Maestro Ramón Martínez, Instructor Cecil Longino and advanced
student Mr. Alexander Petrovski.

This DVD set is designed to serve as a guide to comprehending the theory and
proper technical execution of the French School as it was practiced in the18th
century with the small-sword. For the first time ever on DVD the basics of
fencing with the small-sword are dealt with in a detailed and simple,
comprehensible form, for the modern swordsman training without a master.

For a limited time this three-Disk DVD set will be offered for $69.95 USD. This
special discount is only available for advanced orders and exclusively through
our website. L'École Française will be released in the beginning of November and
will then retail for $79.95 USD. For detailed information please go to our
website. http://www.martinez-destreza.com/lecolefrancaise.htm

Sincerely,
The Swordsman's Shop &
Martinez Academy of Arms
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#8157 From: John Sullins <j_sullins@...>
Date: Tue Oct 13, 2009 7:24 pm
Subject: Re: [CFML] Digest Number 1298
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Nice work Puck!

classicalfencing@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>
> 1.
>
>
>         Fwd: [RN] Italian Rapier Flowchart
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>     Hello all,
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>     I've put up a very brief blog post with an Italian rapier tactical
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>     '*finding the
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>
>     In classical Italian fencing you could create the same flowchart by
>     replacing the "gain" with a blade seizure which may trigger a
>     disengagement
>     in time.
>
>     *Italian Rapier Flowchart*:
>     http://www.puckandmary.com/blog_puck/2009/10/italian-rapier-flowchart/
>     <http://www.puckandmary.com/blog_puck/2009/10/italian-rapier-flowchart/>
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>     As always, critical feedback that can improve the presentation of the
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#8156 From: "David Chessler" <chessler@...>
Date: Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:38 am
Subject: Fwd: [RN] Italian Rapier Flowchart
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Subject: [RN] Italian Rapier Flowchart

Hello all,

I've put up a very brief blog post with an Italian rapier tactical flowchart
I created to teach the possible actions from the gain (or '*finding the
sword*' if you prefer).

In classical Italian fencing you could create the same flowchart by
replacing the "gain" with a blade seizure which may trigger a disengagement
in time.

*Italian Rapier Flowchart*:
http://www.puckandmary.com/blog_puck/2009/10/italian-rapier-flowchart/

As always, critical feedback that can improve the presentation of the
material is welcome.

~P.

--
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#8155 From: "David Chessler" <chessler@...>
Date: Fri Oct 2, 2009 6:48 pm
Subject: Fwd: [RN] Spanish Fencing Notation Part 4 - Hand Positions
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Hello all,

I have added the fourth in a series of blog articles based on Spanish
fencing as a science.

*Spanish Fencing Notation Part 4 - Hand Positions:*
http://www.puckandmary.com/blog_puck/2009/10/spanish-fencing-notation-part-4-the\
-position-of-the-hand/

Feel free to forward this to anyone who might be interested and as always
critical feedback is welcome.

Puck Curtis
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#8154 From: "David Chessler" <chessler@...>
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Subject: Fwd: [RN] Blog Article - Swetnam's Postulate
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Subject: [RN] Blog Article - Swetnam's Postulate

Hola all,

I have posted a new blog article concerning the interpretation of historical
fencing books:
http://www.puckandmary.com/blog_puck/2009/09/swetnams-postulate/

Feel free to forward this article to anyone who might be interested and
critical feedback is always welcome.

~P.

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#8153 From: "David Chessler" <chessler@...>
Date: Thu Sep 24, 2009 3:02 am
Subject: Fwd: [SCA-Rapier] Agrippa and Giganti
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Hola all,

You can get Agrippa in English here for a very reasonable $20:
http://italicapress.com/index311.html

"Agrippa's treatise is the fundamental text of Western swordsmanship. Just as
earlier swordsmanship can be better understood from Agrippa's critiques, so
too was his book the starting point for the rapier era. Every other treatise
of the early-modern period had to deal explicitly or implicitly with Agrippa's
startling transformation of the art and science of self-defense with the
sword. Likewise, all of the fundamental ideas that are still used today —
distance, time, line, blade opposition, counterattacks and countertime — are
expressed in this paradigm-shifting treatise. This is a work that should be on
the bookshelf of anyone interested in the history, practice or teaching of
fencing."

Watch Tom Leoni's Lulu.com site for Nicoletto Giganti coming very soon:
http://stores.lulu.com/tomleoniatyahoodotcom

"Completed and Coming Soon! Venetian Rapier By Tom Leoni
Venetian Rapier: Critical English translation of Giganti's 1606 rapier
curriculum, complete with the original illustrations--by Tom Leoni. This text
is designed to make Giganti's important rapier lessons accessible to students
of the Italian rapier and other individuals interested in Renaissance martial
arts. To this effect, Tom has added a historical note about martial arts in
Venice, a thorough technical introduction to make Giganti's words more
understandable even by novices, as well as a glossary of Giganti's rapier
terms. Stay tuned for forthcoming availability!"

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#8152 From: "David Chessler" <chessler@...>
Date: Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:56 am
Subject: Fwd: [RN] Agrippa translation
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Subject: [RN] Agrippa translation

I'm pleased to announce that my Agrippa translation is now ready for
ordering. This is the the fundamental rapier text, and I not only made
full use of my historical and fencing knowledge in this work, but also
did extensive research to try to place Agrippa and his work in the
proper sociocultural context. As Jeffrey Forgeng has stated:



“Mondschein has at last made available to English-speaking readers one
of the most important texts in the history of European martial arts.
Agrippa marks a turning point in the intellectual history of these
arts.… Mondschein’s introduction to his work helps the reader
understand Agrippa — and the martial practices themselves — as
pivotal agents in the evolving cultural and intellectual systems of the
sixteenth century.

Above all, Mondschein’s translation is refreshingly clean and
idiomatic, rendering the systematic clarity of the Italian original into
equally clear modern English — evidence of the author’s familiarity
with modern fencing and understanding of the physical realities that his
author is trying to express. Mondschein’s contextualization of his
topic points the way for future scholarly exploration, and his
translation will doubtless be valued by both students of cultural
history and practitioners of modern sword arts.”

The 234-page book, available in paperback and Kindle, includes a lengthy
introduction, glossary, notes, bibliography, 67 illustrations, and a
table of sword weights and balances from examples at the Met. The cost
is a mere $20, and all of my cut goes to keeping me fed so I can
translate Alfieri's spadone and Florius.

Please feel free to post this on other forums.

Yours,

Ken Mondschein
.........This is forwarded from Ken's anouncement on Swordforum.

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#8151 From: "David Chessler" <chessler@...>
Date: Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:44 pm
Subject: Fwd: [atlantianrapiernet] Re: Fwd: [SCA-Rapier] Fwd: Announcing an English Translation of Destreza Author don Francisco Antonio de Ettenhard
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Subject: [atlantianrapiernet] Re: Fwd: [SCA-Rapier] Fwd:  Announcing an
English Translation of Destreza Author don Francisco Antonio de Ettenhard

Hola all,

A friend pointed this out to me on another list.

I received my white scarf on September 29, 2001 which has my eight year
anniversary early next week.  Dona Gabriela and I have been studying the
Spanish material since the mid-90s.

My fencing master's certification is the traditional classical foil, epee, and
sabre as taught by the military schools of Italy with a master-to-pupil
lineage that can arguably be traced back to the rapier days.

While I do apply my experience to the historical weapon, it is important to me
that I don't misrepresent my credentials.  I have not taken an exam before a
board of maestri as a certification for Italian rapier, but rather the
descendant weapons from the classical period most closely related to the work
of Masaniello Parise.

Tom Leoni has an article on Parise here:
http://www.salvatorfabris.com/MasanielloParise.shtml

Upon meeting anyone, it is my hope that any titles or recognition will only be
temporary distraction that should immediately be replaced with a fair
evaluation of the quality of my teaching, fencing, research, and character.

Proper recognition for the Ettenhard translation should be directed to dona
Gabriela who is a Golden Age Spanish PhD candidate, a Fulbright scholar, and
has spent the last year doing intensive research (as well as this translation)
in Spain.  Her PhD dissertation is focused on Jeronimo Sanchez de Carranza and
her research and desire to share her work freely is the real engine that
drives this effort.

My part of this project is largely interpretive and presentational.  I read
the books to find the science and tradition of the fencing and then attempt to
explain it to martial artists.

~P.


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wrote:
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> I had the honor of studying with Puck and Mary two weeks ago at the DeKoven
Center.  Destreza is a sidesword technique incompatible with SCA heavy rapier
rules, but it was still certainly interesting for the Scadians in the class.
Everything from the geometry to the footwork and beyond is an edge-heavy
response to Italian rapier written with the snarkiness toward other styles
common to the majority of period texts.  Puck is an SCA white scarf of 20+
years, a certified master of Italian rapier through San Jose and with the
Tattershall School of Defense, and the primary historical fencing instructor
at the Davis Fencing Academy.
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#8150 From: Puck Curtis <puck.curtis@...>
Date: Mon Sep 21, 2009 3:42 pm
Subject: English Translation of Destreza Author don Francisco Antonio de Ettenhard
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Hello all,

First, we have finished migrating the Destreza Translation and Research
Project to a new web host. The domain name www.destreza.us will still work
as before, but any links that are relative to the www.plumes.org site should
be updated. As we continue to improve the site, you can expect new content
and surprises.

As some of you know, recently our Golden Age Spanish scholar, Mary Curtis,
was awarded a Fulbright Grant for research related to historical Spanish
fencing. During the past year in Spain, she worked not only towards the
completion of her PhD research but also on projects we felt would benefit
the entire historical fencing community.

The Destreza Translation and Research Project announces with great pleasure
an English translation of don Francisco Antonio de Ettenhard's work of 1675
Compendium of the Foundation and the True Art and Philosophy of Arms. In
addition to the translation we will also make available a transcription of
the work in the original Spanish.

Link to Translation & Transcription page:
http://www.destreza.us/translations/index.html

A phased roll-out of the English translation begins today with the First
Treatise concerning Geometry. The Second Treatise and the entire technical
section of the work will be presented chapter by chapter as each section of
the translation is revised and edited and the images are redrawn from the
originals. When each new portion of the text is released, we will provide a
new announcement.

This version of the translation is being provided at no charge as a PDF on
our website, but if there is public demand for a printed version, we may
make a special edition available through Lulu.com.

As with any work we provide, we encourage critical feedback that we can use
to improve our presentation of the material.

Finally, we owe a special debt of thanks to all the fencers and scholars of
Spain, both those from antiquity and those still studying today, for sharing
their tradition with us. Special recognition and thanks to Dr. Manuel Valle
who opened his home and especially his collection of books to us. We would
also like to thank Alberto Bomprezzi and our many friends training with the
Asociación Espańola de Esgrima Antigua.

La Verdadera Destreza es un Arte para todo el mundo.

Puck Curtis
Master at Arms - San Jose Fencing Master's Program

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Date: Fri Sep 18, 2009 12:47 pm
Subject: RE: [CFML] "The Dueling Sword"
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After 300 years of refinement in both sword design and technique,
swordsmanship reached the pinnacle of perfection in the mid 1800s,
culminating in the Golden Age of Fencing. During this age every gentleman
was expected to defend his honor, if necessary, by facing his antagonist on
the dueling field with epee de combat in hand. Now, for the very first time,
classical fencers today have a glimpse at how the epee lesson really was
taught during the classical era. La Marche's manual gives instructions
applicable to both practice in the Salle d'Armes and combat on the jue de
terrain, making it the most complete manual for the Dueling Sword written
during the classical era. Unlike many dry fencing manuals La Marche presents
his information in a interesting and reader friendly way. Brian House's
translation is essential reading for all serious classical epee instructors
and fencers.

Rez Johnson, M d'A

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President - United States Traditional Fencing Association
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  Blessings,
  Rez

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>> List Members,
>>
>> I want to inform the list members that the first book ever published on
the epee has now
>> been translated from French and is available from either Paldin Press.com
or
>> Amazon.com.
>>
>> The book was originally published in 1884 and was titled  "L'Epee". The
authors name
>> was Claude La Marche. It deals specifically with preparation for the duel
and for the first
>> time the reader can see the lessons and tactics that a student would be
trained in for
>> dueling.
>>
>> The English translation is titled "The Dueling Sword" and I am the
translator.
>>
>> Respectfully,
>>
>> Brian House

#8148 From: Brian House <housebrian@...>
Date: Thu Sep 17, 2009 4:19 pm
Subject: "The Dueling Sword"
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I want to inform the list members that the first book ever published on the epee
has now been translated from French and is available from either Paldin
Press.com or Amazon.com.



The book was originally published in 1884 and was titled  "L'Epee". The authors
name was Claude La Marche. It deals specifically with preparation for the duel
and for the first time the reader can see the lessons and tactics that a student
would be trained in for dueling.



The English translation is titled "The Dueling Sword" and I am the translator.



Respectfully,

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#8147 From: "stuydaze" <stuydaze@...>
Date: Wed Jul 8, 2009 9:01 pm
Subject: New Site up for Cavalier Attitude!
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Hi Guys,
I wanted to let everyone know that our new website,www.cavalierattitude.com,
though not quite finished, is up & running. We still offer the best & likely
biggest shoulder bag for historical fencers, the Rapier bag, and we've added a
line of t-shirts, with more on the way, as well as other cool products.

For those who've done business with us before, you know we had a glitch in out
old website/Paypal link that didn't calculate shipping, and so we promised that
we wouldn't charge shipping until our new site went up. Guess what? The new
site/Paypal link STILL isn't calculating the shipping!! This time we ARE gonna
fix it, but until we do, the same deal holds. Can't say how long the free
shipping will be on for. I'm guessing about a week or two.

Anyway, Come by our site, take a look at the products and the blog, and let us
know what you think!

Cheers,
Jeff Sauber
www.cavalierattitude.com

#8146 From: "ticeetal" <ticeetal@...>
Date: Thu Sep 17, 2009 4:15 am
Subject: OT-New Book on Pollaxe Combat Available
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Greetings All,

I am very pleased to announce the publication of the third book in the die
Schlachtschule armored combat series entitled "The Play of the Axe: Medieval
Pollaxe Combat" by Hugh T. Knight, Jr.

This book is intended to introduce the reader to authentic medieval pollaxe
techniques as taught by medieval fighting masters. Consisting of more than 200
pages with more than 380 photographs, the book begins with a general
introduction about medieval fight books and the nature of armored pollaxe
combat, and follows with a chapter dedicated to the strategic principles of
medieval combat as they apply to the pollaxe. The author then gives a detailed
chapter on how to train, including information about finding a teacher, training
without one, and the equipment necessary for training. Next, the book goes on to
explore detailed pollaxe techniques, starting with fundamentals such as stance,
footwork and guards, and moving logically through techniques to be used in a
wide variety of situations in pollaxe combat. Finally, it ends with an appendix
containing instructions for creating drills to use with any of the techniques in
the book, rules for free play in armor designed to recreate real combat, and a
detailed glossary. It is available in both a perfect-bound edition and a
spiral-bound edition designed to lay flat and open for use at practices.

This book will be of interest to anyone with an interest in knighthood, medieval
combat, history or martial arts in general.

"The Play of the Axe: Medieval Pollaxe Combat" has been published through
Lulu.com and is only available for internet purchase at this time:

www.stores.lulu.com/hughknight

www.schlachtschule.org

#8145 From: Jared Kirby <jaredkirby@...>
Date: Sun Sep 13, 2009 4:37 am
Subject: The AHF Grand Assault of Arms
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The Association for Historical Fencing is pleased to announce our annual Grand
Assault of Arms, to be held November 14th - 14th, 2009.


The tournament is structured so that all preliminary assaults will be fenced on
Saturday, November 14th and the final assaults to determine the winners per each
weapon category will take place on Sunday, November 15th.



Fencers may participate in any or all weapons categories. The tournament will
include:


* Foil
* Dueling Sabre
* Dueling Sword (épée)
* Single Stick


The event will also feature an overview of the schools of fencing and the wide
range of systems that existed in the 19th century at the height of the classical
fencing era.


Demonstration will include:


* Foil - Italian and French Schools
* Sabre - Italian and Spanish Schools
* Dueling Sword – French and Italian
* Cane fencing and self-defense
* Great Stick
* Singlestick
* French dagger fencing



For more details please visit the AHF web site: www.ahfi.org.
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#8144 From: "David Chessler" <chessler@...>
Date: Thu Sep 10, 2009 5:17 pm
Subject: Fwd: [HistoricalSwordsmanship] Manly Arts at Hampton NHS (MD) Sept 20th
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------ Original Message ------
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From: "victor_markland" <victor_markland@...>
To: HistoricalSwordsmanship@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HistoricalSwordsmanship] Manly Arts at Hampton NHS  (MD) Sept 20th

Come to Hampton National Historic Site on Sunday, September 20th from 10:00
a.m. - 4:00 p.m. for a special afternoon of “manly” sport!


   Hampton National Historic Site <http://www.nps.gov/hamp/index.htm>   is
Located in Towson Maryland



Manly Arts Day will feature a full day of Western Martial Arts with two
really fine instructors, Steve Huff
<http://artofcombat.org/Convention/BioSHuff.htm>   and Mark P. Donnelly
<http://artofcombat.org/Convention/BioMD.htm>  (oh and me too!)  We will
offer participatory demos running the gamut of 18th and 19th Cent.
Martial Arts. From bare-knuckle boxing to saber to small sword to naval
weapons to Bartitsu the "Gentlemanly Art of Self Defense" as practiced
by Sherlock Holmes.  ( and featured in the upcoming Movie
<http://sherlock-holmes-movie.warnerbros.com/>  ).

Hope you all will consider coming.  If you want to  simply talk about
Swordsmanship, tour the house ,watch, participate or bout a little we
would love to have you.  Part of the purpose is to get the regional
sword and WMA community together to look at ways to cooperate and
interact.



Here is the event website

Come to Hampton National Historic Site on Sunday, September 20th from 10:00
a.m. - 4:00 p.m. for a special afternoon of “manly” sport!



    Manly Arts Day
<http://www.nps.gov/hamp/parknews/manly-arts-day-at-hampton.htm>

http://www.nps.gov/hamp/parknews/manly-arts-day-at-hampton.htm





Hope you all can make it.



Victor

#8143 From: "David Chessler" <chessler@...>
Date: Tue Sep 8, 2009 7:34 pm
Subject: Fwd: [HistoricalSwordsmanship] Fiore a la Villa VI - Close Quarters Combat
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From: "stmartinsacademy" <stmartinsacademy@...>
To: HistoricalSwordsmanship@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HistoricalSwordsmanship] Fiore a la Villa VI - Close Quarters
Combat

Bob & Kristi Charron would like to invite you to the next event held at their
farm half an hour south of Madison, Wisconsin the second weekend in November.
(Nov 6th, 7th and 8th).  We have decided to call the series of events "a la
villa" (at the country estate).  Following several successful events, we have
received a great deal of positive feedback, and we have already received
verbal confirmations for this event from past attendees.

The advantage of having this property is that we can have a very small number
of guests and therefore provide better individual instruction and a more
intimate atmosphere.  If four people sign up, then four it is!  If we
experience high demand, we will run a second iteration of the event later in
the year.  This event will have a maximum of 10 attendees.

Classes will be held in the incredibly spacious, newly renovated barn.  The
classes will be held in our four-season, ten foot ceiling loft room that can
accommodate 10 individuals.  The entire floor will be covered in wrestling
mats for your safety and comfort.

The only reservation is a paid reservation, and attendance is limited, so it's
first-come, first-serve.  Please e-mail Bob at stmartinsacademy@...  to
make your reservation or to ask any questions you may have about the event.

The seminar fee is $200 before October 9th and $225 afterward (we need to plan
for and buy food), and includes:
• All meals Friday evening through Sunday lunch (please provide dietary
restrictions if any)
• Lodging at the Charron's farm house
• 3 hours of lecture presentations
• 15 hours of hands on instruction with a small group (More individual
attention!)
• Time set aside for answering individual questions for all attendees

All activities will take place on the farm.  Classes will begin with Friday
evening presentations, continue through an extended day on Saturday from 9
a.m. to 9 p.m., and conclude with instruction from 9 a.m. to noon on Sunday.
This will leave time for traveling home without having to miss any of the
instruction, and provides all the late-night talking we can stand.  Lectures
will provide much-needed rest in-between the hands-on sessions, and there will
be breaks for meals and play.

This particular seminar will focus on the wrestling and dagger sections of
Fiore's treatise with particular emphasis on integration and synthesis of
concepts into a real fight.  We will be working toward application and
integration in a free-flowing environment.

Students should have some familiarity with close quarter combat systems.  We
want to take this session to the next level.

Themes to be covered include:
• Safe entry into the fight
• Scientific progression of the fight according to Fiore
• Training sequences and chains
• Flow from one safe position to another
• Combat applications of these concepts

Lectures and demonstrations will include:
• First night preview and discussion of topics to be taught.
• Analysis and de-briefing on Fiore's system.

We suggest finding your best way to Madison, Wisconsin (we can pick you up at
the airport there).  If you choose to go through Milwaukee or Chicago
airports, we suggest car rental (and car-pooling with other attendees) to
arrive at the farm.  Driving directions and a map will be provided along with
other information in a packet provided to all attendees.




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#8142 From: "David Chessler" <chessler@...>
Date: Sat Sep 5, 2009 6:58 pm
Subject: Fwd: [SCA-Rapier] The Great Big Global HEMA Census
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   Received: Sat, 05 Sep 2009 12:00:56 PM EDT
   From: "rapierlynx" <DomhnallmF@...>
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   Subject: [SCA-Rapier] The Great Big Global HEMA Census



   I ran across this on Swordforum.com, and thought it might be of interest
     to this group.

     If SCA practices were included, it would really swell the numbers, and
     help establish that there is a marketplace for the gear we need.

     On the other hand, how would more competition affect the small
     businesses we depend on, like Gypsy Peddler, James the Just, Darkwood,
     etc.?

     So, it seems to me some discussion might be in order before going
     forward with this.

     Domhnall
     East


     Hi!

     My name is Roger Norling and I run a Hema resource site that you may
     already be familiar with; Hroarr.com.

     I am researching how many members each club has and would like to ask
     for your help in providing some short information. The email is sent to
     roughly 250-300 clubs all over the world and I have already received
     replies from quite a few.

     The reasons behind this survey are an attempt at building stronger
     arguments when discussing with manufacturers of protective gear, media
     and other martial arts groups. There are no commercial ties behind this
     email. Only a wish to make the Hema community stronger.

     Hopefully, we can interest companies like Allstar, Leon Paul and
     Negrini in designing fencing masks that suit our needs and companies
     like Brine to create gloves specifically for Hema.

     So, I would like to ask if you would be willing to provide this info?
     The results will of course be made public to all clubs that are
     interested in participating.

     The questions are as follows:

     1. How many chapters does your club have? In other words, how many
     locations do you teach at?

     2. How many members does your club or your chapters have? (Please only
     count members who have paid for membership!)

     3. How many classes do you teach per week?

     4. What classes do you teach? (longsword, messer, sword&buckler,
     rapier, spear, pole arms etc)

     That's it!

     I know that it can be difficult to count paying members, if you have
     another payment plan; single classes or monthly fees etc, but please try
     to come up with a reasonable number of how many are involved in your
     club. We don't need exact figures, but a good estimate.

     If you decide that you do not wish to participate in this survey, then
     I would be immensely grateful if you would let me know, so I can remove
     you from the survey and this emailing list!

     I have also been asked to introduce myself a little, so here goes: I
     am a member of Gothenburg Historical Fencing School in Sweden, although
     I am writing this email in no relation to my club, but rather as a
     personal initiative. I am quite passionate about Hema and try to
     contribute to the community in any way that I can.

     The Hroarr site is run on a non-profit basis, and is an attempt at
     helping the Hema community to grow and evolve. It has no direct relation
     to this survey, other than the fact that I am responsible for both. Very
     soon the Hroarr site will see substantial improvements that I hope will
     be of great use to the Hema community.

     I am looking forward to hearing from you all!

     Thanks and have a nice day!
     Roger
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     Hroarr.com - Resources for Historical European Martial Arts

     www.hroarr.com / www.hroarr.se

     contact: grimnir@...
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#8141 From: "David Chessler" <chessler@...>
Date: Tue Aug 25, 2009 6:53 pm
Subject: Fwd: Puck Curtis -- Spanish Fencing Notation Part 2 - Footwork
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From: Puck Curtis <puck.curtis@...>
To: westfence@yahoogroups.com,  RapierNet - Fencing in the SCA
<sca-rapier@...>, ansteorra-dons@...,
davisperiodfencing@yahoogroups.com, byfa@yahoogroups.com,
distreza@yahoogroups.com, teachingrapier@yahoogroups.com,
tattershall@yahoogroups.com, civic_guard@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [RN] Spanish Fencing Notation Part 2 - Footwork

Hola,

I have added the second in a series of blog articles concerning the Spanish
tradition of fencing Science.  This Spanish notation can be used to describe
any tradition of fencing.

*Blog Articles:*
http://www.puckandmary.com/blog_puck/
(In order to view only fencing articles, select '*Fencing*' from the top
menu.)

~P.

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“Measure what is measurable, and make measurable what is not so.”
Galileo Galilei

Spanish Swordplay
http://www.destreza.us/

Italian Swordplay
http://www.viahup.com


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#8140 From: "aiki_sword" <aiki_sword@...>
Date: Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:57 pm
Subject: The Sonoma State University Fencing Certificate class
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The Sonoma State University Fencing Certificate class will be starting this
Saturday at SSU in the dance room (PE 1) from 10am-1PM. It will go most
Saturdays until the first Saturday in December. There is a 2 unit option and a
much cheaper 1 unit option. Here are the details:
http://www.ssuexed.com/course.php?id=1361&sem=Fall&year=2009

Please contact me at : j_sullins@... for more info.

Cheers,
John Sullins
Military Mater at Arms
Director, SSU Fencing Masters Certificate Program
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Fencing is one of the oldest physical training disciplines. Practitioners
develop an exceptionally high level of mental and physical acuity in tactical
skills and rapid reflex responses. This course of study introduces the
historical roots of modern fencing and an in-depth analysis of the traditional
Italian school of fencing as well as bouting practice and preparation for
competitions. The program is intended for fencers of any level past beginner,
who either want to further develop their skills or want to work to earn
credentials that qualify them to coach and teach fencing. The knowledge and
skills students gain by taking the course include:


Mastery of fencing theory
Practice in the Italian fencing tradition
Familiarity with the history of fencing
Familiarity with alternative fencing venues such as theatric and historical
fencing.
Each day includes a theory and practice component. Required texts are available
at the SSU Bookstore. This course can be repeated for credit. For detailed
information about the program and about what is required to attain the levels of
certification in fencing, visit our website at
http://www.sonoma.edu/users/s/sullinsj/FMCP.html.

#8139 From: Jared Kirby <jaredkirby@...>
Date: Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:30 pm
Subject: ISMAC 2009 Pics
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Hello,

We have launched the image gallery for ISMAC 2009!  To see the galleries go to
http://artofcombat.org/Convention/pics2009.htm



There are over 1000 professional pics taken by Shirley Chung of Absolutely
Perilous in addition to the shots shared by participants. Both are on smugmug
which has all kinds of great features, such as voting for your favorite images
and adding comments.  You can even order quality prints and other items.

Enjoy!
Jared Kirby



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#8138 From: "gparsons729" <Gparsons729@...>
Date: Thu Jul 23, 2009 7:58 pm
Subject: Birmingham Classical Fencing Project
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Okay guys, we are trying to get a start here in Birmingham....So far we have 4
in attendance with 3 more expressing interest. At the moment we are going to
concentrate on Rapier and Italian foil. If you know of anyone interested in
helping us or dropping by for practice, send them our way.    GP

#8137 From: Kevin Murakoshi <kevin.murakoshi@...>
Date: Mon Jul 20, 2009 9:53 pm
Subject: Reminder: Classical Tournament in Davis, CA July 26, 2009
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Just a reminder, it's coming up! And American Fencers will be our vendor
at the event!

--Kevin Murakoshi


Davis Fencing Academy and Botta Secreta Productions Present:

A Classical Three Weapon Tournament

July 26, 2009
11:00 AM

Davis Fencing Academy
2121 2nd St C-103
Davis CA, 95618

Registration is $25.00

Three preliminary rounds - one round for each weapon

Come and join us!

Participate in a STANDARD three-weapon tournament format, that's
kind of like the old days but with a twist.

Traditional French and Italian Grips only.  Figure eight guards and
Italian guards with crossbars that extend past the bell are allowed.

We will be using the same rules as the Emperor Norton Challenge.
The rules can be found at:
http://bottasecretaproductions.ning.com/profiles/blogs/bsps-rules-for-march-1-20\
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The floor will be presided over by
Military Master at Arms, John Sullins,
Master at Arms, Puck Curtis,
and Provost at Arms Kevin Murakoshi

For more information the Tournament Committee can be reached at
kevin@...
<mailto:kevin@...>;


Hoping to see you all there,

Kevin Murakoshi
Provost at Arms
Epee Coach, UC Davis Fencing Club
Coach, Davis Fencing Academy

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