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Re: [CFML] Nadi

--- "Axel B. Corlu" <axelbcorlu@...> wrote:
>
> In other words, no copying or sharing for those who do not want to.
> Ever shared a book at university? Ever copied the whole thing? I did,
> and still do, without so-called "moral" problems. I guess my ethics
> are different. All support to you, Andrew Miller.
>
There's a difference between "sharing" something, and copying it for
the express intention of giving it to others without acknowledging the
legal owner.

Sharing something means that no additional copies are generated, and
the material which you purchased (the book) changes hands. However,
the document itself -- and there is a difference between "book" and
"document" -- cannot change hands. That is, the book you own is a
legal copy of the document (the words on the page). I can resell this,
gift it to someone, whatever... But copying the document itself, and
giving it to someone else, you violate copyright law -- that is, the
express legal authority for the owner of the document to make,
distribute and charge for copies of the document itself. Every book
you buy is a legal copy of a document -- but owning it, does not give
you any rights to the text on the page.

Now, under U.S. (and presumably International) copyright laws, one is
allowed to make copies of the document for certain purposes. One is
for personal use. That means, you can make a copy of the book for your
own use, especially if you wish to preserve the original. You may also
use it for educational purposes, copying specific sections that will be
used as a teaching aid. But, the simple copying and distribution of
the document is a very illegal thing to do. You can argue "morals" all
you want -- but copying and distributing the document free of charge
deprives the publisher, author and/or owner (if its a surviving
relative, or someone else who purchased the rights from the author) of
the document of just compensation. How would you like it if I walked
into your place of work and took your paycheck, and you never saw a
dime?

Violating copyright is theft, pure and simple. The document is the
property of someone else. The book you own, is a legal copy of that
document, and you ONLY have the rights to the ownership of the book
itself.


-Brian D. Schenck

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Fri Apr 25, 2003 12:56 pm

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Well over a month ago, I ordered a copy of Aldo Nadi's "On Fencing" from Jackson's Books, a small publishing company easily found on the net via a search...
Andrew Miller
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Apr 25, 2003
4:11 am

... Good luck, and happy reading. I'm sure we'd all be glad to hear your opinions of Nadi's book. However, if in your haste you skipped the first couple of...
Kim Moser
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Apr 25, 2003
4:19 am

In other words, no copying or sharing for those who do not want to. Ever shared a book at university? Ever copied the whole thing? I did, and still do, without...
Axel B. Corlu
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Apr 25, 2003
12:28 pm

... There's a difference between "sharing" something, and copying it for the express intention of giving it to others without acknowledging the legal owner. ...
Brian D. Schenck
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Apr 25, 2003
10:59 pm

Jeez, lay off the guy. He was trying to make a friendly gesture, however legal or illegal it may be. I feel safe in saying most people have heard of copyright...
Douglas M. Griffin
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Apr 26, 2003
2:47 am

My apologies to Brian Schenk. The letter I previously sent, quoted below, was intended as a response to all the email this Nadi issue has elicited. It was not...
Douglas M. Griffin
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Apr 26, 2003
5:25 am

Typically, posting copyrighted data to the web is considered publishing it world-wide, hence copyright infringement. You can make "fair use" photocopies to...
Kylan Jones-Huffman
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Apr 25, 2003
10:59 pm

I have cheerfully copied books with expired copyrights, and have hesitantly copied out-of-print books. Copying a new book (even if the words are old) is theft...
Bob Lyle
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Apr 25, 2003
11:00 pm

Folks, Please continue any future discussion about copyright laws in private email, not on this list. -- Kim Moser, List Administrator Classical Fencing...
Kim Moser
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Apr 26, 2003
1:14 pm

Ladies and gentlemen, Just a reminder that in order to reserve your space in the first week-long historical rapier camp of modern times at the discount rate, ...
Antone Blair
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Apr 26, 2003
1:15 pm

... You say it's cheap enough, and I got mine through a source listed on the list's home page quickly enough and cheaply enough. Let's not take money from...
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