I think you should have dealt sooner with the subversive threats from  John
Pate, Alan Boys, Andrew Firmin & Jo Wotsit and who were obviously communist,
Jewish, black, homosexuals, lesbians, female, gypsies, trade unionists,
Jehovah Witnesses and/or Deitrich Bonhoeffer (surely "bent on taking over
the group for their own self-aggrandisement?" - Ed)


-----Original Message-----
From: clarets@yahoogroups.com [mailto:clarets@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf
Of Mik Stevens
Sent: 17 September 2005 01:20
To: clarets@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [clarets] silence!



Oh, you lot, get off my group.  I still run this and can ban any of you at
any moment, without reason or warning.  Not that this is is a warning, or a
reason for that matter.

I know how Hitler felt in his bunker.  5 years of world domination, then you
just want a quiet time whilst it crumbles around you, but no, loads of
people keep turning up to spoil the party.

bugger

mik




German Commentator - 4:53 pm 6th October 2001
"Letzte chance fur die Englander Mannschaft.
So, Beckham, Beckham, und ... Oh, nay, nay, nay,...
nay, nay, nay, nein, nein,... nay, nay."





>From: "Ant Heald" <ajheald@...>
>Reply-To: clarets@yahoogroups.com
>To: <clarets@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: RE: [clarets] silence!
>Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 17:54:31 +0100
>
>Good to see that while, as you point out, most things online change, you
>haven't.
>
>
>
>I'd forgotten how much I enjoyed this stuff.
>
>
>
>Sniff.
>
>
>
>   _____
>
>From: clarets@yahoogroups.com [mailto:clarets@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
>Rob Slade
>Sent: 16 September 2005 00:25
>To: clarets@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: RE: [clarets] silence!
>
>
>
>Too much amber nectar Eddie.  This group stopped 5 years ago when John
>moved
>everyone to his new group burnleyfc. And the Burnleyfc group stopped 2
>years
>ago when John moved everyone to his new group Claretnblue.
>
>But as several(hundred)people have pointed out the real action is on the
>claretsmad message board where there are several thousand members and
>approx
>several thousand messages per minute.  All things must pass of course.  My
>(new)theory on the fall of all web social things is that as soon as people
>get to know each other then such divisive things as social class/status,
>education, age etc kick in.  In fact even recently status was discussed in
>depth and everyone started revealing their age (as well). All the nutters
>are strictly controlled by the Tony the Grouch who recently suspended the
>registration of new members and will probably suspend me after reading
>this.
>Although perhaps to avert this I should say that I think his contribution
>to
>all things Burnley, his articles, match reports etc are second to none.
>
>Statistically all egroups (like all social groups) can be shown to be in
>permanent decline. A 12 month moving average on Claretnblue shows an annual
>decline from 160 in Sep04 to 125 in Sep04 so unless John starts another
>group Claretnblue will last exactly 3 more years (see attached graph)
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: clarets@yahoogroups.com [mailto:clarets@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf
>Of Eddie
>Sent: 14 September 2005 22:51
>To: Claretnblue@yahoogroups.com; clarets@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [clarets] silence! (
>
>
>Haloooooah, anyone home?
>
>:-}
>
>Eddie
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They're not happy here, so what!  Although some are relieved that the bubble has
finally burst.

Eddie

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Mik Stevens
   To: clarets@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 11:18 PM
   Subject: Re: [clarets] silence!



   A lot happier after winning the cricket.  :-)

   How are they taking it at the WACA?

   See we're losing again at Plymouth.

   mik


   German Commentator - 4:53 pm 6th October 2001
   "Letzte chance fur die Englander Mannschaft.
   So, Beckham, Beckham, und ... Oh, nay, nay, nay,...
   nay, nay, nay, nein, nein,... nay, nay."





   >From: "Eddie" <bechta@...>
   >Reply-To: clarets@yahoogroups.com
   >To: <clarets@yahoogroups.com>
   >Subject: Re: [clarets] silence!
   >Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 19:51:34 +0800
   >
   >HI Mik,
   >
   >How are you.....:-)
   >
   >Eddie
   >   ----- Original Message -----
   >   From: Mik Stevens
   >   To: clarets@yahoogroups.com
   >   Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 8:19 AM
   >   Subject: RE: [clarets] silence!
   >
   >
   >
   >   Oh, you lot, get off my group.  I still run this and can ban any of you
   >at
   >   any moment, without reason or warning.  Not that this is is a warning,
   >or a
   >   reason for that matter.
   >
   >   I know how Hitler felt in his bunker.  5 years of world domination, then
   >you
   >   just want a quiet time whilst it crumbles around you, but no, loads of
   >   people keep turning up to spoil the party.
   >
   >   bugger
   >
   >   mik
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >   German Commentator - 4:53 pm 6th October 2001
   >   "Letzte chance fur die Englander Mannschaft.
   >   So, Beckham, Beckham, und ... Oh, nay, nay, nay,...
   >   nay, nay, nay, nein, nein,... nay, nay."
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >   >From: "Ant Heald" <ajheald@...>
   >   >Reply-To: clarets@yahoogroups.com
   >   >To: <clarets@yahoogroups.com>
   >   >Subject: RE: [clarets] silence!
   >   >Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 17:54:31 +0100
   >   >
   >   >Good to see that while, as you point out, most things online change,
   >you
   >   >haven't.
   >   >
   >   >
   >   >
   >   >I'd forgotten how much I enjoyed this stuff.
   >   >
   >   >
   >   >
   >   >Sniff.
   >   >
   >   >
   >   >
   >   >   _____
   >   >
   >   >From: clarets@yahoogroups.com [mailto:clarets@yahoogroups.com] On
   >Behalf Of
   >   >Rob Slade
   >   >Sent: 16 September 2005 00:25
   >   >To: clarets@yahoogroups.com
   >   >Subject: RE: [clarets] silence!
   >   >
   >   >
   >   >
   >   >Too much amber nectar Eddie.  This group stopped 5 years ago when John
   >   >moved
   >   >everyone to his new group burnleyfc. And the Burnleyfc group stopped 2
   >   >years
   >   >ago when John moved everyone to his new group Claretnblue.
   >   >
   >   >But as several(hundred)people have pointed out the real action is on
   >the
   >   >claretsmad message board where there are several thousand members and
   >   >approx
   >   >several thousand messages per minute.  All things must pass of course.
   >My
   >   >(new)theory on the fall of all web social things is that as soon as
   >people
   >   >get to know each other then such divisive things as social
   >class/status,
   >   >education, age etc kick in.  In fact even recently status was discussed
   >in
   >   >depth and everyone started revealing their age (as well). All the
   >nutters
   >   >are strictly controlled by the Tony the Grouch who recently suspended
   >the
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   >   >this.
   >   >Although perhaps to avert this I should say that I think his
   >contribution
   >   >to
   >   >all things Burnley, his articles, match reports etc are second to none.
   >   >
   >   >Statistically all egroups (like all social groups) can be shown to be
   >in
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   >annual
   >   >decline from 160 in Sep04 to 125 in Sep04 so unless John starts another
   >   >group Claretnblue will last exactly 3 more years (see attached graph)
   >   >
   >   >-----Original Message-----
   >   >From: clarets@yahoogroups.com [mailto:clarets@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf
   >   >Of Eddie
   >   >Sent: 14 September 2005 22:51
   >   >To: Claretnblue@yahoogroups.com; clarets@yahoogroups.com
   >   >Subject: [clarets] silence! (
   >   >
   >   >
   >   >Haloooooah, anyone home?
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Excellent, Michael, a good starting point for the revival of the original
and best claret debating group.

So, er... without doing any research at all, I have this kind of gut
feeling, or reliable intellectual intuition, that the director responsible
for the new stands (Clive Wotsit) had this project dumped on him and that he
had no knowledge about stands (etc) and that he just got the standard amount
of government grant for erecting the standard bunch of seats with a roof,
designed by th e only available architect/engineer/contractor (all of which
is price fixed and decided in advance).  The spec (view, sound etc)  is
standard as well and usually it's the most number of seats for the least
cost anyway.  The spectacular view of the moors and the interesting sun in
the eyes (/sunset) was an accidental bonus.

More to the point is Barry's choice of manager.  How he could choose Steve
Cotterill, virtually inarticulate and unproven as a manager and as a player
against Brian Flynn all the opposite (articular, proven as a manager and a
player) is beyond belief.   And if you want to bring in the  complete
absence of money to excuse Mr Cotterill's abysmal performance then such
absence was known in advance and Brian Flynn has the best results ever for
no money (not to mention his contacts).  Inarticulate? I heard his interview
today on Radio Lancs and what he said was virtually meaningless (in both
language and football terms).

So replace Cotterill with Flynn and re the acoustics I suggest hanging
millions of  milk bottle tops from the roof of the stands to funnel the
sound and also make the crowd look bigger (albeit a bit upside down and
fragmented). Milk bottle tops?  OK, something similar.


-----Original Message-----
From: clarets@yahoogroups.com [mailto:clarets@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf
Of Michael Horne
Sent: 17 September 2005 04:32
To: clarets@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [clarets] Clarets Group in Football Related Post Shock!


I didn't realise but having looked at the Clarets Mad website, it seems its
10 years since they demolished the Longside.

What a tremendous decision that was.  We lost a great atmosphere and gained
two white elephants - one of them still isn't finished for gawds sake, we've
spent 10 years trying to pay off the debt (and now we don't even own them),
they were designed by someone who had clearly never been to a football match
given the way that what little atmosphere is generated is funnelled up and
out of the ground.  You get wet if it rains and you're in the "covered"
lower tier.  Prices have trebled and I now get fined for turning up to watch
on the day.

They should demolish the Cricket Field stand and replace it with terracing.
Give the Longside to the away fans where we won't hear them if they make any
noise.

Mick





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A lot happier after winning the cricket.  :-)

How are they taking it at the WACA?

See we're losing again at Plymouth.

mik


German Commentator - 4:53 pm 6th October 2001
"Letzte chance fur die Englander Mannschaft.
So, Beckham, Beckham, und ... Oh, nay, nay, nay,...
nay, nay, nay, nein, nein,... nay, nay."





>From: "Eddie" <bechta@...>
>Reply-To: clarets@yahoogroups.com
>To: <clarets@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [clarets] silence!
>Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 19:51:34 +0800
>
>HI Mik,
>
>How are you.....:-)
>
>Eddie
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Mik Stevens
>   To: clarets@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 8:19 AM
>   Subject: RE: [clarets] silence!
>
>
>
>   Oh, you lot, get off my group.  I still run this and can ban any of you
>at
>   any moment, without reason or warning.  Not that this is is a warning,
>or a
>   reason for that matter.
>
>   I know how Hitler felt in his bunker.  5 years of world domination, then
>you
>   just want a quiet time whilst it crumbles around you, but no, loads of
>   people keep turning up to spoil the party.
>
>   bugger
>
>   mik
>
>
>
>
>   German Commentator - 4:53 pm 6th October 2001
>   "Letzte chance fur die Englander Mannschaft.
>   So, Beckham, Beckham, und ... Oh, nay, nay, nay,...
>   nay, nay, nay, nein, nein,... nay, nay."
>
>
>
>
>
>   >From: "Ant Heald" <ajheald@...>
>   >Reply-To: clarets@yahoogroups.com
>   >To: <clarets@yahoogroups.com>
>   >Subject: RE: [clarets] silence!
>   >Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 17:54:31 +0100
>   >
>   >Good to see that while, as you point out, most things online change,
>you
>   >haven't.
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >I'd forgotten how much I enjoyed this stuff.
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >Sniff.
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >   _____
>   >
>   >From: clarets@yahoogroups.com [mailto:clarets@yahoogroups.com] On
>Behalf Of
>   >Rob Slade
>   >Sent: 16 September 2005 00:25
>   >To: clarets@yahoogroups.com
>   >Subject: RE: [clarets] silence!
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >Too much amber nectar Eddie.  This group stopped 5 years ago when John
>   >moved
>   >everyone to his new group burnleyfc. And the Burnleyfc group stopped 2
>   >years
>   >ago when John moved everyone to his new group Claretnblue.
>   >
>   >But as several(hundred)people have pointed out the real action is on
>the
>   >claretsmad message board where there are several thousand members and
>   >approx
>   >several thousand messages per minute.  All things must pass of course.
>My
>   >(new)theory on the fall of all web social things is that as soon as
>people
>   >get to know each other then such divisive things as social
>class/status,
>   >education, age etc kick in.  In fact even recently status was discussed
>in
>   >depth and everyone started revealing their age (as well). All the
>nutters
>   >are strictly controlled by the Tony the Grouch who recently suspended
>the
>   >registration of new members and will probably suspend me after reading
>   >this.
>   >Although perhaps to avert this I should say that I think his
>contribution
>   >to
>   >all things Burnley, his articles, match reports etc are second to none.
>   >
>   >Statistically all egroups (like all social groups) can be shown to be
>in
>   >permanent decline. A 12 month moving average on Claretnblue shows an
>annual
>   >decline from 160 in Sep04 to 125 in Sep04 so unless John starts another
>   >group Claretnblue will last exactly 3 more years (see attached graph)
>   >
>   >-----Original Message-----
>   >From: clarets@yahoogroups.com [mailto:clarets@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf
>   >Of Eddie
>   >Sent: 14 September 2005 22:51
>   >To: Claretnblue@yahoogroups.com; clarets@yahoogroups.com
>   >Subject: [clarets] silence! (
>   >
>   >
>   >Haloooooah, anyone home?
>   >
>   >:-}
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HI Mik,

How are you.....:-)

Eddie
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Mik Stevens
   To: clarets@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 8:19 AM
   Subject: RE: [clarets] silence!



   Oh, you lot, get off my group.  I still run this and can ban any of you at
   any moment, without reason or warning.  Not that this is is a warning, or a
   reason for that matter.

   I know how Hitler felt in his bunker.  5 years of world domination, then you
   just want a quiet time whilst it crumbles around you, but no, loads of
   people keep turning up to spoil the party.

   bugger

   mik




   German Commentator - 4:53 pm 6th October 2001
   "Letzte chance fur die Englander Mannschaft.
   So, Beckham, Beckham, und ... Oh, nay, nay, nay,...
   nay, nay, nay, nein, nein,... nay, nay."





   >From: "Ant Heald" <ajheald@...>
   >Reply-To: clarets@yahoogroups.com
   >To: <clarets@yahoogroups.com>
   >Subject: RE: [clarets] silence!
   >Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 17:54:31 +0100
   >
   >Good to see that while, as you point out, most things online change, you
   >haven't.
   >
   >
   >
   >I'd forgotten how much I enjoyed this stuff.
   >
   >
   >
   >Sniff.
   >
   >
   >
   >   _____
   >
   >From: clarets@yahoogroups.com [mailto:clarets@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
   >Rob Slade
   >Sent: 16 September 2005 00:25
   >To: clarets@yahoogroups.com
   >Subject: RE: [clarets] silence!
   >
   >
   >
   >Too much amber nectar Eddie.  This group stopped 5 years ago when John
   >moved
   >everyone to his new group burnleyfc. And the Burnleyfc group stopped 2
   >years
   >ago when John moved everyone to his new group Claretnblue.
   >
   >But as several(hundred)people have pointed out the real action is on the
   >claretsmad message board where there are several thousand members and
   >approx
   >several thousand messages per minute.  All things must pass of course.  My
   >(new)theory on the fall of all web social things is that as soon as people
   >get to know each other then such divisive things as social class/status,
   >education, age etc kick in.  In fact even recently status was discussed in
   >depth and everyone started revealing their age (as well). All the nutters
   >are strictly controlled by the Tony the Grouch who recently suspended the
   >registration of new members and will probably suspend me after reading
   >this.
   >Although perhaps to avert this I should say that I think his contribution
   >to
   >all things Burnley, his articles, match reports etc are second to none.
   >
   >Statistically all egroups (like all social groups) can be shown to be in
   >permanent decline. A 12 month moving average on Claretnblue shows an annual
   >decline from 160 in Sep04 to 125 in Sep04 so unless John starts another
   >group Claretnblue will last exactly 3 more years (see attached graph)
   >
   >-----Original Message-----
   >From: clarets@yahoogroups.com [mailto:clarets@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf
   >Of Eddie
   >Sent: 14 September 2005 22:51
   >To: Claretnblue@yahoogroups.com; clarets@yahoogroups.com
   >Subject: [clarets] silence! (
   >
   >
   >Haloooooah, anyone home?
   >
   >:-}
   >
   >Eddie
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I didn't realise but having looked at the Clarets Mad website, it seems its
10 years since they demolished the Longside.

What a tremendous decision that was.  We lost a great atmosphere and gained
two white elephants - one of them still isn't finished for gawds sake, we've
spent 10 years trying to pay off the debt (and now we don't even own them),
they were designed by someone who had clearly never been to a football match
given the way that what little atmosphere is generated is funnelled up and
out of the ground.  You get wet if it rains and you're in the "covered"
lower tier.  Prices have trebled and I now get fined for turning up to watch
on the day.

They should demolish the Cricket Field stand and replace it with terracing.
Give the Longside to the away fans where we won't hear them if they make any
noise.

Mick

Oh, you lot, get off my group.  I still run this and can ban any of you at
any moment, without reason or warning.  Not that this is is a warning, or a
reason for that matter.

I know how Hitler felt in his bunker.  5 years of world domination, then you
just want a quiet time whilst it crumbles around you, but no, loads of
people keep turning up to spoil the party.

bugger

mik




German Commentator - 4:53 pm 6th October 2001
"Letzte chance fur die Englander Mannschaft.
So, Beckham, Beckham, und ... Oh, nay, nay, nay,...
nay, nay, nay, nein, nein,... nay, nay."





>From: "Ant Heald" <ajheald@...>
>Reply-To: clarets@yahoogroups.com
>To: <clarets@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: RE: [clarets] silence!
>Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 17:54:31 +0100
>
>Good to see that while, as you point out, most things online change, you
>haven't.
>
>
>
>I'd forgotten how much I enjoyed this stuff.
>
>
>
>Sniff.
>
>
>
>   _____
>
>From: clarets@yahoogroups.com [mailto:clarets@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
>Rob Slade
>Sent: 16 September 2005 00:25
>To: clarets@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: RE: [clarets] silence!
>
>
>
>Too much amber nectar Eddie.  This group stopped 5 years ago when John
>moved
>everyone to his new group burnleyfc. And the Burnleyfc group stopped 2
>years
>ago when John moved everyone to his new group Claretnblue.
>
>But as several(hundred)people have pointed out the real action is on the
>claretsmad message board where there are several thousand members and
>approx
>several thousand messages per minute.  All things must pass of course.  My
>(new)theory on the fall of all web social things is that as soon as people
>get to know each other then such divisive things as social class/status,
>education, age etc kick in.  In fact even recently status was discussed in
>depth and everyone started revealing their age (as well). All the nutters
>are strictly controlled by the Tony the Grouch who recently suspended the
>registration of new members and will probably suspend me after reading
>this.
>Although perhaps to avert this I should say that I think his contribution
>to
>all things Burnley, his articles, match reports etc are second to none.
>
>Statistically all egroups (like all social groups) can be shown to be in
>permanent decline. A 12 month moving average on Claretnblue shows an annual
>decline from 160 in Sep04 to 125 in Sep04 so unless John starts another
>group Claretnblue will last exactly 3 more years (see attached graph)
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: clarets@yahoogroups.com [mailto:clarets@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf
>Of Eddie
>Sent: 14 September 2005 22:51
>To: Claretnblue@yahoogroups.com; clarets@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [clarets] silence! (
>
>
>Haloooooah, anyone home?
>
>:-}
>
>Eddie
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><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Claret&w1=World+soccer&w2=Claret&c=2&s=
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Good to see that while, as you point out, most things online change, you
haven't.



I'd forgotten how much I enjoyed this stuff.



Sniff.



   _____

From: clarets@yahoogroups.com [mailto:clarets@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Rob Slade
Sent: 16 September 2005 00:25
To: clarets@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [clarets] silence!



Too much amber nectar Eddie.  This group stopped 5 years ago when John moved
everyone to his new group burnleyfc. And the Burnleyfc group stopped 2 years
ago when John moved everyone to his new group Claretnblue.

But as several(hundred)people have pointed out the real action is on the
claretsmad message board where there are several thousand members and approx
several thousand messages per minute.  All things must pass of course.  My
(new)theory on the fall of all web social things is that as soon as people
get to know each other then such divisive things as social class/status,
education, age etc kick in.  In fact even recently status was discussed in
depth and everyone started revealing their age (as well). All the nutters
are strictly controlled by the Tony the Grouch who recently suspended the
registration of new members and will probably suspend me after reading this.
Although perhaps to avert this I should say that I think his contribution to
all things Burnley, his articles, match reports etc are second to none.

Statistically all egroups (like all social groups) can be shown to be in
permanent decline. A 12 month moving average on Claretnblue shows an annual
decline from 160 in Sep04 to 125 in Sep04 so unless John starts another
group Claretnblue will last exactly 3 more years (see attached graph)

-----Original Message-----
From: clarets@yahoogroups.com [mailto:clarets@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf
Of Eddie
Sent: 14 September 2005 22:51
To: Claretnblue@yahoogroups.com; clarets@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [clarets] silence! (


Haloooooah, anyone home?

:-}

Eddie

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Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the clarets
group.

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Too much amber nectar Eddie.  This group stopped 5 years ago when John moved
everyone to his new group burnleyfc. And the Burnleyfc group stopped 2 years
ago when John moved everyone to his new group Claretnblue.

But as several(hundred)people have pointed out the real action is on the
claretsmad message board where there are several thousand members and approx
several thousand messages per minute.  All things must pass of course.  My
(new)theory on the fall of all web social things is that as soon as people
get to know each other then such divisive things as social class/status,
education, age etc kick in.  In fact even recently status was discussed in
depth and everyone started revealing their age (as well). All the nutters
are strictly controlled by the Tony the Grouch who recently suspended the
registration of new members and will probably suspend me after reading this.
Although perhaps to avert this I should say that I think his contribution to
all things Burnley, his articles, match reports etc are second to none.

Statistically all egroups (like all social groups) can be shown to be in
permanent decline. A 12 month moving average on Claretnblue shows an annual
decline from 160 in Sep04 to 125 in Sep04 so unless John starts another
group Claretnblue will last exactly 3 more years (see attached graph)

-----Original Message-----
From: clarets@yahoogroups.com [mailto:clarets@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf
Of Eddie
Sent: 14 September 2005 22:51
To: Claretnblue@yahoogroups.com; clarets@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [clarets] silence! (


Haloooooah, anyone home?

:-}

Eddie

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Haloooooah, anyone home?

:-}

Eddie

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This concept is now taking off. If anybody reading this has a site
related to the Clarets who would like to be considered for inclusion
in the'Family' please contact me and we will consider your application

All we ask is you put the following wording on your main page in
whatever font size you want

'Your Site Name'...Part of the Family of Clarets

You must also be willing to put up the links of the other sites in the
'Family' separate from other Clarets Board Links as advised by myself

Many thanks for your attention

TurfmanPhil- Features Promotions 'The Longside'

http://www.sportnetwork.net/main/s37.htm

Please note there are now some additions and minor changes as follows:

The Family of Clarets

The 'Family of Clarets' concept is to promote each other's
sites,forums and chatclubs and try and ensure our individual
memberships are aware of the other clubs within the 'Family'. It is
hoped we will then have the same membership on each site all of which
have something different to offer. From time to time,we might have
some friendly rivalry across the sites eg messageboard quizes and
challenges so come and join the fun!

The Longside: http://www.thelongside.co.uk

A great messageboard with increasing activity all the time.
Find all the latest news and features here.

Burnley Banter: http://uk.msnusers.com/BurnleyBanter

This is TMP's chatclub with a small messageboard. With lots of photos
of both town & club, past & present and you can upload your own. We
have regular organised chats about the Clarets during non-match days
and in close season

Sexy Clarets: http://uk.msnusers.com/SexyClarets

A great chatclub for those that cant attend matches, listen on match
days to ClaretsWorld radio and chat about the game in the chatclub.
Very busy during games.

Clarets.net: http://www.yabbers.com/phpbb/index.php?mforum=mykeane

Another great messageboard to keep abreast of rumours and all things
Clarets!

TM Longsiders: http://www.turfmoorlongsiders.com/

Great little place for those of you that like some singing on the
Longside and how to make it better. Join the Turf Moor Longsiders or
Ultras at our games.
Visit this site and look at their forum.

Up the Clarets.com: http://www.uptheclarets.com/

This is Al's place and an excellent site for Clarets photographs and
memorabilia. He also keeps us all up to date on the lastest club
gossip & rumours.

Lots of other features too!

Martin's Forum: http://forums.cjb.net/martinmjt.html

Its a place for you to have a good chat with Clarets and to have some
fun but its more besides where all sorts of stuff can be debated


Please join ALL these clubs and sites,they all have something
different to offer and if you join these you will feel part of 'The
Family of Clarets'

I am away from Mon 8th and will be back in the office on
Mon 22nd August. If the matter is urgent please call Louise Goldswain or Kalina
Lazarova on 0207 247 2323 x224,  email:
LouiseG@... or KalinaL@...

Regards

Paul Marsland

Me and Solo have just completed a brand new gallery on the re-
development of the Longside and Bee Hole End, it's interesting to see
it all develop...

Regards Al :-)

www.uptheclarets.com

In conjunction with Clarets Mad we are running a Fantasy League this season
entitled Fantasy Mad. It is the brainchild of Daz Arnone, a member of both
the Trust and West Midlands Clarets.



The cost of joining the league is £10 per entry, half of which will go to
the Trust and half in prize money to the top placed teams at the end of the
season as well as Manager of the Month awards from September to April.



There are three easy steps to join the league, you will need to register for
our league, register your team in the game and then use one of three methods
to pay us.



Visit www.darnone.co.uk <http://www.darnone.co.uk/>  to register for our
league. You need to fill in the larger right hand box and specify by which
of the three methods you wish to pay. On subsequent visits you can enter
your email address twice in the left hand box to check the status of your
registration.



You will then need to register a team in the Fantasy League game itself run
via the Premier League’s official web site which is at
http://fantasy.premierleague.com <http://fantasy.premierleague.com/>  and
once we have received your payment you will be sent a code to allow you to
register that team in the Fantasy Mad League.



You can pay by cheque, online banking or via Paypal although there will be
an extra 50p charge for using Paypal.



By cheque: Please make your cheque payable to Clarets Trust and send it to
the Trust address which is PO Box 1960, Sports Desk, Burnley Express, Bull
Street, Burnley, BB11 1DP.



By online banking. Please forward your payment to the Trust account which
is: Sort Code: 20-15-70 and Account Number: 60365610.



By Paypal: Follow the link when you register.





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Communications & Media



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The Longside: http://www.sportnetwork.net/main/s37.htm

A great messageboard with increasing activity all the time. The most
friendliest and fairest messageboard I know in which to discuss our
favourite team without fear of deletion&censorship

Burnley Banter: http://uk.msnusers.com/BurnleyBanter

This is my own chatclub with a small messageboard. We also have lots
of photos of both town&club,past&present and you can upload your
own.We have regular organised chats about the Clarets during non-match
days and in close season

Sexy Clarets: http://uk.msnusers.com/SexyClarets

A great chatclub for those that cant attend matches, We listen on
match days to ClaretsWorld radio and chat about the game in the
chatclub

Clarets.net: http://www.yabbers.com/phpbb/index.php?mforum=mykeane

Another great messageboard to keep abreast of rumours and all things
Clarets!

TM Longsiders: http://www.yabbers.com/phpbb/index.
php?mforum=tmlongsiders

Great little place for those of you that like some singing on the
Longside and how to make it better. Also read about the Longside
Ultras


Please join ALL these clubs they all have something different to offer
and if you join these you will feel part of 'The Family of Clarets'

Do you collect them?

I've just put 141 of them up in a gallery on www.uptheclarets.com

I'm trying to collect an archive of them!

See the links on our front page... Also updates on Parkin & Lunt

Regards Al :-)

www.uptheclarets.com

Hey guys,

Just wondering if you could check out the Clarets.net and if you
haven't , vote in the PotS poll. Currently it's a dead-heat between
Cahill and McGreal!

Thanks.

http://www.clarets.net

Hi, I'm back online at last with my  Burnley FC website. After breaking
my leg last summer I gave the site up, but hopefully it's here to stay
this time.


Kind Regards Alan

PS. THE NEW URL is....

www.uptheclarets.com

Hi

I am using a new service to keep in contact with my friends. Use the link below
to become part of my address book. In the future I will be able to see any
changes in your contact details.

http://www.bebo.com/fr1/11977017a295798707b176934816c675172987d20

Thanks.

Bhurdwaz

3


You can expect my application this week


Steve Dole




-----Original Message-----
From: Clarets Trust [mailto:claretstrust@...]
Sent: 04 February 2005 00:40
To: clarets@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [clarets] Trust Survey Update




Thanks very much to those of you who are not Clarets Trust members who
replied to our one question survey last week but could I please ask those
who didn’t if they would consider spending just a few seconds in replying to
us, it would be so helpful for the Trust and our support of the Club.



The question is: Having not joined Clarets Trust would you please choose one
of the options below that best describes why not.

1. Have not heard of it
2. Have heard of it but not sure what it is
3. Have heard of it but not got round to joining yet
4. Have heard of it and think I know what it is about but don't agree with
it
5. Cannot afford it
6. Don't think it will make a difference
7. Other (please specify)



Could you please email your answer to info@...



To date most of the replies have suggested 3 and 5.



3. If you do wish to join, membership forms can be downloaded from the Trust
website at www.claretstrust.co.uk <http://www.claretstrust.co.uk/>  and are
also available at the Burnley Express and at the club’s ticket office – you
will also be able to join at the meeting directly after the Leeds game in
the Foundation Bar. The meeting will start around 2:30 and both members and
non-members will be very welcome.



5. Membership costs £10 adults, £7.50 over 60s and £5 under 16s.



Again thanks very much for your time

Clarets Trust Steering Group





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Thanks very much to those of you who are not Clarets Trust members who
replied to our one question survey last week but could I please ask those
who didn’t if they would consider spending just a few seconds in replying to
us, it would be so helpful for the Trust and our support of the Club.



The question is: Having not joined Clarets Trust would you please choose one
of the options below that best describes why not.

1. Have not heard of it
2. Have heard of it but not sure what it is
3. Have heard of it but not got round to joining yet
4. Have heard of it and think I know what it is about but don't agree with
it
5. Cannot afford it
6. Don't think it will make a difference
7. Other (please specify)



Could you please email your answer to info@...



To date most of the replies have suggested 3 and 5.



3. If you do wish to join, membership forms can be downloaded from the Trust
website at www.claretstrust.co.uk <http://www.claretstrust.co.uk/>  and are
also available at the Burnley Express and at the club’s ticket office – you
will also be able to join at the meeting directly after the Leeds game in
the Foundation Bar. The meeting will start around 2:30 and both members and
non-members will be very welcome.



5. Membership costs £10 adults, £7.50 over 60s and £5 under 16s.



Again thanks very much for your time

Clarets Trust Steering Group





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Have not heard of it.
Tom Kelly

If you have not joined Clarets Trust could we ask you to spend just a minute
answering the one question survey and emailing that to us.



The question is: Having not joined Clarets Trust would you please choose one
of the options below that best describes why not.

1. Have not heard of it
2. Have heard of it but not sure what it is
3. Have heard of it but not got round to joining yet
4. Have heard of it and think I know what it is about but don't agree with
it
5. Cannot afford it
6. Don't think it will make a difference
7. Other (please specify)



Could you please email your answer to info@...



Thanks for your time

Clarets Trust Steering Group





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Speak up, Clarets - you will be heard!

You are a Claret. Only a supporter, you might say. You pay your money every
week and give your support but what do you get in return? Should you expect
anything except a game of football? Do you feel the club should be more
accountable to its supporters? Does a particular issue make you angry?

Well now is your chance to have a say and make your voice heard as the
Clarets Trust will be holding an Open Meeting in the Foundation bar on
Saturday 5th February after the home game against Leeds United.

The bar will be open and the meeting is open to non-members as well as
members. It will give supporters the chance to put forward their views on
the football club and help to decide Trust policy on issues as varied as
ticket refunds, season tickets and the recent ground sale and leaseback for
example.

The Trust steering group will give an update on progress so far and put
forward plans for the coming year. How are we going to raise money and what
are we going to do with it? Will we invest in the youth scheme? Will we try
to buy the ground back? As a truly democratic organisation, the membership
will decide.

Supporters' Trusts up and down the country are making a difference to their
clubs. Exeter City is run by their supporters' trust and they held the
corporate might of Manchester United to a draw. Yet strangely enough,
Shareholders United, the Manchester United Trust could eventually end up
running their club as they already have approaching 20% of the shareholding.

So come along and have your say and if enough people feel the same way then
by joining together perhaps Burnley supporters can make a difference at our
club. The chairman, board and playing staff at Burnley are doing their very
best for the club so isn't it time the supporters made a more positive
contribution?





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Thanks Tony will do immediately
Cheers Sean

Clarets Mad <claretsmad@...> wrote:
Sean,

Visit the Trust web site at www.claretstrust.co.uk and you will be able to
download the application form from there.

Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: Sean [mailto:magiclard@...]
Sent: 20 November 2004 12:50
To: clarets@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [clarets] Red at Brighton


Am not going to Brighton but would like to go to the racecourse ground are
there busses available-and do you have details so I can join the clarets
trust please Tony ta Sean
Tony Scholes <tony.scholes@...> wrote:Can I ask those who are going
to Brighton on Saturday, if at all possible,
to wear red in support of Wrexham. If you are not going then you might
consider going to the Racecourse (in Claret & Blue) for the Wrexham v
Bristol City game and the Fans United Day.



They are e latest club to now find themselves close to the end because of an
owner, Alex Hamilton, who has no interest in football but is asset stripping
and now wants the club to go into liquidation so he can sell the ground as
commercial land for building on.



Please spare a thought for them, please support them in any way you can.



And if I may take this opportunity to promote the Trust at Burnley, please
consider joining - a strong Trust can only make our club a great deal less
likely to fall into the wrong hands like this.



Tony



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Sean,

Visit the Trust web site at www.claretstrust.co.uk and you will be able to
download the application form from there.

Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: Sean [mailto:magiclard@...]
Sent: 20 November 2004 12:50
To: clarets@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [clarets] Red at Brighton


Am not going to Brighton but would like to go to the racecourse ground are
there busses available-and do you have details so I can join the clarets
trust please Tony ta Sean
Tony Scholes <tony.scholes@...> wrote:Can I ask those who are going
to Brighton on Saturday, if at all possible,
to wear red in support of Wrexham. If you are not going then you might
consider going to the Racecourse (in Claret & Blue) for the Wrexham v
Bristol City game and the Fans United Day.



They are e latest club to now find themselves close to the end because of an
owner, Alex Hamilton, who has no interest in football but is asset stripping
and now wants the club to go into liquidation so he can sell the ground as
commercial land for building on.



Please spare a thought for them, please support them in any way you can.



And if I may take this opportunity to promote the Trust at Burnley, please
consider joining - a strong Trust can only make our club a great deal less
likely to fall into the wrong hands like this.



Tony



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Am not going to Brighton but would like to go to the racecourse ground are there
busses available-and do you have details so I can join the clarets trust please
Tony ta Sean
Tony Scholes <tony.scholes@...> wrote:Can I ask those who are going to
Brighton on Saturday, if at all possible,
to wear red in support of Wrexham. If you are not going then you might
consider going to the Racecourse (in Claret & Blue) for the Wrexham v
Bristol City game and the Fans United Day.



They are e latest club to now find themselves close to the end because of an
owner, Alex Hamilton, who has no interest in football but is asset stripping
and now wants the club to go into liquidation so he can sell the ground as
commercial land for building on.



Please spare a thought for them, please support them in any way you can.



And if I may take this opportunity to promote the Trust at Burnley, please
consider joining - a strong Trust can only make our club a great deal less
likely to fall into the wrong hands like this.



Tony



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