No I have not suggested anything to the club and will not do so. I just made a suggestion in light of the events. The unavoidable fact is that alcohol does make a difference to some peoples behaviour. He (Martin) obviously cannot see past his own which whether good or not, deserved the reply he got from me. Is everyones memories so bad as to not recall that alcohol was banned from grounds because of violent events? I drink myself but personally would not miss its presence from grounds while the current mess is sorted.
All is calm on the surface, giving lie to the chaos that reigns beneath.
Dear All, I, like the overwhelming majority of football fans across the country, have been saddened tremendously by the events off the pitch this weekend. Does...
I have spoken to the police and the club this week, nothing I can report at the moment though. We launched "I Support Burnley" on Clarets Mad at the start of...
Hear Hear Tony We need to strike while the iron is hot. A public meeting very very soon with or without the clubs patronisation is required to address the...
In a message dated 12/11/2002 4:08:21 AM Pacific Standard Time, ... Just about the most ridiculous comment I've heard in my life so far. How bloody knee-jerk...
Obviously youre a glop head mate who caqnt go without for a DAY. Beer plus yobs equals violence. And we will be banned from drinking it. What are you going...
'Beer plus yobs equals violence' If I remember my O Level maths I'd suggest that yobs minus beer still equals yobs. If you think that a beer ban will turn Turf...
I don't think ale is the problem. The problem is Burberry-wearing teenagers who behave like packs of dogs and suffer delusions that they are the most ...
Michael Short
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Dec 11, 2002 12:30 pm
I dont see myself as making a knee jerk reaction of any sort. Im just making a suggestion which has been subjected to ridicule and rudeness. Anyone got a...
That's out of order. Martin is a friend of mine and I know for a fact can go without drink for a day. I will be having a drink before the game but I can assure...
No I have not suggested anything to the club and will not do so. I just made a suggestion in light of the events. The unavoidable fact is that alcohol does...
Good of you to be able to make comments about Martin although I presume you have never met him. He happens to be a good friend of mine, is a decent Burnley...
There was indeed a thread on CLarets Mad re: where to drink and we advised on the cricket club. In light of the events of Saturday the thread has now been...
Sorry mush, but I didn't suggest a 'Burberry boy' was responsible for an act of murder/manslaughter. I was talking about the general problem of matchday ...
Michael Short
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Dec 11, 2002 3:07 pm
actually, sitting on the outside reading the posts, whilst the suggestion of a drinks ban is ill-considered, it was simply that - a suggestion. I'm not sure it...
Ian Jagger
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Dec 11, 2002 3:27 pm
The pubs in the town centre of Burnley could be described as many things but friendly is not one of them. They are like a battlefield every weekend. It is...
I havn't read all the press but there seems to be a lot of presumptions going on here. Was perpetrator of attack a Burnley fan - had he ever been on the turf? ...
Graham Veevers
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Dec 11, 2002 5:49 pm
Thanks for the responses-firstly I would like to apologise if I offended anyone-all I think Im trying to say is that in two cities Coventry and Glasgow,...
Yes those who have been keeping up to date with this via the local press certainly do. ... I havn't read all the press but there seems to be a lot of...
Agree Tony, and they have been since the '60's when I regularly drove buses through the town centre. Eddie ... From: Tony Scholes To: clarets@yahoogroups.com ...
Much has been written here re ale bans. I think we need to look at things in context. Here in Oz we are treated like common criminals at turnstiles, having...
Hey great way to solve violence, Lets all argue about stuff... ... From: Steve Dole To: clarets@yahoogroups.com Sent: 11/12/02 13:56 Subject: RE: [clarets]...
Sadly, laws are made to be broken. The unfortunate Nottingham lad was only 17. Isn't 18 the min age for pubs? Had he abided by the law this may never have...
I've said on the other group, this really isn't the palce to perform the trial. I've talked to someone in Yates' at the time and I'd place the blame very much...
The minimum age for pubs (at certain times, according to the licensing laws of the establishment) is zero. The minimum age for drinking is 18. Yates' is on the...
As a supporter on the 70s I was on the longside when someone was knifed and had a bottle dropped on me by man utd supporters from the top of the bee hole end....
I'm not sure the comparsion to US pro sports is particularly illuminating. The concept of large numbers of fans travelling to away games on a regular basis...
Thanks Mik, from posts I assumed he and the incident was in the bar. Regardless, I still feel terrible about the whole thing. Eddie ... From: Mik Stevens To:...
Would it make any difference to peoples perception of the incident if, for example, this had been a pre arranged fight or if he had gone into Yates with a...