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Re: Re: [clarets] Tragic Event

No I have not suggested anything to the club and will not do so. I just made a suggestion in light of the events.  The unavoidable fact is that alcohol does make a difference to some peoples behaviour.  He (Martin) obviously cannot see past his own which whether good or not, deserved the reply he got from me.  Is everyones memories so bad as to not recall that alcohol was banned from grounds because of violent events?  I drink myself but personally would not miss its presence from grounds while the current mess is sorted.

 



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Wed Dec 11, 2002 2:21 pm

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Dear All, I, like the overwhelming majority of football fans across the country, have been saddened tremendously by the events off the pitch this weekend. Does...
Wells Graeme MMUk
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Dec 10, 2002
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I have spoken to the police and the club this week, nothing I can report at the moment though. We launched "I Support Burnley" on Clarets Mad at the start of...
Tony Scholes
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Dec 10, 2002
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Hear Hear Tony We need to strike while the iron is hot. A public meeting very very soon with or without the clubs patronisation is required to address the...
sean scholfield
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Dec 11, 2002
12:07 pm

In a message dated 12/11/2002 4:08:21 AM Pacific Standard Time, ... Just about the most ridiculous comment I've heard in my life so far. How bloody knee-jerk...
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Dec 11, 2002
12:15 pm

Obviously youre a glop head mate who caqnt go without for a DAY. Beer plus yobs equals violence. And we will be banned from drinking it. What are you going...
sean scholfield
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Dec 11, 2002
12:19 pm

'Beer plus yobs equals violence' If I remember my O Level maths I'd suggest that yobs minus beer still equals yobs. If you think that a beer ban will turn Turf...
Steve Dole
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Dec 11, 2002
1:57 pm

I don't think ale is the problem. The problem is Burberry-wearing teenagers who behave like packs of dogs and suffer delusions that they are the most ...
Michael Short
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Dec 11, 2002
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I dont see myself as making a knee jerk reaction of any sort. Im just making a suggestion which has been subjected to ridicule and rudeness. Anyone got a...
sean scholfield
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Dec 11, 2002
2:27 pm

That's out of order. Martin is a friend of mine and I know for a fact can go without drink for a day. I will be having a drink before the game but I can assure...
Tony Scholes
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Dec 11, 2002
12:47 pm

No I have not suggested anything to the club and will not do so. I just made a suggestion in light of the events. The unavoidable fact is that alcohol does...
sean scholfield
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Dec 11, 2002
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In a message dated 12/11/2002 4:20:58 AM Pacific Standard Time, ... Well done, the second most ridiculous comment heard during my lifetime....
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Dec 11, 2002
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Good of you to be able to make comments about Martin although I presume you have never met him. He happens to be a good friend of mine, is a decent Burnley...
Tony Scholes
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Dec 11, 2002
2:28 pm

There was indeed a thread on CLarets Mad re: where to drink and we advised on the cricket club. In light of the events of Saturday the thread has now been...
Tony Scholes
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Dec 11, 2002
2:32 pm

Sorry mush, but I didn't suggest a 'Burberry boy' was responsible for an act of murder/manslaughter. I was talking about the general problem of matchday ...
Michael Short
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Dec 11, 2002
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actually, sitting on the outside reading the posts, whilst the suggestion of a drinks ban is ill-considered, it was simply that - a suggestion. I'm not sure it...
Ian Jagger
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Dec 11, 2002
3:27 pm

The pubs in the town centre of Burnley could be described as many things but friendly is not one of them. They are like a battlefield every weekend. It is...
Tony Scholes
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Dec 11, 2002
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I havn't read all the press but there seems to be a lot of presumptions going on here. Was perpetrator of attack a Burnley fan - had he ever been on the turf? ...
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Dec 11, 2002
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Thanks for the responses-firstly I would like to apologise if I offended anyone-all I think Im trying to say is that in two cities Coventry and Glasgow,...
sean scholfield
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Dec 12, 2002
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Yes those who have been keeping up to date with this via the local press certainly do. ... I havn't read all the press but there seems to be a lot of...
Tony Scholes
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Dec 11, 2002
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Agree Tony, and they have been since the '60's when I regularly drove buses through the town centre. Eddie ... From: Tony Scholes To: clarets@yahoogroups.com ...
Eddie
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Dec 11, 2002
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Much has been written here re ale bans. I think we need to look at things in context. Here in Oz we are treated like common criminals at turnstiles, having...
Eddie
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Dec 11, 2002
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Hey great way to solve violence, Lets all argue about stuff... ... From: Steve Dole To: clarets@yahoogroups.com Sent: 11/12/02 13:56 Subject: RE: [clarets]...
Patrick Goss
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Dec 12, 2002
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RE: [clarets] Tragic EventI've always felt that discussion is the best way to resolve and avoid violence. Steve ... From: Patrick Goss...
Steve Dole
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Dec 12, 2002
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Sadly, laws are made to be broken. The unfortunate Nottingham lad was only 17. Isn't 18 the min age for pubs? Had he abided by the law this may never have...
Eddie
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Dec 12, 2002
9:51 pm

I've said on the other group, this really isn't the palce to perform the trial. I've talked to someone in Yates' at the time and I'd place the blame very much...
Mik Stevens
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Dec 12, 2002
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The minimum age for pubs (at certain times, according to the licensing laws of the establishment) is zero. The minimum age for drinking is 18. Yates' is on the...
Mik Stevens
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Dec 13, 2002
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As a supporter on the 70s I was on the longside when someone was knifed and had a bottle dropped on me by man utd supporters from the top of the bee hole end....
Andrew Campbell
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Dec 13, 2002
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I'm not sure the comparsion to US pro sports is particularly illuminating. The concept of large numbers of fans travelling to away games on a regular basis...
Colin Morris <colin-m...
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Dec 13, 2002
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Thanks Mik, from posts I assumed he and the incident was in the bar. Regardless, I still feel terrible about the whole thing. Eddie ... From: Mik Stevens To:...
Eddie
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Dec 13, 2002
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Would it make any difference to peoples perception of the incident if, for example, this had been a pre arranged fight or if he had gone into Yates with a...
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Dec 15, 2002
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