... Buses are vehicles too, but in a bus lane, the bus passes all the cars in the car lane on his left, and most certainly doesn't "just sit in the queue" ...
929
Kenneth O'Brien
kob@...
Feb 27, 2000 12:56 pm
... Good point, and why bus lanes on city streets are a bad idea. Vehicle type specific lanes in typical intersection density environments are unworkable. One...
930
John Vance
jvance@...
Feb 27, 2000 1:38 pm
... Like Hell that's off topic! Go. See. Report. Get flamed ;-) John Vance...
931
John Vance
jvance@...
Feb 27, 2000 1:48 pm
... No, different game. Bus lanes are full-size lanes, and buses are awfully big. Drivers will look for traffic in the bus lane and merge properly into it...
932
Kenneth O'Brien
kob@...
Feb 27, 2000 1:56 pm
... No, not strong enough... Bus lanes are bad ideas for all the same reasons. The awkward feel of the narrow bikelane space will probably make the bad...
933
webmaster@...
Feb 27, 1999 1:57 pm
... This "proper route" would be shut anyway, because without a bike lane, some cars will stand on the outer left and some on the outer right. ... You don't...
934
Kenneth O'Brien
kob@...
Feb 27, 2000 2:06 pm
... Nobody is suggesting anybody should "swerve" anywhere.... but just as it is ok for motorists to move somewhat into the oncoming lane to overtake a...
935
Wade Eide
eide@...
Feb 27, 2000 2:00 pm
The enormous advantage that normal streets have over bikelaned streets is that they offer a choice of lane position and even a choice of lanes to cyclists,...
936
Kenneth O'Brien
kob@...
Feb 27, 2000 2:10 pm
... There is a diffrence between waving and wandering - and maintaining a consistent line, and then early and carefully looking, yielding, negotiating, and...
937
Cyclepete@...
Feb 27, 2000 2:34 pm
In a message dated 2/27/00 7:50:45 AM Eastern Standard Time, ... queue" ... In Philadelphia, bus lanes have caused problems by letting buses pass traffic on...
938
Schubley@...
Feb 27, 2000 4:45 pm
Hi Demetri, ... swing through his state riding a bicycle<< I don't recall that post -- I don't think it was on Chainguard, and I don't get Touring or...
939
Schubley@...
Feb 27, 2000 5:08 pm
Hi guys, ... Jim, there will be numerous U.S. lumenaries there. Jody Newman, Andy Clark, Jeff Olsen, Jon Orcutt, Bill Wilkinson, John Fegan, Cara Seiderman,...
940
webmaster@...
Feb 27, 2000 5:16 pm
... The left lane is full of oncoming cars, and btw, cars in the line may turn left. Even if the left lane is free for a moment, what do you do when a car is...
941
Wade Eide
eide@...
Feb 27, 2000 5:30 pm
... centre ... Sorry, I guess that I wasn't clear. I was refering to the left lane on a 4-lane arterial (two lanes, plus a parking lane in each direction.) I...
942
Kenneth O'Brien
kob@...
Feb 27, 2000 8:11 pm
... Not really 'nuff said, because it doesn't mean anything. Lateral merges without preparation, looking or yielding to traffic in that new line so close such...
943
Hugh Smith
hmsmith@...
Feb 27, 2000 8:47 pm
I like Ken's way of thinking here. When a bicycle is going faster than surrounding traffic, then wave and wander all you want. You may even get motorists to...
944
John Forester
forester@...
Feb 27, 2000 8:28 pm
This talk of the superiority of technology is rather optimistic. So Kleinschmidt reports that the Boeing 777 can take off and land itself. My colleagues of...
945
John Forester
forester@...
Feb 27, 2000 8:50 pm
I was about to write a piece about cyclists who run red lights until I read that Dan Gutierrez had beaten me to it. I agree wholeheartedly. Furthermore, the...
946
John Forester
forester@...
Feb 27, 2000 9:48 pm
I seriously considered traveling to the very first Velo Mondial, in Bremen, allowing me to ride across France, Belgium, Holland, and into Germany on the way. I...
947
John Vance
jvance@...
Feb 28, 2000 12:39 am
... Don't forget Governor Gary Johnson of New Mexico. He is a triathlete who competed in last year's Ironman. He rode across the state as part of his first...
948
Schubley@...
Feb 28, 2000 2:36 am
Hi all, John Forester wrote: <<look at the list that Schubert has given of those Americans probably attending. I don't know whether his list is just of those...
949
Jeremy Parker
JeremyParker@...
Feb 28, 2000 12:45 pm
hi, Greetings from London, where it's 1974 in bikeway years. I hope to go to Velo Mondial, in much the same mood as anyone else on this list. Actually, things...
950
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pgmbarrie@...
Feb 28, 2000 2:36 pm
I also am planning a bicycle tour in sept of this year to Ampsterdam-but I am landing in Zurick and will be riding the Rhine river through 13 cities and 4 ...
951
P.M. Summer
pmsummer@...
Feb 28, 2000 2:45 pm
The best thing about Velo Mondial is seeeing all the European bicycle advocates standing around smoking cigarettes during the breaks. ... ...
952
Tom Revay
trlist@...
Feb 28, 2000 3:13 pm
... titled "Why Toddlers Cry in Supermarkets" ... but this is one excellent piece of writing. That's easy. "Because they can!". Same reason as why a dog ......
953
Tom Revay
trlist@...
Feb 28, 2000 3:43 pm
... You're right, of course. She's clearly of the opinion that she needn't learn about vehicular cycling because when comes to cycling, there's just nothing...
954
John Forester
forester@...
Feb 28, 2000 5:09 pm
Bob Morgan says that he has never found a problem with cycling in bike lanes, which he has experienced in Milwaukee. In particular, he has never seen a...
955
Pete Rhodes
ptr@...
Feb 28, 2000 5:32 pm
... are ... Random quote seen in a random newsgroup: [Speaking about road safety] "They have bike lanes in Holland. It is actually safe to ride there." ...
956
Whitney Turner
wturner@...
Feb 28, 2000 2:23 pm
OK, for the past few years I have been bowing to the currently popular Deity of On-Road Facilities, aka Bike Lanes. I have been wavering between fully ...
957
Bob Sutterfield
Bob@...
Feb 28, 2000 6:21 pm
... (Why are there always friends in the car when this happens? Is there some sort of nuclear reaction when the testosterone concentration reaches critical...
