... Freeway ramps are often a messy, congested area. There is usually a high density of traffic signals, turning traffic, a guarantee of getting stuck for at...
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Lauren Cooper
cyclemedia@...
Apr 2, 2001 3:42 pm
<<< I come off a stop sign (turning right) onto a very narrow and choppy street with parked cars on the right and a long line of stopped traffic at a light......
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Wilson, Mike
mwilson@...
Apr 2, 2001 6:01 pm
It is interesting to read Ken OBrien denying Whitney Turner's report of 4 incidents per month of avoiding being hit from behind. There ARE regional ...
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Whitney Turner
wturner@...
Apr 2, 2001 6:39 pm
I had a 2-day email backlog, and must have missed Ken dismissing my experience here in Fort Lauderdale. BAD KEN!!! DON'T DO THAT!!! I don't disbelieve some of...
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Don Burrell
dburrell@...
Apr 2, 2001 8:30 pm
I was surprised at the volume of comments over equipment (mirrors) vs. concept (the greater chance that the accidents experienced by VC-practicing cyclists are...
4685
rwwalker@...
Apr 2, 2001 8:37 pm
I wonder who many of these various close call type incidents would occur regardless of whether the user is biking or driving. I had one today, a lady in a...
4686
Wilson, Mike
mwilson@...
Apr 2, 2001 9:50 pm
Now I have done it. In the wake of Bob Wollek's death, the Porsche mailing list now has suggestions of bike lanes and wrong-way riding. So I reponded that...
4687
CRKJLAW@...
Apr 2, 2001 10:41 pm
Here's the British study: http://www.lesberries.co.uk/cycling/redway.htm John Allen has a number of studies: http://www.bikexprt.com/bicycle/index.htm Chris...
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John Forester
forester@...
Apr 2, 2001 11:17 pm
Mike Wilson wants statistics on the relative accident rates of normal streets, when normal streets are bikelaned, and for sidepaths. The first thing is to get...
4689
Kenneth O'Brien
kob@...
Apr 2, 2001 11:32 pm
... Not lucky at all. I devote my attention where it is needed when it is needed, anticipating and looking for _likely_ conditions to which I have a logical...
4690
Kenneth O'Brien
kob@...
Apr 2, 2001 11:39 pm
... There are no existing studies that show one way or another with respect to bikelanes (Wrong way riding is another story, however, if anybody tries to push...
4691
Kenneth O'Brien
kob@...
Apr 2, 2001 11:53 pm
... I continue to believe there is no place in the US where ~25 moderate length car trips puts you in danger of being rear ended 4 times while lining up behind...
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Greene, Ken H.
kgreene2@...
Apr 3, 2001 2:59 am
It seems to me that those posters who discount the use of mirrors on the bike usually do so because of studies they cite which show overwhelmingly that the...
4693
Trevor Bourget
trevorspoke@...
Apr 3, 2001 3:51 am
... Others suggest that using mirrors may not only be unproductive, but counter-productive. For example, instead of paying attention to things in front of you...
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Bob Morgan
robtwmor@...
Apr 3, 2001 4:00 am
As one who has actually been hit from the rear while bicycling, I'd like to weigh in on this matter. Ken O'Brien claims luck has nothing to do with his never...
4695
Robert J. Matter
rjmatter@...
Apr 3, 2001 5:29 am
I am with Bob Morgan. I like to know what is going on around me. Sometimes a police car will be approaching with flashing lights but no siren. Sometimes a...
4696
Robert J. Matter
rjmatter@...
Apr 3, 2001 7:28 am
... Subject: SF bike lane success makes case for more lanes Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 13:34:47 +0800 From: Jon Winston <jon@...> Reply-To:...
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John Forester
forester@...
Apr 3, 2001 3:11 pm
Here's Bob Matter: "I like to know what is going on around me. Sometimes a police car will be approaching with flashing lights but no siren. Sometimes a...
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Greene, Ken H.
kgreene2@...
Apr 3, 2001 3:39 pm
... From: Trevor Bourget [mailto:trevorspoke@...] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 10:54 PM To: chainguard@yahoogroups.com; 'chainguard@yahoogroups.com' ...
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John Vance
jvance@...
Apr 3, 2001 4:35 pm
... Driving on two-lane roads is a different matter: as I ... metal, I ... tucked in ... inches than ... I'm afraid you're very much in error on this point....
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John Forester
forester@...
Apr 3, 2001 5:46 pm
Here's another bit of wishful thinking by Ken Greene. He expects remain safe in his car during a head-on collision. Here are his words: "Driving on two-lane...
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Bill Volk
bvolk@...
Apr 3, 2001 5:50 pm
I like having a mirror ... but I use it maybe once or twice every 20 miles of riding. It's a convenience when doing a lane change to see what the situation is...
4702
Greene, Ken H.
kgreene2@...
Apr 3, 2001 6:18 pm
... From: John Forester [mailto:forester@...] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 12:31 PM To: chainguard@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [CG] Mirror use...
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Whitney Turner
wturner@...
Apr 3, 2001 6:42 pm
As I said in a previous post, this is like no other place I have driven. As I listened to the radio traffic report this morning while taking my daughter to...
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John Forester
forester@...
Apr 3, 2001 7:19 pm
Well, at least Ken Greene is trying to sort out the meaning of what he wrote. His claim is that he is frightened when riding his bicycle in traffic, that that...
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Greene, Ken H.
kgreene2@...
Apr 3, 2001 7:50 pm
... From: John Forester [mailto:forester@...] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 2:19 PM To: chainguard@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [CG] Mirror use...
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Peter Rosenfeld
prosenfe@...
Apr 3, 2001 8:18 pm
... I use mine quite a bit. In heavy city traffic, I can quickly glance in back to look for openings for a lane change while still keeping my attention focused...
4707
Peter Rosenfeld
prosenfe@...
Apr 3, 2001 8:30 pm
... But these feelings are just due to a lack of familiarity with the situation. Somebody who has never used an escalator might find it very frightening the ...
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Don Burrell
dburrell@...
Apr 3, 2001 8:57 pm
John Forester said: "However, just suppose that you spend 10% of the time looking behind. As a crude estimate, you would miss 90% of those cars that are ...
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Greene, Ken H.
kgreene2@...
Apr 3, 2001 9:06 pm
... From: Peter Rosenfeld [mailto:prosenfe@...] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 3:30 PM To: chainguard@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [CG] Mirror use...
