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chainguard@yahoogroup...
Dec 1, 2008 8:03 am
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... That's right, as long as the infrastructure is consistent with the lessons our education programs are teaching. ... Do you remember who it was who said,...
First, the list is "padded" by making the same point repeatedly in different contexts without adding any new concepts.I interpret all this as an attempt by my...
Bob Bayn
bob.bayn@...
Dec 1, 2008 6:28 pm
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... In order for that to happen, our infrastructure designers have to be aware of, and actually believe in, our education programs. But I've come across quite...
... Harumph. How many years experience have agencies had with bike lane markings, only to still misapply them? And with Toole rewriting the AASHTO Guide, I...
"It's a dichotomy between what our educators teach, and what our infrastructure designers believe, about cyclists and traffic." Which explains why they don't...
For a long time I have been making distinctions between three different styles of cyclist training. These are: American traditional, vehicular cycling, and...
I don't know Peter Furth, but false dichotomies are easily constructed. He doesn't refute the fallacy, but simply turns it around and misuses it in the...
... As far as I know, there are no data to indicate that bicyclists following the rules of the road for slow moving vehicles are in any particular danger of...
I think it's reasonable to assume that in the context of these discussions the term "infrastructure" is used to refer to on-road (e.g. not parking facilities)...
... It would be a death trap!!! How would those poor soles in the bike lane on the right side of the road get over there??? Where's the positive guidance???...
Hi all, Bob Shanetau quoted someone on the APBP list: ... And Bob replied, in part: As far as I know, there are no data to indicate that bicyclists following...
John Schubert
Schubley@...
Dec 4, 2008 7:18 pm
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I rarely see a proper ped left turn performed. I often see some horrible rushed thing that really is just a left turn made from the far right, immediately in...
I have used the Pedestrian Left Turn method in the past, but that was pre-VC days. I posted somewhere in the 'net about this very issue and got as many varied...
Fred described my preferred method of making a left turn when I can't merge — a jug-handle turn. <<< A similar modification to the PLT would be to turn right...
From discussing the Danish bicycling system with various Danish advocates and examining infrastructure examples, it seems that pedestrian left turns are the...
Is this guy expressing a willful refusal to understand? Where do I assume the existence of a right turn only lane? Bob Shanteau ... Subject: Re: [apbp]...
I think he has a point regarding long vehicles (trucks and buses) starting their right turn in a position away from the curb. It's a physical necessity,...
the referenced drawings can be viewed here: <http://commuteorlando.com/wordpress/2008/12/05/possible-right-hook-countermeasure/> ... starting ... line or ... ...
More on the APBP list concerning justification of bike lanes from NYC. Interesting how drivers in NYC treat bicyclists and how bicyclists in return want their...
Both of those statements are incorrect. NY has a mandatory bike lane law and a mandatory bike path law, just like Oregon. I think NY also has a mandatory...
Interesting that Congressional earmarks have been criticized, and yet bikeway proponents now want their own place at the pork table. Bob Shanteau ... Subject:...
Money for bike projects is on the top of Andy Clarke's to-do list today. I wrote a paper in 1973 about Bicycle Bottlenecks, now called Barriers to Bicycle...
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