The survey strikes me as being the equivalent of asking 14-year-olds and other non-licenced drivers what motorists need, but you can judge for yourself.... ...
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Kenneth O'Brien
kob22225
Dec 2, 2007 9:37 pm
... Have you read this study, yet? How does a survey of a population with a false paradigm belief manage to contradict that bicyclists fare best when they act...
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chainguard@yahoogroup...
Dec 2, 2007 9:41 pm
================================== THE CHAINGUARD LIST IS NOT INTENDED AS A CHAT ROOM, FORUM OR BULLETIN BOARD FOR BICYCLING CHIT-CHAT OR DISCUSSION OF...
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Darrell Noakes
borealisoutdoor
Dec 2, 2007 10:13 pm
Looks like you've written the first letter to the editor (self-propelled@...). Also, be sure to check out the proposed cycling injuries study, which ...
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Kenneth O'Brien
kob22225
Dec 2, 2007 10:27 pm
... Saw it. Note it has Pucher referenced a number of times but never references any of the well known and well accepted studies on point. Ken...
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John Forester
biketransengr
Dec 2, 2007 11:42 pm
Kay Tesche's study tells us nothing new, it just repackages the common superstitions as reported by a new batch of respondents. Ms Wrathall incorrectly writes...
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Robert J. Matter
rjmatter00
Dec 3, 2007 4:37 am
... http://www.indyculturaltrail.info/ Bob Matter Hammond, Indiana ... Cyclestrians fare best when accommodated with exclusive space free of vehciles....
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Kenneth O'Brien
kob22225
Dec 3, 2007 1:07 pm
... Wide outside through lanes do not make cycling better. Please consider either dropping that all together - or a suggested ... If roadway designers wish to...
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Keri Caffrey
trafficcivil...
Dec 3, 2007 3:03 pm
Sometimes WOLs make it easier for cyclists to pass motorists. In normal operation, I prefer to be in the traffic lane, rather than beside it. But when traffic...
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Wayne Pein
wawa42p
Dec 3, 2007 7:22 pm
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/ la-me-settlement28nov28,0,1747794.story?coll=la-home-center Apparently two women joggers struck by a car driven in a 9-12 ft...
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Wayne Pein
wawa42p
Dec 3, 2007 7:28 pm
http://www.streetsblog.org/2007/07/12/ new-high-visibility-bike-lanes-in-brooklyn/ Blue bike lanes in Portland, neon green in Brooklyn. I really like high viz...
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Serge Issakov
ljserge
Dec 3, 2007 7:36 pm
The law that prohibits pedestrians (including joggers) from using bike lanes only applies if there is no suitable pedestrian facility (sidewalk) available. ...
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Keri Caffrey
trafficcivil...
Dec 3, 2007 7:47 pm
Euwwww, that green clashes with all of my jerseys! You might be on to something Wayne, we could design a line of matching cycling fashion-wear. Just think of...
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Kenneth O'Brien
kob22225
Dec 3, 2007 7:55 pm
... Bicyclists will always be the least impacted vehicle driver under congested conditions. This is due to the bicyclist's narrow vehicle - and ability to...
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Keri Caffrey
trafficcivil...
Dec 3, 2007 8:20 pm
... Is there any legality issue with overtaking on the left? It is legal for a cyclist to cross the yellow line to overtake a traffic jam? ... An abundance of...
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howmanlaurence
Dec 3, 2007 8:22 pm
I log on to the Web site which Bob Matter posted and What do I see Paths which cross streets and also run against the flow of the other vehicle users. So That...
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Wayne Pein
wawa42p
Dec 3, 2007 8:34 pm
... I think your absolutes are not applicable to everyone's situation. There can be distinct downsides to filtering forward on the left. If you are on the left...
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Kenneth O'Brien
kob22225
Dec 3, 2007 8:39 pm
... Whatever the specific local technical details, it _should_ be legal. The proper use of yellow center lines are as advisories about general channelization...
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Wayne Pein
wawa42p
Dec 3, 2007 8:39 pm
... CA ought to then call such a "bike lane" a "shared use" lane and sign it such that bicycle drivers can expect peds in their way. If there are peds there,...
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Wayne Pein
wawa42p
Dec 3, 2007 8:43 pm
... Our problem would be that our forthcoming (within a week or two) Comotion Speedster in Limetime green would become invisible :-) Wayne...
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Kenneth O'Brien
kob22225
Dec 3, 2007 8:51 pm
... I don't have any absolutes in there. I mention filtering forward on both sides, and included the issues and ranked concerns. ... Not in my experience....
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Kenneth O'Brien
kob22225
Dec 3, 2007 8:54 pm
... I submit that instead, everybody should : 1) Drop all attempts to legally hair-split define the bad design of bikelanes. 2) Recognize that if a public...
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Michael Graff
michaelgraff86
Dec 3, 2007 9:04 pm
... Or make it a shoulder. In California, shoulders are optional for cyclists while bike lanes are mandatory (with exceptions)....
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Wayne Pein
wawa42p
Dec 3, 2007 9:21 pm
... I'm disease free, and I can tell the difference 3 ft of space makes on my 30 inch wide bike. But if you are right (and in your mind you are), that a few...
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Michael Poplawski
michaelpopla...
Dec 3, 2007 9:29 pm
... Based on what I see in my region, what I would like to see is people recognize that marking the shoulders of roads as "bicycle lanes" screws pedestrians...
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kob2@...
kob22225
Dec 3, 2007 10:05 pm
... They are not meaningful as a 'bicyclist accommodation.' I believe they are quite meaningful as part of a wider program not related to bicycling-specific...
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Wayne Pein
wawa42p
Dec 3, 2007 10:33 pm
... 1. In the real world, bike lanes exist, their mileage is growing, and they aren't going away anytime soon, though I wish they would. So if they exist, then...
23893
poteit0r
Dec 3, 2007 10:45 pm
The Sevilla Town Council actually set up a poll to (suposedly) decide which color the city's bike lanes should be. There were only three colors to choose from,...
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Kenneth O'Brien
kob22225
Dec 3, 2007 10:59 pm
... That is the point. Bikelanes can't be done right. Any attempt to contribute to bikelanes being 'done right' is an effective mandate of an idea that just...
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Michael Poplawski
michaelpopla...
Dec 3, 2007 11:18 pm
... There is the idea that pedestrians have to move out of the way of motorists or cyclists. Where does this come from? In British Columbia, where I live, I've...
