... I don't have a website for advocacy issues. Because the 'mainstream' is as it is there is no advocacy organization at this time in which I can be an active...
... Perhaps you should start one. ... Perhaps you should start one. I am striking out on my own locally, but I have found several organizations to which I...
... Attended . ... I don't know. ... You can study the Portland Press Herald archives. I've had something on order of 10 published on bicycling issues over the...
KOB repeats his insistence that vehicular-cycling advocacy must contain nothing beyond the traffic movements of vehicular cycling upon all public roads. In his...
... That does not describe the part of your beliefs, or anybody else's, associated with vehicle bicycling on roadways. I was making the comment about the wide...
... I'm sure KOB will disagree with this characterization - not because it is wrong, but because that's what he does. ... I agree, although I would add that...
... I recognize and accept the rule that when I am appreciably preventing the flow of traffic I pull over - when safe - to let it through. For the tens of...
I'm getting a little tired of this line of argument. I am somewhat in Kenneth O'Brien's camp - I, too, primarily advocate locally by attending meetings and...
... makes "taking the >lane" a potential traffic impediment, while at the same time arguing for the right of >bicyclists to do so. ... As far as I'm concerned,...
Don't be coy, KOB. I didn't consider that you wanted me out of the group, only that I send elsewhere considerations other than traffic movements on roadways in...
... You should check Ken's postings on http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bicyclingadvocacy/ That is a list with a very anti-motoring slant and Ken goes after them...
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... I will give you a few names of people who have macro transportation views far from yours (and you label "anti-motoring"), and you can check if they think I...
Good to hear from you Peter, partly because the work you describe is important, but mostly because you don't pontificate ad nauseum. I certainly don't expect...
... No. Incorrect I said I come across the requirement to pull over because I appreciably back up traffic something on order of once a year or so, over my...
Because Bob Bayn suggested that I do so, I have read the relevant parts of the bicyclingadvocacy yahoo group for the last year. Yes, Ken writes to that list....
The posting that I have just made demonstrates the falsity of KOB's claims for his avoidance of "extraneous views on macro-transportation issues." He...
... I am willing to not make this discussion any part of my official efforts within a targeted bicyclist advocacy group. ... That is one of my reasons for...
... Note my point has been: what people are and are not willing to drop while working in official capacity for a bicyclist advocacy organization... I have not...
At 08:10 PM 11/1/2007, Kenneth O'Brien offered his concessions: "I am willing to not make this discussion any part of my official efforts within a targeted...
... I didn't see an answer to my question in the above. The question was whether _you_ would be willing to drop, as part of official efforts within a bicyclist...
... I'm 80% in disagreement for the following reasons. Sometimes the safest position is in the middle of the lane to prevent being doored and to prevent the...
... A bicyclist _does_ have to travel a predictable line. As a straight through bicyclist you shoot for as straight as practicable given conditions. You scan...
... I'm sure that happens to you all the time. ... For ordinary cyclists (and ordinary truckers) it happens quite regularly. ... Of course. Everybody else is...
... The other thing this is an issue of is people not giving enough respect to the wisdom and logic of traffic rules assigning all the primary duties of the...
... Comments like these help me understand where Robert Hurst, the author of the The Art of Urban Cycling, a popular book in which he derides vehicular cycling...
... I don't think you are reading for comprehension if what I wrote helped you to understand Mr. Hurst's silly comments. ... Being _sufficiently_ left does...
