John Forester writes in part: ... ?? You can't be serious. After your long history dealing with NCUTLO, and our more recent history together on the NCUTLO...
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Riley Geary
riley.geary@xxxxx.xxxx
Jan 1, 2000 10:06 pm
... I hate to have to point this out, but *conformity* IS the absolute and necessary basis for all traffic law. ... Now you're confusing the relative...
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John Forester
forester@xxxxxxxxxxxx...
Jan 2, 2000 6:00 am
Come on, Riley, of course I am serious. The tradeoff to NCUTLO is that if they switch to allow an amber reflector of the SAE type, they increase the brightness...
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Rogbyke@xxx.xxx
Jan 2, 2000 9:11 am
If you all don't mind, I would like to add my two cents here. John Schubert is correct in stating that rear reflectors or lights need to remain red, not...
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Kenneth O'Brien
kob@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx
Jan 2, 2000 2:52 pm
... Can't speak to those specific reflectors you tested, but you go out to an autoparts store today and buy the 3" amber/yellow versus 3" red, and that will...
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Ken Kifer
kenkifer@xxxxxxxx.xxxx
Jan 2, 2000 5:39 pm
Christoph Reuss, who has posted to this group recently, wrote me back in November, asking me if he could translate one of my humor web pages into German for...
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John Forester
forester@xxxxxxxxxxxx...
Jan 2, 2000 5:35 pm
Rick, the CPSC reflectors were not the result of the Cross study. The Cross study concerned accidents in 1975. The CPSC reflector system had been designed by...
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CRKJLaw@xxx.xxx
Jan 2, 2000 8:50 pm
Perhaps the best solution is to adopt Pennsylvania's law that requires both amber and red reflectors. I believe I paid $3 for a 3" armored reflector at Pep...
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Pete
ptr@xxxx.xxxx
Jan 3, 2000 2:11 am
... both ... In theory, yes. I think we need to back up a step or two, and get people to use *anything*. Reflectors, lights, LED's, flashlights taped to the...
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Curtis L. Russell
russellc@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx
Jan 3, 2000 2:34 am
Over time I've noticed that unusually warm days in winter are the worst as it encourages people to get on bikes who normally do not ride in the shorter...
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dkoloko@xxxx.xxx
Jan 3, 2000 3:07 am
Riley Geary writes "*conformity* IS the absolute and necessary basis for all traffic law." This truism is besides the point. John Schubert stated " Want to be...
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Riley Geary
riley.geary@xxxxx.xxxx
Jan 3, 2000 1:02 pm
... I have no idea what "information" you have but it's clearly WRONG! You can start with http://www.massbike.org/bikelaw/ (links to most of the state traffic...
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webmaster@xxxxxx.xxxx...
webmaster@xxxxxx.xxxx...
Jan 3, 2000 2:34 pm
Many thanks Ken for your positive presentation of my organization. ... In the meantime I have added an overview in English at http://www.igvelo.ch/english.html...
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Riley Geary
geary@xxx.xxxx
Jan 3, 2000 5:27 pm
... ?? I had no idea what you were talking about, until I noticed you had somehow switched threads somewhere along the line. Just for the record, there is no...
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Schubley@xxx.xxx
Jan 3, 2000 7:21 pm
Hi all, ... amber and red reflectors.<< PA law doesn't require that, at least not the way you mean it. PA law requires a red rear reflector and (sigh) amber...
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Schubley@xxx.xxx
Jan 3, 2000 7:34 pm
... Demetri, you're missing a few steps. Pros in the conspicuity business talk about the following sequence of events: -- Detection -- Recognition -- Decision...
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Schubley@xxx.xxx
Jan 3, 2000 7:44 pm
Hi all, ... over *170* pedestrians are killed each and every year on rural Interstates (and nearly TWICE that number on urban Interstates)<< Riley, I'll bet...
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John Forester
forester@xxxxxxxxxxxx...
Jan 3, 2000 8:12 pm
When I wrote that, had we had substantial long-distance bicycle, pedestrian, and horse-driven traffic when the rural freeway system was built, that traffic...
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John Forester
forester@xxxxxxxxxxxx...
Jan 3, 2000 7:40 pm
Riley Geary wrote: "But it IS inappropriate in that it is not always safe for a cyclist to remove a hand from the handlebars/brakes in order to signal,...
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jvance@xxxx.xxx
Jan 3, 2000 9:06 pm
I'm red/green colorblind. To me, amber reflectors are _much_ more visible, as are amber LEDs. Keep in mind that eight percent of drivers are also colorblind....
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Ken Kifer
kenkifer@xxxxxxxx.xxxx
Jan 3, 2000 9:44 pm
One time when a cyclist has an advantage over a motorist in signaling is at a five-way stop. The motorist can only signal left or right, so it's unclear which...
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Bob Sutterfield
Bob@xx.xxxx
Jan 3, 2000 10:13 pm
Go to http://www.sfgate.com and click on "Of Death And Bicycles."...
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Kenneth O'Brien
kob@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx
Jan 3, 2000 11:40 pm
... Since I'm a believer in the right of the public to access a public facility, I do seriously hope that pedestrians and others will be allowed to travel...
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Bob Sutterfield
Bob@xx.xxxx
Jan 4, 2000 12:15 am
... Hmmm, I guess they've already rolled that story off their front webpage. It's still there if you search for "bicycle": ...
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Kenneth O'Brien
kob@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx
Jan 4, 2000 12:34 am
... Along with the fact that it is highly likely that normal consistent pedestrian use characterized by travel along the edge of the roadway was not typical of...
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CRKJLaw@xxx.xxx
Jan 4, 2000 1:28 am
In a message dated 01/03/2000 2:34:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, Schubley@... writes: << You never saw red on mailboxes or the like. In such an ...
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Andrew Case
acase@xxxx.xxx.xxxx
Jan 4, 2000 1:49 am
... The article has since been moved: I found it at http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/ archive/2000/01/03/MN20259.DTL There is some...
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Fred Oswald
Fred_Oswald@xxxxxxxxx...
Jan 4, 2000 4:12 am
... If you are going to include a change to the headlamp specification, then consider the California requirements: "which, while the bicycle is in motion,...
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Fred Oswald
Fred_Oswald@xxxxxxxxx...
Jan 4, 2000 4:12 am
I just posted another iteration (Rev 10) of the draft for Model Laws. ... I am trying. Help me if you are willing. ... equipment, ... event ... Ken & John, Is...
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Rogbyke@xxx.xxx
Jan 4, 2000 4:15 am
John, my 66 New Yorker didn't have self canceling turn signals. My 67 GTO and 68 Javelin did though. BTW, Texas law states you will signal continuously at...
