Tom ended his response with " In short, even the most unofficial vehicular road ("little" or otherwise) is _still_ a vehicular road." and "A 4' space between...
Dear 20/20 Staff: Please pass this comment on to Mr. John Stossel. Last night, I was watching your report, Scared Stiff: Worry in America. I enjoyed it a...
Two examples of, erm, vehicular cycling that list subscribers may find amusing. From CTC Newsnet. "This cyclist stopped at red light "A cyclist could not be...
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Mar 12, 2007 2:42 am
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All, FYI. Revised traffic law to set rules for bicycles Eiji Kaji / Yomiuri Shimbun Staff Writer A revision bill of the Road Traffic Law submitted to the...
There is a great difference between cyclist advocacy and bicycle advocacy. The difference is not only in the content, but in the types of arguments and the...
... developed. ... OK... But taking a stand on whether that argument is a good argument, or whether or not whole wide classes of benefits could also have been...
Notice how cyclists are squeezed from both sides of the argument. 1. Don't ride on sidewalks because you increase the risks to pedestrians. 2. Don't ride on...
... But in reality they are not being squeezed from both sides. 'Clamping down' on *sidewalk* riding would improve _everything_ for _everybody_. It will...
... I agree. In fact, unless we consider only the structural aproach, social change must be seen as result of human action: public policy, as Ken states, is a...
... But the end result they appear headed towards (discouraging sidewalk bicycling) is good at least. Might as well celebrate that fact a little. Ken...
The "bikelane" + ped areas mentioned at the end are very bad of course. But it starts off well enough: "The current law recognizes bicycles as light vehicles,...
John Forester, Ken O'Brien and Xavier Treviño discussed bicycle/cylcist advocacy and transportation policy. One of the arts of politics, and these advocacies...
Mike Wilson
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Mar 15, 2007 11:06 pm
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... ground ... that ... know. Apparently mostly what Ken can't do is get his point across in the written word... That was not my point at all. What I suspect -...
John Forester ... He alienates to the detriment of bicyclist advocacy. Ken OB ... It is true that he alienates; reading his website gives an example. ...
Mike Wilson
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Mar 24, 2007 2:19 am
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... anti-motorists are not anti-roadway or cyclist-inferiority. ... And some of us think that *urban* private motoring has been, and remains, a...
... types ... developed. ... mass ... have, ... in ... manner. ... from ... either ... to ... is ... advocate ... What I seem to read into this, is a kind of...
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Mar 26, 2007 2:03 am
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I don't want to go to bikeforums.net and raise my blood pressure -- is it the masses or a few vocal folks, and what's the general gist or isn't there one? ON...
Anybody near Louisville KY want to attend a lecture by Prof John Pucher? See: http://calendar.louisville.edu/main.php?view=event&eventid=1174651043030...
bob.bayn@...
Mar 28, 2007 8:07 pm
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Hi all, ... pedestrian" list, someone posted that the PTB are considering raising the speed limit in one stretch to 40 mph; it is frequently used by cyclists...
Schubley@...
Mar 28, 2007 8:10 pm
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To heckle? ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
... Very wise to avoid bikeforums. ;^) Relatively few are very vocal, of course, as usual. However, they do seem to represent a solid majority of the...
The drift I get from bikeforums.net is that a good part, if not the majority, of the experienced cyclists who frequent it do practise VC on the roads, even...
FYI. I came across this article about John Auerbach. I don't recall his name mentioned since I became an active advocate seven years ago. Comments from you...
