A new report says that injury-related deaths among children 14 and under have fallen since 1994, but Canadian kids still face many hazards. Safe Kids Canada...
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Michael Graff
michaelgraff86
Jun 2, 2006 11:09 pm
... Oops, I guess that makes me a Bad Father. My kids were way younger than 10 when they first took to the streets with me, as I taught them the basics of VC....
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Darrell Noakes
borealisoutdoor
Jun 3, 2006 12:29 am
A regular cyclist I know, who is a traffic engineer, cycles on the the road regularly with his 5-yr-old son. I'm sure this will help his son become a competent...
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Darrell Noakes
borealisoutdoor
Jun 3, 2006 12:31 am
I was just thinking -- at age six and seven I rode to school every day along British Columbia Highway #3, a major highway through the southern interior of the...
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John Forester
biketransengr
Jun 3, 2006 10:13 am
Darrell Noakes asked, about the Safe Kids Canada 2006 report and the referenced article "Improving Bicycle Safety ..." "Does anyone know of any research or...
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Jim Baross
jimbaross
Jun 3, 2006 10:15 am
Ready for a paradigm shift? Many motorists are allowed to operate legally with two and even three people abreast - seated side-by-side in the front or...
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Herman I. May
kempiweb
Jun 4, 2006 2:12 am
... Your example is not a shift in paradigm; it is a comparison of apples and oranges. While I will not dispute the lack of logic prompting jurisdictions to ...
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Jim Baross
jimbaross
Jun 4, 2006 2:53 am
It makes a difference to me, but not to you... hence the opportunity for shifting your point of view/paradigm for the sharing of public road space....
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John Forester
biketransengr
Jun 4, 2006 9:40 pm
The discussions about how much roadway width to allow cyclists, or may be taken by cyclists, are largely irrelevant to cyclists, being little more than...
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chainguard@yahoogroup...
Jun 4, 2006 11:53 pm
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kob2@...
kob22225
Jun 5, 2006 12:09 pm
... Though Pennsylvania does still represent a success on this point, I believe? Yes, Mr Schubert? Ken ... mail2web - Check your email from the web at ...
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CRKJLAW@...
Jun 5, 2006 3:31 pm
In a message dated 6/2/2006 7:10:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, michael.graff@... writes: Oops, I guess that makes me a Bad Father. My kids were way...
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Doug Huffman
dhuffman_98
Jun 5, 2006 4:01 pm
I suspect, from the name similarity, that this is a parallel of an American effort. I am familiar with the American organization from its efforts to disarm...
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Darrell Noakes
borealisoutdoor
Jun 5, 2006 4:58 pm
What concerns me about publications such as the Safe Kids report is that if they remain unchallenged in the public record, they become the de facto standard....
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Schubley@...
Jun 16, 2006 2:38 pm
Hi all, One of my typically late replies follows. ... Thursday. ... ride on the road. It was my impression that children between 8 and 10 are capable of riding...
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chainguard@yahoogroup...
Jun 18, 2006 6:23 pm
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orum
Jun 18, 2006 8:10 pm
Chainguard members, John Scott has posted many messages to this group, so I wanted to ask your help. He has been reported missing since early June, so if any ...
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Lauren Cooper (Dances...
cyclemedia@...
Jun 19, 2006 9:14 pm
80% Safer = how many "times" safer? (4x, 5x,...) Thanks. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the...
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Wayne Pein
wawa42p
Jun 19, 2006 10:45 pm
... I believe 100% safer would be the same as "twice as safe," so 80% is 1.8 times as safe. Wayne...
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Doug Huffman
dhuffman_98
Jun 19, 2006 10:45 pm
80% = 80/100 = 0.80 <1 ... From: "Lauren Cooper (DancesWithCars)" <cyclemedia@...> To: <chainguard@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 2:25 PM ...
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bob.bayn@...
Jun 20, 2006 12:49 am
No, Doug, that would be "80% as safe" but "80% safer" adds a safety increment to the existing baseline amount so it's 1.0 + 80/100 = 1.8...
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Wayne Pein
wawa42p
Jun 20, 2006 12:49 am
... That would be true if the statement was "80% as safe." Wayne...
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Doug Huffman
dhuffman_98
Jun 20, 2006 12:51 pm
I think that it is as funny as if 1 + 1 = 2 got some sort of retort. As so often done here, logic/math/engineering doesn't mix well with rhetoric. Again I...
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Jack R. Taylor
jacktaylor
Jun 20, 2006 12:51 pm
... Lauren, Here's another take entirely. Although the simple answer to your direct question is that 80% safer is 1.8 times safer, in common usage it can be...
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Doug Huffman
dhuffman_98
Jun 20, 2006 7:48 pm
Masterfully done and gently. Bravo. Are the hazards of bicycling comparable to those otherwise accepted in daily life? Absolutely, I believe, and less than...
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Serge
ljserge
Jun 20, 2006 8:28 pm
Any news about John? This is awful. Serge...
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David Takemoto-Weerts
twotired1
Jun 20, 2006 11:45 pm
There has been no news here in Davis since the original News 10 story and the same information published in Friday's Davis Enterprise, the local paper. I'll...
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Lauren Cooper (Dances...
cyclemedia@...
Jun 21, 2006 12:29 am
I'm going from Forester's figure of 80% fewer collisions for VC-trained ... accidents is five times safer than 100." So I guess my answer is that you will in...
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Curtis L. Russell
timetrialler
Jun 21, 2006 11:50 pm
Unless they are using language carelessly, it shouldn't be four or five times safer - it should be 1.8 times safer. The first establishes a base of 100% and...
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Lauren Cooper (Dances...
cyclemedia@...
Jun 21, 2006 11:54 pm
MODERATOR'S NOTE: Lauren had sent this file earler but it was sent as attachment and the attachment was bounced. The original message was seeking list member...
