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chainguard@yahoogroup...
Jan 1, 2006 2:25 pm
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... Transportation" plan, not only here but in ANY city throughout North America, the very first thing that's shouted out is "bike lane?" <<< Because that's...
Lauren Cooper (Dances...
cyclemedia@...
Jan 3, 2006 3:36 am
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... All well said, Lauren. I would think that a useful tactic is to explain that there is a difference between road width and striping lanes. Cyclists and ...
Hi all, ... and John Forester replied with his usual thoroughness. I have the following brief comment to add: Legal researcher par excellence Sarah Etter has...
Schubley@...
Jan 4, 2006 3:05 am
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Lauren, explaining why everyone knows about bikelanes but no one ... What's the point of the "OK" by the time you mention the crucial bikelane problems? 1)...
bob.bayn@...
Jan 4, 2006 3:05 am
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... That's the strange thing. Velo Cape Breton's Touring 1 rides opening the season include classes in safe road riding (by vehicular principles), yet the...
John A. Ardelli
gelfling@...
Jan 4, 2006 3:06 am
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In a message dated 1/3/2006 10:06:41 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, bob.bayn@... writes: What's the point of the "OK" by the time you mention the crucial ...
CRKJLAW@...
Jan 4, 2006 11:27 am
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... But in a culture that misunderstands what constitutes a "bicyclist delaying a motorist", following this idea, unexamined, will lead us down a bad advocacy...
... None of us are lawyers, Sarah, you or me - and even if we were I bet we could still all disagree. Also, I believe common law is another body of law...
Thank you, John S., for the compliment. I make one comment here, and another in my next article. You mentioned Sarah Etter's search for a legal statement of a ...
... No. As a bicyclist, looking at this issue: getting the culture to accept that bicyclist belong on all public roadways would be useful. ... But it isn't. A...
In my previous article on the right to travel by bicycle and discrimination against it, I closed by arguing that cyclists' right to use the public highways...
Refering me to existing posts would be fine.... Advocates in Laguna Beach CA are seeking city council approval of a Class 3 route that will guide cyclists...
... I don't normally read Ken's posts but I opened this. In the UK and Ireland, cyclists along with pedestrians and equestrians, are typically held to enjoy a...
... bikelane problems? <<< ... way, then pull the rug from under him. <<< THANK YOU!!! My goodness. Please understand that the original poster and I were NOT...
Lauren Cooper (Dances...
cyclemedia@...
Jan 5, 2006 10:31 pm
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... Up to this point all very good and illuminating. ... No, such limitations are not proper. They are wrong and should be fought. It is alright with me if...
The following quote from John Forester is not from his "More right or more discrimination" article (which Ken O'Brien has beaten me to responding to the one...
There is a very great difference between prohibiting cyclists the use of the normal roadway with the rights and duties of drivers of vehicles, which is what...
... Well DUH! JF can say whatever he wants in HIS concept of bicycle advocacy. This in spite of KOB's insistence that he doesn't. I'd be annoyed too if KOB...
... I can't cite such a civil case. But why tempt fate? Why "guide" cyclists onto allegedly safer streets in order to get them off of an allegedly more...
... With respect to explicit and enthusiastic promotion/acceptance of freeway bans, I am 1) Explaining why it is unnecessary to include this in effective...
I wrote: "It does not bother me that motorists are allowed, by law and by the appropriate design of the road, to travel continuously at speeds that I cannot...
The legal issue concerns a possible future car-bike collision on Pacific Coast Highway, in which the motorist appears to have a large share of the fault, to...
"Properly administered" is the key phrase; it's impossible for bureaucrats to "properly administer" making all points equally accessible by freeway and by...
... Merely leaving out enthusiastic explicit promotion/acceptance/blessing- as-"proper" (especially when it was "entirely proper") of freeway bans will not...
I wrote, in part: "While I am not specifically concerned about motoring when considering cycling, I oppose arguments that attempt to limit motoring, beyond the...
... operating by the same rules, can cooperate together, and, for that, we need some degree of acceptance by motorists. But what if a majority of cyclists in...
... so that all traffic, ... we ... the ... [snip] TF: The "majority of cyclists" don't live in appropriate places for building bikeways. Bikeway advocates are...
Stewart, You certainly have every right to ride on paths you enjoy and to advocate for more, and in fact you in agreement with the vast majority of American...
