I have some questions about meaning and connotation: Is a "rolling pedestrian" the same thing as an "incompetent cyclist" or is there a difference? Is "in the...
Michael Graff asked the following questions: 1: "Is a "rolling pedestrian" the same thing as an "incompetent cyclist" or is there a difference?" A "rolling...
... (snip) TF: Here's what I look at as being the difference: A competent rolling pedestrian must, by definition, be a dismounted cyclist (although being...
... I disagree. When done with sufficient care, it is possible to ride a bicycle on pedestrian facilities competently, without dismounting. How effective such...
... I disagree right back at you. Bicyclists riding astride their bikes on pedestrian facilities along public ways that also include a roadway, eliminate the...
I differentiated between competent and incompetent rolling ... dismounted ... a ... TF: What I wrote is consistent with that, because there's no such thing as...
... There is a kind of half-way house which I use sometimes in "pedestrian zones" that consists of standing with the left foot on the left pedal and kicking...
Ken: Even most VCs concede that young children, riding tricycles and training-wheeled bikes, and when first learning to ride bicycles, belong on pedestrian...
... If vehicular bicyclists are riding on vehicular facilities per TF's statement, what objection could anybody on this list possibly have to sidewalk riding? ...
A brief perusal of EC's Index reminds me of no such passage. ... From: "Serge" <ljserge@...> To: <chainguard@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, November...
... Tiny children on toys belong away from motorized traffic, or under _very_ careful supervision. To learn the basic balance and riding skills of a bicycle,...
... It is unpleasant for the pedestrian - which is the one of the primary points of the specialized ped facility expense. It may encourage overdesign of the...
... Perhaps my memory is playing tricks on me. I don't have EC in front of me to verify. But you don't have to go far back in this forum to find a statement...
... When it comes to sidewalk and sidepath riding, this is no prejudice, but a quite accurate characterization. Sloppy thinking on this point is not helpful in...
My position about sidewalk cycling is as follows. As long as it is done in the pedestrian manner, it is acceptable. I have stated that I have done it myself,...
Hello ljserge@..., In reference to your comment: è My point is that riding a bike on a ped facility is not è _necessarily_ incompetent. For once Serge,...
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I side at least in part with Serge Sergeivich on this. One of the things the sidewalk-riding cyclists discover is that most of the time there are no ...
... No. I wasn't. I spelled out how I thought the practical elements should work. I believe starting around 7 or so, they should be considered bicyclists, and...
... Many times I have cycled on sidewalks, almost always because that is where the parking is. I live in bicycle-friendly Victoria, BC. There are tens of...
... Rather than use the term "competent", let's use the term "safely". I doubt Serge's mom is as safe, riding a sidewalk and crossing all those driveways and...
JFS: correcting a crucial goof in the following post. I meant to write "nobody with half a brain walks when they can cycle or ride..." The point is that...
... But all the alley/road/driveway entrance crossing, and proper/best-practice intersection behavior issues remain. ... What is being described is habitual...
Comments below: ... JFS: it does in many locations in new residential areas in CA, such as some I observe routinely in Dixon CA. Broad new sidewalks, almost...
Apparently, I need to provide more detail. My parents live in a retirement community. Within that community, the speed limit on the streets is 10 mph. Yes,...
I've thought in the past that Forester's book Effective Cycling might be more effective with an early chapter, or an appendix, going into more depth about...
... I think there's a zero-traffic cul-de-sac two blocks from my house where I can teach my daughter to ride a bike. Since using the sidewalks demonstrates...
... I think demonstrating this level of support for a practice that essentially never is followed to even the degree you describe (which I don't believe is...
2 block sounds very walkable, pushing the bikes. You haven't trained your daughter to balance and steer the bike, but you want to let here loose along the...
... What's the problem with the street? Without driveways, it must be very safe. It is very, very likely that the design for vehicle crossing of intersections...
