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Re: [CG] Toronto Safe Cycling Video

Looks like NW Lovejoy here in the P. It has a slight downgrade, maybe 1-2%, substandard DZBL crammed between streetcar tracks. At one point the BL takes you up onto the sidewalk into a crowded streetcar stop, then dumps you into the next intersection ready for a right hook. High crash potential IMO. I almost never ride on that road unless I'm riding my school bike with 26x2" tires (can still slip on the tracks after it rains, they get really slick when wet), and I ride between the tracks of course. As far as I know, no one has been knocked in front of a streetcar (which would likely be fatal, they weigh about 50 tons and take a while to stop), but I wouldn't be surprised if there have been at least a handful of right-hook crashes when cyclists role off the sidewalk into the intersection. I know that's a common way sidewalk cyclists get hit, carrying speed into the intersection and getting hit by a motorist not expecting anything moving that fast on the sidewalk. Overall a compromise in design I guess, but it does show the problems for cyclists when putting a streetcar line and stops in a narrow ROW and of mixing fast cyclists and (stationary) pedestrians.

-Ryan


--- On Fri, 7/3/09, Kat Iverson <kat_iverson@...> wrote:

From: Kat Iverson <kat_iverson@...>
Subject: Re: [CG] Toronto Safe Cycling Video
To: chainguard@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, July 3, 2009, 10:09 PM

The flowers are an excellent touch. She's already prepared for her own
funeral. You don't need flowers on your bike, Keri.

Kat

Keri Caffrey wrote:
> This video contains the scariest thing I've ever seen someone do in a "bike safety" video. You'll know what I mean.
>
> http://www.thestar. com/videozone/ 638869
>
> If you'll excuse me, I need to run out to Michaels to get some flowers for my Surly.
>
>




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This video contains the scariest thing I've ever seen someone do in a "bike safety" video. You'll know what I mean. http://www.thestar.com/videozone/638869 If...
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I suppose this means if someone can speak clearly, anyone can be an expert on bicycling safety. You are quite correct, Keri, the scariest thing practically...
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Jul 4, 2009
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The flowers are an excellent touch. She's already prepared for her own funeral. You don't need flowers on your bike, Keri. Kat...
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... Gee, door zone, trolley tracks and flowers all at the same time: <http://rmshant.googlepages.com/Yvonne.jpg> And although she talks about cyclists having...
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That's the way practically everybody does in Helsinki; sharing a gap between a tram and the doorzone(or curb) so small a gap that I don't even acknowledge it a...
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Jul 5, 2009
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Looks like NW Lovejoy here in the P. It has a slight downgrade, maybe 1-2%, substandard DZBL crammed between streetcar tracks. At one point the BL takes you up...
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Jul 5, 2009
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In the San Francisco area I cycled a lot on streets with streetcar tracks, and others with railroad tracks, but I don't remember regularly using any as narrow...
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