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Hi all,

Let's not overreact to the Toronto video.

The video shows a bad mistake -- riding in the door zone on a street
where you can't ride out of the door zone without hitting those train
tracks.

BUT:

The narrator gives no sign that she's hard core paint and path. She
appears to be on board with getting cyclists to assume responsibility
for their own safety.

She's the kind of person we could either.... turn on to our insights
... or turn off with our venom.

Let (s)he who has never made a mistake in print toss the first stone.

This is a teachable moment. Someone can contact her and say, "We saw
some real charm in your video, but there is one thing we think you
ought to correct."

The street with the train tracks crowding cyclists into the door zone
can't be ridden on safely. She should tell cyclists to avoid that
street and use a parallel route.

Also: I thought the flowers were cute, and I suspect they actually do
at least occasionally cause other road users to give her a bit more
attention and deference. Let her have her personal idiosyncracies, for
goodness's sake. As if the people on this list don't have personal
idiosyncacies!

But no, there will be no flowers on my bike.

John Schubert
Limeport.org




Sun Jul 5, 2009 2:36 pm

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