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Re: [CG] Why clarity in the law is important

Wayne wrote:


> It seems to me the best approach is to establish that we are
> motorcyclists with organic engines and we similarly have a right and
> need to manage our lane space.
>

"Bicyclists are motorcyclists with organic engines".

Slight variation: "Bicycles are motorcycles with organic engines".

I love it! Did you just think of it? Adding to my favorite quotes in
facebook right now!

Serge


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Mon Feb 23, 2009 8:07 pm

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