I know this isn't about football, and I'm sure I'll annoy some people by sending
it to these groups, but global warming is regarded by many as the most important
issue facing the human race, so tough!
I've been discussing environmental issues in the last three weeks, including
solar versus nuclear energy, whether "thorium" reactors could be a cheap safe
kind of nuclear energy and whether global warming is mainly caused by mankind,
on various internet forums initiated by my message "Guardian: Solar power from
Sahara could provide Europe's electricity, says EU" (which you can read at
http://www.revolutionaryplatform.net/forum/index.php?topic=9154). I've posted
most of my contributions to the debates on the Environment bulletin board of my
Revolutionary Platform Network Forum
(http://www.revolutionaryplatform.net/forum/index.php?board=106).
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Someone twice directed me to the "Skeptical Science" website, subtitled
"Examining the science of global warming skepticism". I have just posted the
following comments on the web page discussing the most common argument used by
those sceptical of global warming theory, entitled "Solar activity & climate: is
the sun causing global
warming?"Â (http://www.skepticalscience.com/solar-activity-sunspots-global-warmi\
ng.htm).
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No-one has yet commented on the massive disparity in temperatures between the
two graphs shown at the top of this page during the post-war boom (roughly the
first three decades after the Second World War)
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In a debate I've been involved in on various newsgroups
(http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.global-warming/browse_thread/thread/912fb8\
1971711597), a supporter of global warming called Fran mentioned "global
dimming" reducing temperatures from 1943-74.
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However, I have discovered that there are two completely different graphs of
average northern hemisphere temperatures on the internet! The graph shown in
"The Great Global Warming Swindle", displayed at the top of this page, looks to
be based on the same data as a March 2003 SPACE.COM article entitled "Sun's
Output Increasing in Possible Trend Fueling Global Warming"
(http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/sun_output_030320.html). This page came
top when I googled "total energy output from the sun TSI" (without quotes). The
graph on it uses data from an article by Baliunas and Soon in the Astrophysical
Journal. This seems to tally with Fran's dates.
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However, two Wikipedia pages (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_dimming and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_temperature_record) look to have similar
data to the "Land-Ocean Temperature Anomaly" line in the second graph on this
page (except the Wikipedia pages show 5-year rather than 11-year averages).
These show falling temperatures in the 1940s but not in the subsequent decades.
 It seems utterly ridiculous for predictions to have been made about a new ice
age in the 1970s (rather than earlier decades) if temperature had not been
falling as the latter graphs suggest. One set of graphs must be based on fake
data, and my current opinion that the latter ones are fake appears to be
supported by the NASA GISS data from individual measuring statements linked to
by Whata Fool on
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.global-warming/browse_thread/thread/912fb81\
971711597.
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I have heard (I can't remember where) that the southern hemisphere has not been
warming in recent decades unlike the north. Does anybody have any data about
southern hemisphere temperatures? If not, why not?
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My particular take on the climate/weather, irrespective of whether CO2 is really
the main contributor to global warming, is that it is being controlled by
conspirators on the side of big business in the big political struggles in the
world (to some degree or other, and maybe less so now than in the past). A BBC
documentary "The Science of Superstorms" largely about the USSR regime's
measures to affect where radioactive rainfall from Chernobyl came down and
Chinese measures to stop rainfall at the time of the Olympics opening ceremony
indicate that some level of control is possible. As weather forecasting has
improved, so has the ability to control it - and having high levels of warming
in some parts of the world and low levels in others suits the divide-and-rule
agenda of unethical forces in positions of power.
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I forgot to mention in the above comment that the whole argument that the sun is
not to blame is based on data/graphs that may be fabricated.
 There are massive vested interests, on both sides of the global warming
debate, so fabrication of data is to be expected.
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Bearing in mind that one set of data for cooling during the post-war boom
(despite higher production of carbon dioxide than earlier in the 20th century
when temperatures were rising) is incorrect and clearly fabricated, the same may
be true of recent solar radiance data.
 --
Steve Wallis (Glasgow, Scotland)
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