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Re: jojo challenge


Thanks Collin


JIM




--- In cankitesurf@y..., "Colin Gowland" <colin-gowland@h...> wrote:
> Ok I'll give you my thoughts off hand. I've been rather busy with
corporate
> meetings, data based analysis and other torturous tasks that make
up my
> weekly life...
>
> The JoJo 10 M got me (145 lbs) going upwind and looping on my 7 foot
> directional in 6-8 knots easily. It is a very fast moving kite and
is also
> quite stable. You could jerk the bar 5 times hard with the kite in
neutral
> and it would not luff. It was also extremely stable in the jumps.
The kite
> as I anticipated compares more in size to the 16m Wipika AB. I
didn't try
> the depowering system on the water... It is the same as the mossie
depower
> as Dave pointed out. It spills power but not by adjusting the AOA
like the
> sleds do.. it pulls the middle of the kite and let's the tips flare
outward
> like seagull wings when they are back. It worked well on land..
can't
> comment more than that.
>
> The construction is awesome and the bridle in tangle free- this is
very
> important to me as I could go out and not worry about the kite. It
does
> relaunch well and retains it's internal pressure well. Also
inflation is
> fast and painless.
>
> The 10m is quite easy to park and when there is not enough wind to
park it,
> it sines nicely generating enormous power when there is not. When
jumping,
> the kite generates continuous lift in the turns making for a much
better
> feeling in the air.. especially in light winds. When the wind is
gusty, the
> foil does require attention... maybe not so with the depower
system ... If
> you let your speed get up, it's good-bye edging... the kite is
extremely
> fast. It does produce some pretty big jumps when really powered up
though...
> not to mention floaty. The problem as I anticipated is holding an
edge with
> the kite high enough to initiate a jump. Maybe Trip Forman can do
it, but my
> measly 145 could not load the lines properly with the kite setup to
jump.
> It's simply too much pull up top when it's super lit. I watched Luk
have the
> exact same problem as me. The kites are so efficient that you can
easily
> keep it low and edge really hard with a wakeboard and keep it out
infront...
> however when you bring it up to send it for a jump, the kite rips
you off
> the edge before you get a chance to wind the lines hard, resulting
in low
> fast jumps...Of course this is only when extremely powered up. I
know what
> I had to do, it was just really hard. With an inflatable, I can
keep the
> kite sheeted way out, sheet in to turn it back and up, sheet out
for a
> second while it gets some height while I load and then yank the bar
in and
> explode. Maybe it would work with the JOJO depower system, I'm not
sure.
>
> The 8 m seemed to be a bit of a different beast in the gusty
conditions I
> had it in. Yes, it jumped high and went upwind well... probably
comparable
> to the AB but it would simply not park at the edge. It required
constant
> attention and flying to keep speed and then slow down. It reminded
me of how
> I learned to edge so hard before I became a lazy inflatable guy.
Anyway, I
> had a blast on it but it's not exactly a sit back and cruise type
of ride.
> Maybe the WET would be the call in this size if you were going for
an all
> JoJo quiver.
>
> In any case, I came out with less conclusive results than I first
thought.
> It's hard to get a perfect day and nail out all the variables to
compare two
> kites. I certainly won't be replacing my whole quiver with Rage
kites but
> I'll definitely buy one of them (10 or 12) long before I buy a
monster
> inflatable... so fast to setup, so easy to launch, extremely
stable, fast
> turning, not so much bar pressure required that I noticed although
more than
> the AB for sure, great jumping. Can't comment on the depower but I
still
> have my doubts about finding a kite to replace my 11.8... I'm glad!
At least
> I know I won't have to buy a mega inflatable..... that's a lot of
shit to
> pump up only to kitesurf in 7 knots :)
>
> So basically, I don't care about the range of the large/medium
kites any
> longer. All I know is that foils are back for super light wind fun
and I'm
> glad.. If you know how to edge hard, you can use it all the way up
to 15
> knots. If not, the depower system might work ok... but the 16m Wipi
is only
> good up to 15 anyway. This is the kite I've been asking for for
super light
> winds. Stable, reliable tangle free bridle, fast turning... jumps
are high
> and floaty. Nice job JoJo.
>
> Hope that helped,
> Colin
>
> If you have any specific quetions, hit me.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <everding5792@y...>
> To: <cankitesurf@y...>
> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 10:09 PM
> Subject: [cankitesurf] jojo challenge
>
>
> > Hi Collin,
> > Still waiting for a result from last weeks challenge. I am
> > interested in your comments about the jojo rage and if it can do
all
> > they say it can do.
> >
> > JIM
> >
> >
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Hi Collin, Still waiting for a result from last weeks challenge. I am interested in your comments about the jojo rage and if it can do all they say it can do. ...
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Ok I'll give you my thoughts off hand. I've been rather busy with corporate meetings, data based analysis and other torturous tasks that make up my weekly...
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Thanks Collin JIM ... corporate ... up my ... is also ... neutral ... The kite ... didn't try ... depower ... like the ... outward ... can't ... very ... does ...
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