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> please give some information about yourseves and feel free to ask
> questions or post pics or vidclips of relatedmaterial.thank you


does a kick in the snatch hurt, i've heard it hurts loads

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What To Expect When You "Least Expect It""

Plus, the non-lethal fantasy put to rest



The time you will be attacked you will most likely be:



Distracted

Out numbered

Alone

There will be no back up

You will be in the fight of your life.

Specific Defenses don't work.



1. Nothing you do will work. Last night one of the guys who train
with me is a Port Authority police officer. We were discussing the
merits of Pepper Spray. The common misconception is that the pepper
spray will end the assault. As you may or may not know, a lot of
emotionally disturbed persons (EDP) will just walk off the pepper
spray. Most times, it only serves to enrage them further. Now what?
Should you throw out your pepper spray? Of course not! Don't expect
the pepper spray to end the fight. DO expect the pepper spray to
afford you an opening to inflict greater damage or escape. Even if
the spray simply causes your target to blink, it's done its job. All
it has to do is create an opening, a little hesitation in your
assailant's plan of attack; just enough to let you seize the
opportunity, gain the advantage or escape.

When you train in hand to hand, always train with multiple, lethal
strikes. Don't depend on every technique you throw to hit its
intended target or end the fight. You will miss a lot more than you
hit. That's why you train with OVER KILL. You should go about two or
three steps past what you would normally perceive as the "end" of
the fight. Remember, it's better to be pleasantly surprised that
gravely disappointed.

2. You will not feel how you feel right now. In fact, your body and
mind will due a wide variety of things to help you deal with the
hormone induced stress. Tunnel vision, audio exclusion (you won't
hear everything), slow motion perception, loss of finite motor
skills and your reasoning skills will disappear. Don't think of this
a problem. Understand that your body is preparing its self for
battle. The same as it has done since Kane killed Abel.

3. You will act with single purpose. Think about the time(s) you
locked your keys in your car. How many times did you try the handle?
Even when you knew it was locked. Heck, we press an elevator button
repeatedly when we are impatient.  Imagine if your life depended on
it! Simple effective methods are tailor made to enable you to
operate with in this specific behavior. When you study a martial
art, the feeling is "The more moves, the better" Sort of a more bang
for the buck. Don't be concerned with what, just how effective.

4. You will be in the worst place imaginable. Your home, the parking
garage; chances are you will be distracted. That is, if your
assailant is doing his job. The terrain will be cluttered and
covered with "body unfriendly" objects like bottles, concrete and
asphalt.

5. You will be distracted. There is no doubt that the more aware you
are, the less likely you will be assaulted. Expect to be surprised.
Even the most experienced martial artists get startled by the family
cat.

6. Your assailant will have a distinct advantage. Whether it's a
weapon, accomplices or sheer size; you're picked as a likely target
because your attacker will think he has a great chance of imposing
his will on you.

No matter how hard you train, these reactions are hard wired into
you. That's why you need to work with in the parameters of what you
will be capable of accomplishing.

Now for the good news….

You will be able to absorb a tremendous amount of damage. There are
numerous reports of people being shot and stabbed multiple times,
surviving the assault and even driving themselves to get help. I
have seen video of a 110 pound police woman get shot 2 times, fight
back and surviving to patrol another day. I have also heard first
hand accounts of a 220 pound man crumble at the first sign of gun or
knife play; only to be pronounced dead at the scene. Do your own
research. You can begin by reading the accounts of Congressional
Medal of Honor winners. All of these people have been shot and
stabbed multiple times, performed amazing feats and some even
SURVIVED before they died. Take Ben Salomon for example. On July 6th
and 7th, 1944,  during a battle on the island of Saipan, Ben
Salomon's Army surgical tent became overrun by a Japanese infantry.
According to eye witnesses, Ben shot the first one who had bayoneted
a wounded American lying on a stretcher. Two more charged through
the tent entrance. Ben clubbed them both with a rifle, then shot one
and bayoneted the other. Four more began to crawl under the sides of
the tent. He shot one, bayoneted one, stabbed another with a knife,
and head butted the fourth. Next, Ben ran out of the tent to get
help to defend the aid station. He quickly realized that the
situation was hopeless since the Japanese force had overwhelmed the
two American battalions. Pockets of American resistance fought on
inside the perimeter, but the bulk of the surviving American
soldiers were being pushed back toward Tanapag village. Salomon
returned to the tent and ordered his aid men to evacuate the wounded
while he stayed behind to hold off the enemy and cover their
withdrawal. Salomon then grabbed a rifle and fought on with the few
Americans still resisting inside the perimeter. Eventually he manned
a machine gun after its gunner was killed. That was the last time
anyone saw Ben Salomon alive.  After the battle, Ben Salomon's body
was found with 72 bullets in it. Doctors confirmed that he incurred
at least 24 of the wounds BEFORE he died. Not bad for a dentist from
Wisconsin.

What's the secret, what's the difference? What makes people like Ben
Salomon continue to go forward?

ATTITUDE!

No matter who you are you will have one of to reactions. One will
get you killed; the other may save your life. If your reaction
is "Oh God, why is this happening to me" you will surely end up in
the box. But if your reaction is "I'm taking you with me you SOB!!!"
You've got a good chance of making it home. First, you have to
assume you're already dead and anything you do is an improvement
over being dead. Don't complicate this issue. It can't be
rationalized. Rationalization only serves denial of the truth. And
Denial will get you killed.

You can use this information when you're training. If you are doing
weapons training and the knife touches you, YOU ARE NOT
AUTOMATICALLY & MAGICALLY DEAD. You may be cut or shot, but you are
far from dead. Remember, nobody dies in training.
But be prepared. Know that you will have to fight, even if you're
injured. Don't stop. When you do this you will stop at the moment
something doesn't work out.

Nothing will go smoothly and it NEVER LOOKS GOOD. Save that for
Hollywood. It's a struggle. It's Ugly and painful. You want to be as
ruthless and as nasty as fast as possible. Anything less reduces
your chances for success. It's that simple. The longer you prolong
the fight, the less your chances of success. Train and act as if
your life depends on it, because it does.



"Non-lethal" technique or methods designed to subdue your assailant
with out doing significant damage are a fantasy designed to play on
your sense of compassion and fair play. If you're a civilian being
assaulted in the street or a soldier in the heat of battle, there is
no place for it. The only application of non-lethal technique is in
law enforcement only to be used on compliant and semi-compliant
subjects.  If you happen to end a situation and your target remains
alive, it was his lucky day. But it was your choice to stop, not his.



Why are the methods that came out of the early 1900's are so
effective. First off, we will never have the opportunity to "test"
methods like these on the scale that they have been tested.
Technology has changed the way we wage war, so the instances of hand
to hand combat significantly less. But make no mistake, times and
technology may change but hand to hand, mano y mano will never
change. Unless we grow a third arm, we are still basically the same
since the first homo sapien sapien walked the earth. New training
methods may appear but the opportunity to test their validity is
less available than the world war I and world war II era.



No matter what you do…it must be instinctive, swift and powerful.
This is why the information gathered @
www.thetruthaboutselfdefense.com is so valuable and sought after.
Carl Cestari breaks it down in a way that is easily understood.



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1. This data is for hormonal induced heart rate increase resulting
from the sympathetic nervous system arousal. Heart rate increase
resulting from exercise will not have the same effect.
2. Hormonal induced performance and strength increases can achieve
100% of potential max with in 10 seconds, but drop 55% after 30
seconds, 35% after 60 seconds and 31% after 90 seconds. It takes a
minimum of 3 minutes of rest to "recharge" the system.
3. Any extended rest after sympathetic nervous system arousal can
result in parasympathetic backlash, with significant drops in energy
level, heart rate and blood pressure. This can manifest itself as
normal shock symptoms (dizziness, nausea and/or vomiting, clammy
skin) and/or profound exhaustion.

You can see that the optimum heart rate is between 115 and 145 BPM. I
can't stress enough the difference between exercise induced heart
rate and hormonal induced heart rate.

How many times have you been locked out of your home or car and you
really needed to get in, how many times do you try the door handle.
When people are trapped in a crowded theater and they will try to
open the door, over and over and over again. Knowing its locked has
nothing to do with it, when your mind starts going into condition
red, you lose all rational thought.

How do you prepare or prevent yourself from going into condition red
and blacking out?
1. Experience. The more times you are put into a situation, you
become inoculated against the stress. As we are seeing today,
soldiers who have been in combat are more effective than those who
have not been.
2. Training. The more you can replicate the circumstances of a
stressful situation, the more you can learn what to expect. This
requires training partners, training environments and a lot of
repetition.
3. Physical conditioning. The better your physical condition, the
more damage you can absorb and the longer you can function under
extreme stress.

The problem is most people don't have access to specific training for
self defense. If you are like most people, you don't have the time to
dedicate 8 to 12 hours a week on your training. This is why the
methods found at www.thetruthaboutselfdefense.com work.
These methods were developed for people don't have the time to
dedicate to learning complicated techniques of a martial art. These
methods are engineered to enable you to function under fire. Keep in
mind, the people who reley on these methods are preparing for combat-
a life or death situation is inevitable.

Instintive and convulsive. No warm up, no metal preparation, you must
be ready to go at a moments notice. You will not be attacked in the
gym. You will be going to your car or shopping at the mall, you will
be taken by surprise. Your reaction must be instinctive and
convulsive.

Let's take the axe hand or short edge of hand as an example. It's
durable; you can hit most anywhere on your target without doing
significant damage. If trained minimally, even the smallest person
can develop enough power to knock a much lager person out cold.

Remember when you locked your keys in the car? Now that's minimal
stress. How many techniques will you even try, one, two, any?
The truth is, when you' re stressed without benefit of realistic
training or the experience of being in that situation repeatedly, you
will not act rationally, your body will not allow it! At the most,
all you will be able to do are a few techniques. Realistically, even
if all you did was an edge of hand, repeatedly and forcefully over
and over and over again- you will increase your chances dramatically.
The problem is, most self defense methods DON'T EVEN CONSIDER THIS!
What happens when you learn a little of a lot of technique? Nothing.
You will freeze and do nothing.
That's why when you practice it must be intense. You must hit
repeatedly and as hard as you can.

Try this. Stand in front of your training target. Time yourself if
you can. Using just the short axe hand, hit that thing as much and as
hard as you can.
How long did you go for before you are totally exhausted or whipped?
Cut that time in half- that's your fight life. That's roughly how
long you will last before you will have to regroup or rest.

©2005 www.thetruthaboutselfdefense.com

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Why your method of Self Defense Needs to be Instinctive and
Convulsive"


When you are under hormone induced stress, or fear, your body prepares
itself for combat. You will not be able to recall complicated and
intricate techniques.
In Col. Grossman's book On Combat, he explains this in great detail
about the physiological changes your body goes through. We even
discuss
it briefly on www.thetruthaboutselfdefense.com. Below is a graph taken
from On Combat that clearly illustrates what will happen to you when
you are placed under extreme stress.

Below is the psysiological affects of "hormone induced" heart rate and
overall performance

The Knife Defense Myth"
by Carl Cestari


Instead of talking about a lot of b.s. concerning so-called
unarmed "knife" defenses, let's reverse roles for a moment.

Let us assume the "role" of the attacker, instead of the "defender".
First, let's consider the "choice" of weapon.

A knife or any edged weapon is an "up close and personal" tool of
ferocious and brutal mayhem. You have to close with your mark and
physically, violently and with extreme prejudice stab, slash, and
hack him to bits. It's not like a gun, which could have an element of
detachment. No, a knife is about as personal, brutal and ruthless as
it gets.

So what kind of "mind-set" does this entail? You are going close with
your target hard and fast, using deception, surprise or simply a
committed and brutal pouncing. You are going to be determined,
ruthless, brutal, ferocious, vicious, and most probably filled with
hate and rage.

You are going to seize the target with abject brutality and stab,
slash, hack and eviscerate with totally committed rage, ferocity and
hate. OVER and OVER and OVER.

NOTHING is going to stand in your way. NOTHING! You are going to
DESTROY whatever DOES attempt to thwart your murderous assault. You
will attack repeatedly with ALL the strength, speed, and brutality
you are capable of. And THAT will be heightened even MORE by rage and
adrenalin.

You KNOW that you MUST get this over with QUICKLY. Your attack will
be a frenzy of hate, rage and murderous INTENT.

You WON'T "feint" with your blade, you WON'T "spar" with your blade,
you WON'T "half-step" with your blade.

You WILL attack with brutal and ruthless rage. You WILL punch, kick,
bite, gouge, butt, and do ANY and EVERYTHING that will accomplish you
GOAL in as ferocious a manner as inhumanly possible.

Unless YOU are killed outright, NO injury will dissuade you from
KILLING your mark. In FACT, anything LESS than your death, will ONLY
add MORE FUEL to YOUR FIRE. NOTHING, short of your immediate demise
CAN stop you. Rage, hate, murderous intent and adrenalin are fueling
you to an almost superhuman state of FRENZY and FEROCITY!

Even when your man goes down, and DOWN you are determined to put him,
YOU still continue the assault. You stab and stab and stab. You kick
and stomp OVER and OVER and OVER again.

You DON'T even begin to "disengage" until your "blood" lust has been
quenched, and your mark taken off the count.

THAT is what REALLY happens when one human being uses a knife on
another.

Face that FACT squarely. Too many are "playing" knife gymnastics
without EVER even realizing what the street has in store for them. It
isn't going to be pretty!

Are you REALLY preparing to DEAL with THAT?

Or are you kidding yourself and others?

REALITY sucks, as they say. But it is what it is!

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>
> How do you defend yourself if attacked by 2 men? Honestly how
effective
> is the groin strike? I've kicked guys in the balls and some of the
them
> are not affected. the best way is to try and keep one atacker
between you and the other attacker so your fighting one at a time
there are drills for this and go for the throat or eyes now the
second question is it depends on several things one is his ability
to take pain and if he on something or has a lot of addrenalin
pumping next is angle and point of inpact you have to hit the balls
if you hit the front of the groin or pubic hair its less effective
and if you hit under neath the groin but miss the balls it less
efective and one more point is that it wont stop an attack like
getting choke or punched but it usally stops a rape but the guy can
still hit you or what ever but if everything is done right you can
kill a man or girl with a groin shot

How do you defend yourself if attacked by 2 men? Honestly how effective
is the groin strike? I've kicked guys in the balls and some of the them
are not affected.

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