Hi Rick, I think i need to be more clear about what i am talking aobut. :^) Especailly since I know of at least three brown belts who have extremely execellent self defense systems.
If you are talking aobut strictly self defense systems I agree .
however, in the traditioanl systems there are things in the basics that are not taught until the brown or red belt level.
Now do I agree with that? Obviuosly not, since as I as stated I know of three brown belts who teach and are very good at what they do, yet they teach strictly self defense.
as far as the traditional, if it is the purpose of feeling like people can not handle more than a certian amount of knowledge, I can see a brown belt not being able to teach that system until black belt level. after all that is the way it was set up to begin with. I sometimes believe they held out certian
thigns just to make it longer.
I am in no way talking aobut people who teach the self defense systems..I am only talking aobut a person who wants to teach systmes like Shot-kan, Tang Soo Do, and the such as those systems are. Not the innovative teachers I know personally like you, JW, and others who have gone one step further to analyze what they teach, and not just teach blindly what they are taught.
Hope that strightens it out a litttle. I know for a fact that you, JW, and others out here have execellent self defense systems. And no in that case I do nto believe that anyone has to be at a BB level to teach it. again, I was talking aobut the traditional systmes, and how they are laid out.

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