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Re: Hall Of Shame!

Basically I dislike both of them, but if I had my pick as to who was
the bigger factor in letting the dodgers go, it was definitely Moses.
O'Malley was willing to buy the land at the time at Flatbush and
Atlantic Ave which would have been the perfect location for a
Brooklyn stadium as I believe it is now.
Moses had no problem condemning land, just wouldn't do it for
O'Malley.
My main pont is that O'Malley shouldn't be in the hall of fame simply
because he accepted a business proposition that no one in his right
mind would turn down.
His contributions to baseball were limited to what was in his own
best interest as a business man and not the best interest of the game.

--- In brooklyncyclones2@yahoogroups.com, dantwo <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> I am no friend of Moses, but in his dealings with O'Malley I side
> with Moses - he upheld what was right. O'Malley had the finances
to
> buy the land himself without Moses' assistance. He was looking for
a
> handout that Moses was not going to give him. Did Moses do it for
> others? yes - but just because he did it for others doesn;t mean
it
> would have been right to do it for O'Malley too.
>
> --- In brooklyncyclones2@yahoogroups.com, "pwitt1012" <pwitt1012@>
> wrote:
> >
> > While O'Malley may not be the villian that our borough president
> > portrays him to be, but let's also remember that O'Malley's
> baseball
> > vision extended only as far as his wallet.
> > I don't think he moved the team because of some grand vision he
had
> > of baseball's future out west, he moved them at the time simply
> > because LA offered him the best deal, acres of land for the
> princely
> > sum of one dollar.
> > Like most owners, the man never acted out of what was good for
> > baseball, just what was in his best financial interest.
> > Had the city been willing to do the same thing then that they're
> > doing now with the Atlantic Yards site and condemn the land at
> > Flatbush and Atlantic AVE to give to O'Malley instead of Ratner
> years
> > ago, the Dodgers might still be here.
> > Granted the villian to blame here for Brooklyn losing their team
is
> > Robert Moses not Walter O'Malley.
> > But just because O'Malley was a smart businessman who acted in
his
> > own financial best interest shouldn't be enough to get him
elected
> to
> > the hall of fame.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In brooklyncyclones2@yahoogroups.com, dantwo <no_reply@>
wrote:
> > >
> > > I couldn't disagree more. Regardless about what he did to
> > Brooklyn, as
> > > a baseball executive O'Malley was one of the top in the game.
By
> > > moving the Dodgers and Giants (and let's be honest, he moved
the
> > > Giants - Stoneham was along for the ride), he expanded Major
> League
> > > Ball to a much more broader audience. He saw the growth of the
> > west
> > > and knew baseball had to capitalize on that growth.
> > >
> > > The man was bad for Brooklyn, but good for the game
> > >
> > > --- In brooklyncyclones2@yahoogroups.com, "samuelfriedman"
> > > <samuelfriedman@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I cannot believe that Walter O'Malley, the SOB who robbed
> > Brooklyn of
> > > > its beloved Dodgers (and a large chunk of its identity in the
> > > process)
> > > > has been voted into the Hall of Fame! Hall of Shame is more
> like
> > it.
> > > > Sure, New York City politicos were negligent in allowing the
> Bums
> > to
> > > > skip town, but that doesn't absolve O'Malley of his crimes
> > against
> > > > baseball!!! Shame, shame, shame on the Hall of Fame Veterans
> > > > Committee!!!
> > > >
> > > > Sammy Cyclones
> > > >
> > >
> >
>





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I cannot believe that Walter O'Malley, the SOB who robbed Brooklyn of its beloved Dodgers (and a large chunk of its identity in the process) has been voted...
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Dec 4, 2007
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Yet Gil Hodges is still not in. Go figure. What gives? Jerry **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. ...
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Dec 4, 2007
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Let's not forget, Sammy, that the Hall of Fame is a Hall of Shame because their special Negro Leagues committee failed to induct a beautiful man - the late...
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Dec 4, 2007
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That is indeed a crime--how is that possible??? The man was one of the best catchers (certainly offensively) of all time, right? Sammy C. ... because their...
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Dec 6, 2007
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Buck O'Neil isn't in yet? That's a surprise. ... because their special Negro Leagues committee failed to induct a beautiful man - the late Buck O'Neil. ... of ...
Lou
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Dec 15, 2007
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I couldn't disagree more. Regardless about what he did to Brooklyn, as a baseball executive O'Malley was one of the top in the game. By moving the Dodgers...
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Dec 7, 2007
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While O'Malley may not be the villian that our borough president portrays him to be, but let's also remember that O'Malley's baseball vision extended only as...
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Dec 8, 2007
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I am no friend of Moses, but in his dealings with O'Malley I side with Moses - he upheld what was right. O'Malley had the finances to buy the land himself...
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Dec 11, 2007
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Basically I dislike both of them, but if I had my pick as to who was the bigger factor in letting the dodgers go, it was definitely Moses. O'Malley was willing...
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Dec 12, 2007
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