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#837 From: adriennewimbush <wimballan@...>
Date: Sun Nov 22, 2009 8:44 pm
Subject: Re: re: bitless driving photos and such
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Thanks Margaret,
    He's a Gypsy Cob. No, my trainer makes those bridles.
Adie


> Hi Adie: Just wanted to say that the photos are good, looks like a
> draft cross, lots of hair. Is the bridle the one you made?
>
> Margaret F
>
>

#836 From: "rfairfield12000" <rfairfield12000@...>
Date: Sun Nov 22, 2009 5:34 pm
Subject: re: bitless driving photos and such
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Hi Adie:  Just wanted to say that the photos are good, looks like a draft cross,
lots of hair.  Is the bridle the one you made?

Margaret F

#835 From: "Ruger" <cathieanderson@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 3:18 am
Subject: Re: BITLESS DRIVINING????
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[IMG]http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/ww359/Cathie1/driving%20photos/R\
uger3rdtimehitchedpuddle.jpg[/IMG]

Don't know if this link will work, if not I have photo's here of driving
on this site as well as my web site
http://www.bobcatfarm.com
   I started my last two horses driving bitless, no prior bit experience
for either, they go great.
I've also gone bitless with horses that were trained with a bit first,
they went much better bitless.
My biggest priority bit or bitless is great brakes, good on voice
command of woah! as well as giving to pressure.
Hope this helps.
Cathie


--- In bitlessbridle@yahoogroups.com, Marna Kazmaier <marna@...> wrote:
>
> I am pretty sure, not too long ago, someone on this list was saying
they
> drove they equine with a bitless bridle <?>
> I am training my donkey to drive.  I am ground driving her with just a
> halter and it is going very well.  I ride her in a Dr. Cook's Bitless
> Bridle (and love it).
> Soooooooo? If you are driving your equine bitless can you tell me if
> your equine were trained with a bit first?
> Thanks,
> Marna SD
> www.doesmybuttlookbiginthesaddle.com
> www.bibledonkeys.com
> www.workinggoats.com
>

#834 From: adriennewimbush <wimballan@...>
Date: Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:48 pm
Subject: Re: Re: putting photos into photo album
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Thanks!
   Yep that's me. I normally have no problems at all.
Adie

>
>
> It's done, both pics are in your album "Bitless Driving", and also on
> the new pics on the home page. First time for me doing this sort of
> thing talk about mind boggling LOL. You live in Australia don't you?
> I'm in Canada. You also were the one who made the rope bitless? It's
> still in the photo files, bye the way.
>
> Margaret
>

#833 From: "rfairfield12000" <rfairfield12000@...>
Date: Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:32 pm
Subject: Re: putting photos into photo album
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It's done, both pics are in your album "Bitless Driving", and also on the new
pics on the home page.  First time for me doing this sort of thing talk about
mind boggling LOL.  You live in Australia don't you? I'm in Canada.  You also
were the one who made the rope bitless?  It's still in the photo files, bye the
way.

Margaret


--- In bitlessbridle@yahoogroups.com, adriennewimbush <wimballan@...> wrote:
>
> Sorry, getting mixed up!
> Adie
>
> >
> >
> > Abby the donkey belongs to Marna!!!!! as do the goats, not me.
> >
> > Margaret
> >
>

#832 From: adriennewimbush <wimballan@...>
Date: Wed Nov 18, 2009 8:37 pm
Subject: Re: Re: putting photos into photo album
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Sorry, getting mixed up!
Adie

>
>
> Abby the donkey belongs to Marna!!!!! as do the goats, not me.
>
> Margaret
>

#831 From: adriennewimbush <wimballan@...>
Date: Wed Nov 18, 2009 8:21 pm
Subject: Re: Re: putting photos into photo album
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On their way. Oh sorry, SHE!
   The album is there, 'Bitless Driving'. I left it open so anyone can
add to it...
Adie

>
>
> very strange. Send me the photos rfairfield12000@...
> <mailto:rfairfield12000%40yahoo.ca> and I will see if I can put them
> into an album for you, worth a try. He is a she bye the way "Maddi".
> Have two others "Meara" and "Mr.Misty" and a mini (not the one in my
> album) "Manny". Let me know what you want the title of the album to be.
>
> Margaret
>

#830 From: "rfairfield12000" <rfairfield12000@...>
Date: Wed Nov 18, 2009 8:16 pm
Subject: Re: putting photos into photo album
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Abby the donkey belongs to Marna!!!!! as do the goats, not me.

Margaret

--- In bitlessbridle@yahoogroups.com, adriennewimbush <wimballan@...> wrote:
>
> Abby looks great, Margaret.
>   I love the goats, too, do they enjoy pulling carts?
> Adie
>
> >
> >
> > LOVELY PHOTO MARGARET!!
> > And while I was there I added a couple of photos too......Abby in her
> > Dr. Cook's Bitless as well as one of our goats training, who also will
> > be driving bitless <grin> The photos are in an album called Marna's guys.
> > Marna SD
> > www.faroutliving.com
> > www.bibledonkeys.com
> > www.workinggoats.com
> >
>

#829 From: adriennewimbush <wimballan@...>
Date: Wed Nov 18, 2009 8:15 pm
Subject: Re: putting photos into photo album
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Abby looks great, Margaret.
   I love the goats, too, do they enjoy pulling carts?
Adie

>
>
> LOVELY PHOTO MARGARET!!
> And while I was there I added a couple of photos too......Abby in her
> Dr. Cook's Bitless as well as one of our goats training, who also will
> be driving bitless <grin> The photos are in an album called Marna's guys.
> Marna SD
> www.faroutliving.com
> www.bibledonkeys.com
> www.workinggoats.com
>

#828 From: "rfairfield12000" <rfairfield12000@...>
Date: Wed Nov 18, 2009 8:07 pm
Subject: Re: putting photos into photo album
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very strange. Send me the photos rfairfield12000@... and I will see if I
can put them into an album for you, worth a try.  He is a she bye the way
"Maddi".  Have two others "Meara" and "Mr.Misty" and a mini (not the one in my
album) "Manny".  Let me know what you want the title of the album to be.

Margaret

--- In bitlessbridle@yahoogroups.com, adriennewimbush <wimballan@...> wrote:
>
> Nah, no change.
>   I was thinking it was because of my operating system being Linux, but
> I can add pics to other yahoo groups!
> Adie
> P.S He's lovely!
>
> >
> >
> > Hi Adie: It worked for me and I'm a complete dunce when it comes to
> > doing these sort of things. Before you send those photos try again as
> > I probably will have trouble getting your photos into the album from
> > my e-mail, but if you can't then send them and I'll give it a try.
> > Meanwhile check out my morgan being driven bitless under Fairfield.
> >
> > Margaret
> >
> >
>

#827 From: adriennewimbush <wimballan@...>
Date: Wed Nov 18, 2009 8:00 pm
Subject: Re: putting photos into photo album
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Nah, no change.
   I was thinking it was because of my operating system being Linux, but
I can add pics to other yahoo groups!
Adie
P.S He's lovely!

>
>
> Hi Adie: It worked for me and I'm a complete dunce when it comes to
> doing these sort of things. Before you send those photos try again as
> I probably will have trouble getting your photos into the album from
> my e-mail, but if you can't then send them and I'll give it a try.
> Meanwhile check out my morgan being driven bitless under Fairfield.
>
> Margaret
>
>

#826 From: Marna Kazmaier <marna@...>
Date: Wed Nov 18, 2009 7:51 pm
Subject: Re: another bitless driver
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Thanks for the kind words.  The shafts on the goat cart are set up a bit
differently then with a pony cart.  The shafts themselves become or act
as the single tree.
Marna SD
www.workinggoats.com
www.faroutliving.com
www.bibledonkeys.com

rfairfield12000 wrote:
> This is the friend that I talked into buying a bitless for his mini when he
was having mouth problems.  Photo is in my photo album "Fairfield" also it's in
the new pics at the top of the home page.  Great photos of the goats and donkey,
very handsome donkey I must say.  Have you thought of using traces and a
singletree with the goats?  I don't see anything like that on your set up, would
make pulling much easier on the goats.
>
> Margaret
>
>
>

#825 From: "rfairfield12000" <rfairfield12000@...>
Date: Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:39 pm
Subject: another bitless driver
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This is the friend that I talked into buying a bitless for his mini when he was
having mouth problems.  Photo is in my photo album "Fairfield" also it's in the
new pics at the top of the home page.  Great photos of the goats and donkey,
very handsome donkey I must say.  Have you thought of using traces and a
singletree with the goats?  I don't see anything like that on your set up, would
make pulling much easier on the goats.

Margaret

#824 From: "rfairfield12000" <rfairfield12000@...>
Date: Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:38 pm
Subject: another bitless driver
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This is the friend that I talked into buying a bitless for his mini when he was
having mouth problems.  Photo is in my photo album "Fairfield" also it's in the
new pics at the top of the home page.  Great photos of the goats and donkey,
very handsome donkey I must say.  Have you thought of using traces and a
singletree with the goats?  I don't see anything like that on your set up, would
make pulling much easier on the goats.

Margaret

#823 From: Marna Kazmaier <marna@...>
Date: Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:57 pm
Subject: Re: putting photos into photo album
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LOVELY PHOTO MARGARET!!
And while I was there I added a couple of photos too......Abby in her
Dr. Cook's Bitless as well as one of our goats training, who also will
be driving bitless <grin>  The photos are in an album called Marna's guys.
Marna SD
www.faroutliving.com
www.bibledonkeys.com
www.workinggoats.com

rfairfield12000 wrote:
> Hi Adie:  It worked for me and I'm a complete dunce when it comes to doing
these sort of things.  Before you send those photos try again as I probably will
have trouble getting your photos into the album from my e-mail, but if you can't
then send them and I'll give it a try.  Meanwhile check out my morgan being
driven bitless under Fairfield.
>
> Margaret
>
>
>

#822 From: Marna Kazmaier <marna@...>
Date: Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:34 pm
Subject: Re: re: photos - driving (training) bitless
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You would be able to attach them to an email here.....I would LOVE to see your photos.
I have decided to use Abby's Dr. Cook's bridle and attach the driving reins to them and go from there.  I have never used a bit on Abby and neither did the folks I got her from.
I love that Bitless Bridle, I was just a bit worried to start her driving without a bit (from what I have been reading)
SO THANKS A BUNCH TO THOSE THAT ANSWERED MY BITLESS DRIVING QUESTIONS!
Marna SD
www.bibledonkeys.com
www.doesmybuttlookbiginthesaddle.com
www.faroutliving.com



adriennewimbush wrote:
I can't put pics on albums, for some reason. I put the album on, (Bitless Driving) but when I try to add pics, it just brings some yahoo updates box and the whole screen goes grey and stops. YET I can exit, and go back?
I can send them to you to put on, if you like!
Adie
 Hi Adie: It would be great if you put pics in a photo album, then all of us can see the things. I can't usually get the photos that are attached as I am on digest. Just let everyone know the title of the photo album so we can find it easier.
Margaret F

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#821 From: "rfairfield12000" <rfairfield12000@...>
Date: Wed Nov 18, 2009 2:46 pm
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Hi Adie:  It worked for me and I'm a complete dunce when it comes to doing these
sort of things.  Before you send those photos try again as I probably will have
trouble getting your photos into the album from my e-mail, but if you can't then
send them and I'll give it a try.  Meanwhile check out my morgan being driven
bitless under Fairfield.

Margaret

#820 From: "rfairfield12000" <rfairfield12000@...>
Date: Wed Nov 18, 2009 2:24 pm
Subject: Re: photos
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before you do that I had better see if I can do it myself, not too computer
literate LOL.  I'll let you know what happens, this will make me put a couple of
pics in the photo album myself, give me a couple of days.

Margaret

--- In bitlessbridle@yahoogroups.com, adriennewimbush <wimballan@...> wrote:
>
> I can't put pics on albums, for some reason. I put the album on,
> (Bitless Driving) but when I try to add pics, it just brings some yahoo
> updates box and the whole screen goes grey and stops. YET I can exit,
> and go back?
>   I can send them to you to put on, if you like!
> Adie
>
>
> >
> >
> > Hi Adie: It would be great if you put pics in a photo album, then all
> > of us can see the things. I can't usually get the photos that are
> > attached as I am on digest. Just let everyone know the title of the
> > photo album so we can find it easier.
> >
> > Margaret F
> >
> >
>

#819 From: adriennewimbush <wimballan@...>
Date: Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:06 am
Subject: Re: re: photos
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I can't put pics on albums, for some reason. I put the album on,
(Bitless Driving) but when I try to add pics, it just brings some yahoo
updates box and the whole screen goes grey and stops. YET I can exit,
and go back?
   I can send them to you to put on, if you like!
Adie


>
>
> Hi Adie: It would be great if you put pics in a photo album, then all
> of us can see the things. I can't usually get the photos that are
> attached as I am on digest. Just let everyone know the title of the
> photo album so we can find it easier.
>
> Margaret F
>
>

#818 From: "rfairfield12000" <rfairfield12000@...>
Date: Tue Nov 17, 2009 7:03 pm
Subject: re: photos
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Hi Adie:  It would be great if you put pics in a photo album, then all of us can
see the things.  I can't usually get the photos that are attached as I am on
digest. Just let everyone know the title of the photo album so we can find it
easier.

Margaret F

#817 From: flugar ijslander <flugar_ijslander@...>
Date: Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:27 am
Subject: Re: BITLESS DRIVINING????
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Hi

i am driving bitless too. My pony was learned with a bit. Directly at the moment i got him he went bitless.
therefore he has lived with a bit for 11 years. So the age doenst matter too ;-)
There was no problem to switch. He walked as before, tho some more relaxation and bigger movements.
I have seen pics somewere on the net with bitless donkys so try it :-) he already know the bridle.

inge

 
kijk ook eens op www.bitloosrijden.nl
 



From: Marna Kazmaier <marna@...>
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Sent: Sun, 15 November, 2009 19:46:22
Subject: [bitlessbridle] BITLESS DRIVINING????

 

I am pretty sure, not too long ago, someone on this list was saying they
drove they equine with a bitless bridle <?>
I am training my donkey to drive. I am ground driving her with just a
halter and it is going very well. I ride her in a Dr. Cook's Bitless
Bridle (and love it).
Soooooooo? If you are driving your equine bitless can you tell me if
your equine were trained with a bit first?
Thanks,
Marna SD
www.doesmybuttlookb iginthesaddle. com
www.bibledonkeys. com
www.workinggoats. com



#816 From: Pam Freeman <ruuhzoo02@...>
Date: Mon Nov 16, 2009 1:10 am
Subject: Re: beautyfull eyes
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Inge-

They are indeed very beautiful pictures.  Thank you for sharing!

Pam in Florida, USA


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Sent: Sun, November 15, 2009 12:57:27 PM
Subject: [bitlessbridle] beautyfull eyes

 

beautyful pictures

http://snipurl. com/t7lnw

inge

 
kijk ook eens op www.bitloosrijden. nl
 




#815 From: "rfairfield12000" <rfairfield12000@...>
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 9:26 pm
Subject: bitless driving
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I drive bitless, I do not ride now and have never ridden bitless, would do so if
I could.  My two morgans that I now drive bitless were both trained to drive
with bits.  It was not a problem to switch them over, they didn't object one bit
and they were fine with the bitless.  I have also driven them both as a pair
bitless.  I use the Dr. Cooks driving bridles as I do use blinkers, but it can
be converted by using blinkerless cheek pieces, Dr.Cooks driving bridles have a
throatlatch which the riding bridles do not.  I do not find that I have less
control with the bitless which I think is the worry of many non converted, it is
just as effective for halts, changes of pace etc.  Of course driving you do use
a lot of verbal commands and of course the whip is an aid too.  But riding would
be no problem I'm sure.  I would recommend looking up Bob Cat Farm. Cathie
trains horses for riding and driving bitless I'm sure you would find her site
interesting.  www.bobcatfarm.com.

Margaret F

#814 From: adriennewimbush <wimballan@...>
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 8:54 pm
Subject: Re: BITLESS DRIVINING????
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Gudday Marna,
        My stallion was trained bitless to drive. He wasn't trained to a
bit first. His bridle is made by my trainer...
Can I attach pics or do I have to make an album?
Adie

>
>
> I am pretty sure, not too long ago, someone on this list was saying they
> drove they equine with a bitless bridle <?>
> I am training my donkey to drive. I am ground driving her with just a
> halter and it is going very well. I ride her in a Dr. Cook's Bitless
> Bridle (and love it).
> Soooooooo? If you are driving your equine bitless can you tell me if
> your equine were trained with a bit first?
> Thanks,
> Marna SD
> www.doesmybuttlookbiginthesaddle.com
> www.bibledonkeys.com
> www.workinggoats.com
>
> _,___

#813 From: Marna Kazmaier <marna@...>
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 6:46 pm
Subject: BITLESS DRIVINING????
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I am pretty sure, not too long ago, someone on this list was saying they
drove they equine with a bitless bridle <?>
I am training my donkey to drive.  I am ground driving her with just a
halter and it is going very well.  I ride her in a Dr. Cook's Bitless
Bridle (and love it).
Soooooooo? If you are driving your equine bitless can you tell me if
your equine were trained with a bit first?
Thanks,
Marna SD
www.doesmybuttlookbiginthesaddle.com
www.bibledonkeys.com
www.workinggoats.com

#812 From: flugar ijslander <flugar_ijslander@...>
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 5:57 pm
Subject: beautyfull eyes
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beautyful pictures

http://snipurl.com/t7lnw

inge

 
kijk ook eens op www.bitloosrijden.nl
 



#809 From: "rfairfield12000" <rfairfield12000@...>
Date: Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:43 pm
Subject: re: article and study on bitless
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I think it was a very positive study, what do others think?  Of course most here
are bitless supporters but it is nice to see the less converted thinking twice
about it.

Margaret F

#808 From: "Anna" <wahpoose2003@...>
Date: Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:46 am
Subject: Equine Science: Assessing bitless bridles for Horses...fyi
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Equine Science Update
Reports from the world of  equine research.
Traditionally, bitted bridles have provided the main means of controlling ridden horses. The metal bit applies focused pressure on  areas of sensitive tissue within the horse's mouth.

Although bitted bridles are widely used and accepted, the need for a bit has been questioned. Indeed, it has been suggested that the bit, far from being essential, may actually cause behavior problems and disease.

According to Dr Robert Cook, Surgery Professor Emeritus at Tuft's University in Massachusetts, the bit is to blame for numerous problems in the horse, including headshaking and upper respiratory obstruction.

For the past ten years Dr Cook has been researching the adverse effects of the bit and the advantages of communicating without using a bit. He developed a new type of bitless bridle that differs from hackamores and other traditional bitless bridles in being painless and incorporating a crossunder principle.
The bridle (marketed as the "BitlessBridle") works by applying mild pressure across the bridge of the nose, less under the chin, even less  along the cheek, and least of all at the poll. "Its action can best be described as a benevolent headlock or whole head hug" he explains.

Is the bitless bridle as effective as Dr Cook would have us believe?  Two small-scale studies have looked at how horses behave and perform in bitless or bitted bridles.

Jessica Quick and Dr Amanda Warren-Smith compared the response of four 2-year old horses to foundation training. The work was performed at the Orange Campus Equine Centre of Charles Sturt University in New South Wales, Australia. Results of the study were presented at the International Society for Equitation Science Conference in Dublin and published in the Journal of Veterinary Behavior.

The researchers looked at whether two horses wearing a crossunder bitless bridle responded differently to two horses wearing a bridle with standard full-sized Fulmer (full-cheek) snaffle when undergoing foundation training (i.e., first-time bridling, long-reining and riding). The study was done under field conditions over a period of some weeks, as part of an educational course.

They found that the two horses wearing the bitted bridle showed more chewing and mouth opening than did those wearing the bitless bridle. This was present throughout the training process, but became less frequent as training progressed.

Horses wearing the bitted bridle did more headshaking during bridling and long reining. However, when ridden, the horses wearing the bitless bridle showed more headshaking.

During long-reining, horses wearing the bitted bridle had a higher  heart rate and heart rate variability. They also took more steps before stopping after being given the stimulus to halt.

The bitted horses showed less head lowering during long reining than the bitless horses.

The researchers caution against drawing firm conclusions from the work, as the low number of animals may have affected the outcome. However, they say that "horses wearing bitless bridles performed at least as well as, if not better than, those in bitted bridles."  They suggest that the use of bitless bridles could be beneficial and warrants further investigation with more horses in a range of disciplines.

Dr Cook set up the second controlled study at the Certified Horsemanship Association's International Conference in October 2008 at the Kentucky Horse Park in Lexington Kentucky, USA. The results, co-authored by Professor Daniel Mills at Lincoln University,  have been reported in the Equine Veterinary Journal. Video recordings of the 32 minute experiment are available at
http://www.bitlessbridle.com/dbID/420.html

Four Certified Horsemanship Association riding instructors were each allocated a mature riding school horse, previously unknown to them, which they rode twice through a four minute, 27- phase exercise test. The first time they used a bitted (jointed snaffle) bridle. They then repeated the test using a crossunder bitless bridle. Each phase was judged using a 10-point scale. None of the horses had been ridden in a bitless bridle before and only two of the riders had had previous experience of the bitless bridle.

An experienced and independent dressage judge marked the tests.

All four horses accepted the bitless bridle without hesitation. The mean score when bitted was 3.7. In the first four minutes of using the bitless bridle, rider's improved their scores by an average of 75% to a mean of 6.4.

Could the improved performance have been due to the horses being better warmed up for the second test? Unlikely, says Dr Cook, as all horses had been in regular work throughout a long day. Maybe the horses were more familiar with the test the second time around. Again, the authors consider this unlikely as the extent of the improvement was too marked.  They also point out that the video shows the horses were more alert & happier when wearing the bitless bridle.  A statistical analysis of the results provided " strong evidence to suggest that the results are not random."

Drs Cook & Mills believe that the bit can be a welfare and safety problem for both horse and rider. They urge equestrian organizations that currently mandate use of a bit for competitions to review their rules.


For more details see:

"Preliminary investigations of horses (Equus caballus) responses to different bridles during foundation training."
JS Quick, AK Warren-Smith
Journal of Veterinary Behavior (2009) 4, 169 - 176

"Preliminary study of jointed snaffle vs crossunder bitless bridles: Quantified comparison of behaviour in four horses."
WR Cook, DS Mills.
Equine Vet Journal (2009) 41,
doi 10.2746/042516409X472150
Written by Mark Andrews. Published online 25.10.09.
© Copyright Equine Science Update  2009
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