I have had similar issues. I don't know who enforces
the bikes-only signs, but evidently no great effort is
spared to that end.

--- "c.gaian" <c.gaian@...> wrote:

> I am an avid rider on the south bay bike path from
> south redondo to
> the santa monica pier. I usually leave at daybreak
> (around 6:15 DST )
> and return around 9:00am. I ride only week days and
> I wondered who is
> legally responsible for the path. Is it LA County,
> or the cities that
> it goes thru. I am tired of having to go around
> joggers, joggers with
> dogs, walkers, double wide baby strollers etc. I
> have fallen twice
> already in the last 4 years and the entire bike path
> clearly states
> "bikes only". Except for Hermosa Beach. I have
> written to the
> Manhattan Beach city attorney and got no response.
> The worst offenders
> are Redondo and Manhattan. Does anyone know who I
> can complain to, and
> has anyone else had any similar problems??????
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>


Terry McIntyre &lt;terrymcintyre@...&gt;

“Wherever is found what is called a paternal government, there is found state
education. It has been discovered that the best way to insure implicit obedience
is to commence tyranny in the nursery.”

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I am an avid rider on the south bay bike path from south redondo to
the santa monica pier. I usually leave at daybreak (around 6:15 DST )
and return around 9:00am. I ride only week days and I wondered who is
legally responsible for the path. Is it LA County, or the cities that
it goes thru. I am tired of having to go around joggers, joggers with
dogs, walkers, double wide baby strollers etc. I have fallen twice
already in the last 4 years and the entire bike path clearly states
"bikes only". Except for Hermosa Beach. I have written to the
Manhattan Beach city attorney and got no response. The worst offenders
are Redondo and Manhattan. Does anyone know who I can complain to, and
has anyone else had any similar problems??????

Sorry for the spam, everyone.  Someone was abusing a backdoor in
posting group calendar entries with reminders.

I did some sleuthing and took care of it tonight.  Tracked down the
poster and banned him from the group, and tightened security on the
calendar to not allow posts by non-moderators (there is no option for
moderated posts yet).

For those who care: The Yahoo helpdesk was completely useless, didn't
look into the problem, so I took matters into my own hands.

The Pasadena ARTRide is a recreational social event open to all skill levels. The ride will begin at One Colorado and wind through the streets of Pasadena, stopping at various at institutions. Participants will have time to explore exhibits and listen to music at each stop. The pace of the ride is relaxed and easy, and beginning bicyclists should feel free to join the ride. The ride is lead by experienced cyclists, and includes a sweep rider to ensure the group stays together.

ARTRide is a part of Urban Expeditions, a monthly ride series of community-focused bicycle rides aimed at getting people out of their cars and onto their bikes for a cleaner, greener city. The Urban Expeditions series is made possible in part by REI. For more information, visit bikenow.org .

Who: CICLE and you!

When:
Meet: Friday, 14 March 2008 at 6:00 PM. The ride departs at 6:30 PM Sharp.

Where:
 One Colorado Courtyard. One Colorado is one city block bounded by Fair Oaks, Colorado Boulevard, DeLacey and Union Street in Old Pasadena.
Map: www.onecolorado.com…

What to Bring:
A bicycle in good running order (please have your bike inspected and tuned at least once a year at your local bike shop), lights for night riding, a bike lock. All participants under 18 must wear a helmet. Children under age 9 should be on a tag-a-long, bike trailer, tandem, or other safe child-carrying device. Supervised parking is available, however each rider is asked to bring his or her own bicycle lock.

Friendly Streets : Healthy Body : Happy Planet
We believe that our cities can be places that support an overall high quality of life--where people can enjoy clean air, calm and friendly streets, and closely connected and diverse communities.

Pasadena ARTRide Hightlights:

One Colorado
Armory DigitalForum
Bruce Yonemoto — Recent Videos

Norton Simon
Maillol's Miniatures and Tales of the Blue Lord

Pasadena Museum of History
The Purse and The Person

Pasadena Library
Celebrating Green
Kick-off St. Patrick's Day Weekend by exploring "green" with Irish Dance lessons; plein air paintings exhibition of Pasadena's Arroyo Seco by local artists from California Art Club; theatre presentation of Wizard of Oz on "Green Brick Road;" green crafts for families; displays by Pasadena's Adaptive Recreation and Pasadena The Green City.

Pasadena Museum of California Art
A Seed of Modernism
The Art Students League of Los Angeles

Pacific Asia Museum
Chinaman's Chance:
Views of the Chinese American Experience

For more information about ARTNight visit:
www.artnightpasadena.org

About CICLE: C.I.C.L.E. (Cyclists Inciting Change thru Live Exchange) is based in Los Angeles and works to promote the bicycle as a viable, healthy, and sustainable transportation choice. C.I.C.L.E. is a project of Social and Environmental Entrepreneurs (SEE), a non-profit public charity exempt from federal income tax under Section 501 (c) 3 of the Internal Revenue Code. Visit www.cicle.org for more information.

Thanks very much for the info!!  Any particular hazards or unique
obstacles I should be aware of?  Do I get PV Blvd at the top of
the "ramp" at the very end of the bike path?

Stephen


--- In bikepaths@yahoogroups.com, "James" <lbclimber@...> wrote:
>
> I would say PV blvd to pv drive north to anaheim st. to the la river
> bike path south to golden shore to shoreline dr.
> >
> > Need to get from the end of the bike path in Torrance/PV to the
bike
> > path in Long Beach.  What is the best/safest/easiest route to
bridge
> > this gap?
> >
>

I would say PV blvd to pv drive north to anaheim st. to the la river
bike path south to golden shore to shoreline dr.
>
> Need to get from the end of the bike path in Torrance/PV to the bike
> path in Long Beach.  What is the best/safest/easiest route to bridge
> this gap?
>

I'm looking for people to bike with midweek on the south bay bikepath
and ballona creek path. I usually ride from my place in el segundo
either south to PV or north the the dead end in Pacific Pallisades. James

Need to get from the end of the bike path in Torrance/PV to the bike
path in Long Beach.  What is the best/safest/easiest route to bridge
this gap?

For what it's worth, Kristofor says that LA is only responsible
for Ballona up to Lincoln Blvd.  After that, he referred me to
Culver City:

Culver City:   John Rivera 	 (310) 253-5616
john.rivera@...

   Haroon Said wrote:
> Alma Fuentes is no longer the Bike co-coordinator, the new guys are
>
>
>
> Kristofor Norberg
>
> Los Angeles County Department of Public Works
>
> (626) 458-3939
>
> knorberg@... <mailto:knorberg@...>
>
>
>
> and
>
>
>
> “Yusuf, Abu" AYUSUF@...
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:* bikepaths@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bikepaths@yahoogroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Richard Burrows
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 26, 2008 1:49 PM
> *To:* bikepaths@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [bikepaths] Re: Complaint about Ballona chainlink gates
>
>
>
> The last contact I have for getting maintance done on the SGR trail is
> afuentes@... <mailto:afuentes@...>.
> I believe all the LA county bike trails are maintained by the LA County
> Department of Public works.
>
>              Rich
> ===========
>
> On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 7:25 PM, Dan Hontz <hontzd@...
> <mailto:hontzd@...>> wrote:
>
> I'd like to know the agency in charge, too - more so that I know whom
> we contact about cleaning up the path after storms, and, longer term,
> getting some lights out there. Because it cuts through a bunch of
> cities, I'm not sure whose jurisdiction it's in. Anyone know?
>
>
> --- In bikepaths@yahoogroups.com <mailto:bikepaths%40yahoogroups.com>,
> Dan Mick <dmick@...> wrote:
>>
>>  So, I rode along Ballona Creek today, and had to hop a gate
>>  at probably-Duquesne, because some fat-butt didn't get out there
>>  and open it before 2PM on a completely sunny rain-free Monday.
>>  (It must be nice to work for the city and not give a damn.)
>>
>>  How do I find out which agency is responsible for that gate so I can
>>  complain? This is probably four times this has happened to me.
>>
>
>
>

Mark Panitz wrote:
> now are we talking a big gate (like to prevent someone
> from entering the bike path or just the lower
> gate (where you can just lift your bike over the small
> gate (like a hump?

6-7' high.  locked with padlock and chain, from concrete wall
to chainlink on channel side of path.  Impassable without
serious effort (and, really, one person on each side to really
get bikes over).

Even when you got over the gate the county wasn't making it easy.
There were two crews working on the bike path Monday. One was
cleaning the trash from the storm. Another looked like it was doing
graffiti removal. Both almost had the path totally blocked. One guy
had his pickup truck door open while he talked on his cell phone.
This completely blocked the path until he noticed me waiting. As far
as I can tell the county considers the path a maintenance access road
and doesn't worry about safety and access for anyone else. I've never
seen them cone off their equipment or flag the path when they create
a single lane around their trucks.

Don Hayashi

I think you are referring to the gates West of Overland Blvd in Culver
City. I think they installed them to herd the kids that use the
pedestrian bridge there. They close them during storms so the kids can
use the bridge but are discouraged from walking along the bike path
when the water is high. I make it a point to never ride the path there
when the middle school lets out at 2:20 pm. The boys at that age seem
to need to prove themselves by harassing the bicyclists as they pass.
Plus they are not looking and don't expect anyone to be riding through.

Don Hayashi

--- In bikepaths@yahoogroups.com, Dan Mick <dmick@...> wrote:
>
> Anthony So wrote:
> > I was surprised they opened the gates at all!  I always thought that
> > they were closed off to limit wildlife and other feral things on our
> > streets from overtaking the bikepaths.
>
> Um...I mean the gates across the bike path, preventing bicycles
> from traversing it...
>

now are we talking a big gate (like to prevent someone
from entering the bike path or just the lower
gate (where you can just lift your bike over the small
gate (like a hump?

Anthony So wrote:
> I was surprised they opened the gates at all!  I always thought that
> they were closed off to limit wildlife and other feral things on our
> streets from overtaking the bikepaths.

Um...I mean the gates across the bike path, preventing bicycles
from traversing it...

I'd like to know the agency in charge, too - more so that I know whom
we contact about cleaning up the path after storms, and, longer term,
getting some lights out there. Because it cuts through a bunch of
cities, I'm not sure whose jurisdiction it's in. Anyone know?

--- In bikepaths@yahoogroups.com, Dan Mick <dmick@...> wrote:
>
> So, I rode along Ballona Creek today, and had to hop a gate
> at probably-Duquesne, because some fat-butt didn't get out there
> and open it before 2PM on a completely sunny rain-free Monday.
> (It must be nice to work for the city and not give a damn.)
>
> How do I find out which agency is responsible for that gate so I can
> complain?  This is probably four times this has happened to me.
>

So, I rode along Ballona Creek today, and had to hop a gate
at probably-Duquesne, because some fat-butt didn't get out there
and open it before 2PM on a completely sunny rain-free Monday.
(It must be nice to work for the city and not give a damn.)

How do I find out which agency is responsible for that gate so I can
complain?  This is probably four times this has happened to me.

http://www.lacity.org/ita/urldoc2869.pdf

The City of Los Angeles is updating the Bicycle Master Plan,
which will provide transportation improvements for the bicycling
community.

The public is invited to attend a workshop to provide input on
bicycle policies, facility improvements and other related issues.
Workshops are scheduled throughout Los Angeles, at four (4)
neighborhood locations, during the months of February and
March 2008.

Refreshments will be served, so please join us at one or all of
the workshops. If you cannot attend the workshop, you can visit
the website at www.labikeplan.org.

For more information, contact the City Bicycle Coordinator at
Michelle.Mowery@... 213-972-4962 or City Planning Associate
Jordann.Turner@... 213-978-1379

Central/South Los Angeles
Date: Saturday February 16, 2008
Location: Expo Center Swim Stadium-Community Room
Address: 3980 S. Menlo Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90037
Time: 10am-12pm

West Los Angeles
Date: Wednesday February 20, 2008
Location: Felicia Mahood Multi Purpose Center
Address: 11338 Santa Monica Blvd., Los Angeles, CA 90037
Time: 6:30pm-8:30pm

Valley Area
Date: Wednesday February 27, 2008
Location: Marvin Braude-San Fernando Constituent Services Center,
Conference Room 1B
Address: 6262 Van Nuys Blvd, Van Nuys, CA 91401
Time: 6:30pm-8:30pm

Harbor Area
Date: Saturday March 1, 2008
Location: Banning's Landing Community Center
Address: 100 E. Water Street, Wilmington, CA 90744
Time: 10am-12pm

The Green Resolutions Ride Has Been Postponed

Due to the unpredictable weather situation, we're choosing to postpone
The Green Resolutions Ride, and save it for a nice warm and sunny day.

New dates will be posted soon.

Enjoy the rain, and have a warm and cozy weekend!

Don't know about The Green Resolutions Ride? Visit www.BikeNow.org

Have you already broken your New Year's Resolutions? Now is your
chance to pedal into a resolution you can keep! Join C.I.C.L.E. and
friends as we explore the Silver Lake and Los Feliz neighborhoods by
bicycle in search of green and sustainable living ideas on our Urban
Expeditions "Green Resolutions Ride".

The Green Resolutions Ride meets on Saturday January 26, at 10:00 AM
at the Silver Lake Recreation Center Park. The first stop on the
Expedition route is the Silver Lake Farmer's Market where riders will
meet "Farmer Eddie" and become acquainted with reasons for supporting
local farmer's markets. From there, we'll quickly cruise over to the
Eco-Home and embark on a self-guided tour of this ongoing living
research center, followed by a group Q&A with the homestead owner. On
the way back, we'll swing by the Bicycle Kitchen and introduce people
to this energetic community-run bike repair space, and meet with some
of the "cooks" that help create bike-magic at the Kitchen.

The Green Resolutions ride is open to everyone at no charge, and
families are encouraged to participate in the ride. Rides are short,
leisurely paced, and perfect for the beginning rider. Bikes should be
in good running order, and all participants under 18 must wear a
helmet. Children under age 9 should be on a tag-a-long, bike trailer,
tandem, or other safe child-carrying device.

The Green Resolutions Ride:

-No Charge, open to all
-Registration begins at 10:00am and ride departs at 10:30am
-Meet at the Park next to the
SILVERLAKE RECREATION CENTER
1850 West Silver Lake Drive
Los Angeles, CA 90026

-Rain, or threat of rain cancels the ride

-For more information visit: www.BikeNow.org or call 323-478-0060.

About Urban Expeditions:
Urban Expeditions is a year-long series of monthly community-focused
bicycle rides, sponsored by REI and aimed at getting people out of
their cars and onto their bikes for a cleaner, greener city.

Check out the handsome flyer here under FILES:
     biking_nativity_ltrsz_08

Lupe will be posting a map for this ride saturday night

And yes, that flyer will be available here.[--> see you at the LA River Center
Sunday at 10 am?????-->
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NOTE:  the famous Coffee Gallery PANCAKE BREAKFAST will be happening; check
posted messages/calendar for details.
============
From: "Lupe Vela" <lmvela@...>
>To: <velaville@...>
>Date: January 03, 2008 02:37:20 PM PST
>Subject: Re: ANNUAL NACIMIENTO TOUR 08  January 6, 2008
>
hi all!
>
>Here is some information on the Sunday Ride!
>
>The Charles Lummis Home will be one of our delightful pitstops:
>music, pan de rosca, artist nacimientos, and refreshments!
>The ride is 18 easy miles with frequent stops.  Bring  friends,
>significant others, and family.  The bike map will be online Saturday
>evening.
>
>the ride is cancelled if it rains Saturday night.
>
>Sunday, January 6th (Fun Ride) - The 8th Annual Nacimiento Tour
>·     Location: Los Angeles River and Gardens Center, 570 W. Avenue
>26, Los Angeles, 90065 at 11 am, with registration opening at 10 am.
>
>
>see attached flyer  under FILES --

     biking_nativity_ltrsz_08
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>?
>

This series is a little different than my last.  Sunday, I used a
helmet mounted digicam and the ride goes through Heartwell Park in
Long Beach, then South on the San Gabriel River Trail to Marina
Drive, by the Farmer's Market, past Marine Stadium and along the
beach path to the Long Beach Yacht Club at which point my camera
battery dies.

medium res & downloadable:
Part 1 of 5: http://www.veoh.com/videos/v1618500mzSbCXBc
Part 2 of 5: http://www.veoh.com/videos/v1618894jWE863R4
Part 3 of 5: http://www.veoh.com/videos/v1619340ayGAwNEG
Part 4 of 5: http://www.veoh.com/videos/v1619778RZpezphn
Part 5 of 5: http://www.veoh.com/videos/v161979088fCeFED

fair resolution:
Part 1 of 5: http://youtube.com/watch?v=eOyXSEb0kp0
Part 2 of 5: http://youtube.com/watch?v=IUvl_LTkSvw
Part 3 of 5: http://youtube.com/watch?v=tKM7OQwIm9c
Part 4 of 5: http://youtube.com/watch?v=BZsA8kEyxns
Part 5 of 5: http://youtube.com/watch?v=HFz9Wk_H-18

Cheers,  Jonathan

Hello all,

You are invited to join C.I.C.L.E.'s Holiday Toys and Mittens Ride
that will benefit Hathaway-Sycamores Child and Family Services.

Meet at REI Arcadia at 10:30 AM on Saturday,December 1st, for a
fun-filled and family friendly day. The relaxed-paced ride will wind
through the neighborhoods of Arcadia and Monrovia, and will include
stops for toy pick-ups at participating merchants.  Enjoy holiday
tunes and free yummy baked goods from Scratch Cookies and Bakery.  All
toy and clothing donations should be delivered new and unwrapped.

Additional ride information is included below. Please distribute this
information widely. For more information visit: www.BikeNow.org

Thank You!


For Immediate Release
Press Contact:  Liz Elliott
Contact Information:  323.478.0060, info@...

Arcadia, CA - San Gabriel Valley families are invited to cruise into
the holiday spirit on Saturday, December 1, 2007 for the Holiday Toys
and Mittens Ride. The Toys and Mittens Ride kicks-off the new Urban
Expeditions program, a year-long series of monthly community-focused
bicycle rides presented by Cyclists Inciting Change through Live
Exchange (CICLE), and sponsored by R.E.I., that encourages residents
to explore their neighborhoods on two-wheels.

The Toys and Mittens ride will gather toys and warm articles of
clothing from local businesses that currently are collecting much
needed winter items for families in need.  Each year, the
Hathaway-Sycamores Child and Family Services gives these toys and warm
layers to local families and children. Drop by Helen's Cycles Arcadia,
Monrovia Coffee Company, Stan's Monrovia Bikes, or 24 Hour Fitness
Arcadia now through November 30, 2007 to donate toys, warm gloves,
hats, and socks to support the Toys and Mittens Ride.

Join the Toys and Mittens ride at REI Arcadia at 10:30 AM on Saturday,
December 1st, for a fun-filled and family friendly day. The
relaxed-paced ride will wind through the neighborhoods of Arcadia and
Monrovia, and will include stops for toy pick-ups at participating
merchants.  Enjoy holiday tunes and free yummy baked goods from
Scratch Cookies and Bakery.  All toy and clothing donations should be
delivered new and unwrapped.

The Toys and Mittens Ride is FREE. Registration begins at 10:30am and
ride departs at 11am.  Meet at REI Arcadia: 214 N. Santa Anita Ave.,
Arcadia, CA, 91006. For more information visit: www.BikeNow.org or
call 323-478-0060.

About C.I.C.L.E.
Cyclists Inciting Change thru Live Exchange (CICLE) is a Project of
Social and Environmental Entrepreneurs (SEE), a 501(c)(3) non-profit,
and works to promote the bicycle as a viable and sustainable choice
for everyday transportation.  C.I.C.L.E organized the inaugural "Urban
Bicycle Commuter Expo" May 2007 in Pasadena, which focused upon Urban
Bicycling as a means of transportation. Expo successfully conjoined
bike enthusiasts, bicycle advocates, bike shops, private businesses,
City Government, and other related groups in an open-air historic
shopping district, to celebrate "all things bicycle".

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