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Re: [bikepaths] bike path laws

I just want to clear up one thing in the previous
post.
I did not complained to the park rangers of Balboa
Park about the Bikes Only sign on the Bike Path. I
complained about the pedestrian, joggers, etc., on the
bike path, and then they told me about the following
law, and then took the sign down. I never complained
about the Bikes Only sign on the Bike Path.



--- DocDave <jurassicdoctor@...> wrote:

> Is there an adequate pedestrian path adjacent to the
> bike path on the South Bay Bike Path? Otherwise
> pedestrians are allowed on bike paths.
>
> California Vehicle Code 21966. No pedestrian shall
> proceed along a bicycle path or lane where there is
> an
> adjacent adequate pedestrian facility.
>
> Otherwise the prohibition is only for standing still
> or loitering on the bike path:
>
> California Vehicle Code 21211. (a) No person shall
> stop, stand, sit, or loiter upon any class I
> bikeway,
> as defined in subdivision (a) of Section 890.4 of
> the
> Streets and Highways Code, or any other public or
> private bicycle path or trail, if the stopping,
> standing, sitting, or loitering impedes or blocks
> the
> normal and reasonable movement of any bicyclist. (b)
> No person shall place or park any bicycle, vehicle,
> or
> any other object upon any bikeway or bicycle path or
> trail, as specified in subdivision (a), which
> impedes
> or blocks the normal and reasonable movement of any
> bicyclist unless the placement or parking is
> necessary
> for safe operation or is otherwise in compliance
> with
> the law. (c) This section does not apply to drivers
> or
> owners of utility or public utility vehicles, as
> provided in Section 22512. (d) This section does not
> apply to owners or drivers of vehicles who make
> brief
> stops while engaged in the delivery of newspapers to
> customers along the person's route. (e) This section
> does not apply to the driver or owner of a rubbish
> or
> garbage truck while actually engaged in the
> collection
> of rubbish or garbage within a business or residence
> district if the front turn signal lamps at each side
> of the vehicle are being flashed simultaneously and
> the rear turn signal lamps at each side of the
> vehicle
> are being flashed simultaneously.
>
>
> When I complained about the Bikes Only signs on the
> Bike paths in Balboa Park, Los Angeles, the park
> rangers promptly took down the Bikes Only signs.
>
>
>
>
> --- terry mcintyre <terrymcintyre@...> wrote:
>
> > I have had similar issues. I don't know who
> enforces
> > the bikes-only signs, but evidently no great
> effort
> > is
> > spared to that end.
> >
> > --- "c.gaian" <c.gaian@...> wrote:
> >
> > > I am an avid rider on the south bay bike path
> from
> > > south redondo to
> > > the santa monica pier. I usually leave at
> daybreak
> > > (around 6:15 DST )
> > > and return around 9:00am. I ride only week days
> > and
> > > I wondered who is
> > > legally responsible for the path. Is it LA
> County,
> > > or the cities that
> > > it goes thru. I am tired of having to go around
> > > joggers, joggers with
> > > dogs, walkers, double wide baby strollers etc. I
> > > have fallen twice
> > > already in the last 4 years and the entire bike
> > path
> > > clearly states
> > > "bikes only". Except for Hermosa Beach. I have
> > > written to the
> > > Manhattan Beach city attorney and got no
> response.
> > > The worst offenders
> > > are Redondo and Manhattan. Does anyone know who
> I
> > > can complain to, and
> > > has anyone else had any similar problems??????
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > Terry McIntyre &lt;terrymcintyre@...&gt;
> >
> > “Wherever is found what is called a paternal
> > government, there is found state education. It has
> > been discovered that the best way to insure
> implicit
> > obedience is to commence tyranny in the nursery.”
> >
> > Benjamin Disraeli, Speech in the House of Commons
> > [June 15, 1874]
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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I am an avid rider on the south bay bike path from south redondo to the santa monica pier. I usually leave at daybreak (around 6:15 DST ) and return around...
c.gaian
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Apr 4, 2008
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I have had similar issues. I don't know who enforces the bikes-only signs, but evidently no great effort is spared to that end. ... Terry McIntyre...
terry mcintyre
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Apr 4, 2008
7:32 am

The Los Angeles Bike Path Co-Ordinator is (Copied from previous post # 1058): Kristofor Norberg Los Angeles County Department of Public Works (626) 458-3939 ...
R. Burrows
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Apr 5, 2008
4:58 am

Is there an adequate pedestrian path adjacent to the bike path on the South Bay Bike Path? Otherwise pedestrians are allowed on bike paths. California Vehicle...
DocDave
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Apr 6, 2008
3:15 am

I just want to clear up one thing in the previous post. I did not complained to the park rangers of Balboa Park about the Bikes Only sign on the Bike Path. I ...
DocDave
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Apr 6, 2008
6:20 am

The Royal Oaks bike path in Duarte is labeled as a "multi use" path even though it is on the maps as a class 1 bike path. Riding this path is fine when the...
R. Burrows
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Apr 6, 2008
8:17 pm

The reality is bike paths are used by joggers, walkers and homeless. The police are not going to enforce anything because it doesn't make sense to ticket a...
Haroon Said
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Apr 6, 2008
11:27 pm

... I don't understand why not, and I've certainly been ticketed for jaywalking (despite the complete safety of it, unlike occupying space on a bike path)....
Dan Mick
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Apr 8, 2008
3:57 am

I think the important part of these past few postings on this topic are that the public CAN be on those paths, as long as they do not "overly impede" the ...
Craig Braquet
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Apr 8, 2008
6:09 am

Simple, a city traffic cop on the beat can give you jaywalking ticket, cause that his job as he saw you breaking the law. No cop patrols the bike path, unless...
Haroon Said
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Apr 8, 2008
6:09 am

... That sounds like an argument, but it's not "doesn't make sense". Also: yes, there are police on bike paths, both in autos/SUVs and on bicycles, and...
Dan Mick
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Apr 9, 2008
1:43 am

Personally I have almost never seen police on the bike path; I ride Rio Hondo, LARIO and SGRT at least once a week. The only time I saw police was when they...
Haroon Said
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Apr 9, 2008
7:24 am

I do believe it is against the regulations to be a pedestrian on all bike paths where posted signs and alternate facilities exist. Many parts of the trail do...
Alex Kenefick
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Apr 8, 2008
6:49 pm

I think when OP said he say he saw police on the bike path they were talking about the Venice Beach bike path in Venice not LARIO or other simlair bike paths...
Mark Panitz
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Apr 10, 2008
4:12 am

I've occasionally seen LAPD motorcycle and once in a great while patrol cars on the South Bay Bike path from Marina del Rey to Manhattan Beach. Sometimes LAPD...
Don Hayashi
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Apr 11, 2008
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