Avram wrote
> I'm planning the above ride for October 24th with some
> local club members ...
> find out if we can still go through Ancramdale without
> hitting the bigger hills? Can we go up 22 from
> Millerton and then West to connect to the ride up to Ancramdale?

Makes sense to want to ride thru some nice (and hilly) farm country
while avoiding the bigger hills. I don't know much about your (and
your club's) approach to leading group rides -- and the Bike Hudson
Valley website routes were not designed to be used for group rides.

So I'm glad to hear that you're thinking about modifying the route
for your own purposes. I'm also glad that designing and sharing
routes has gotten a lot easier since I started putting them on the
web -- like Tom Ervolina points out -- maybe you can get some more
route ideas from other websites.

How hilly? Usually the easiest way to figure that is to use topo map
software -- or to actually ride the route with some kind of altitude-
difference sensor/recorder.

Rt 22? My memory is that the section north of Millerton in Dutchess
county did not have much of a shoulder, while the section between the
Columbia county southern border and Copake had a significantly wider
shoulder -- which influenced my design of Variation A of the Copake
Falls - Ancramdale route on Bike Hudson Valley - (which has some
ideas for roads thru Ancramdale less hilly than the 58-mile route).

> Would love to talk with you by phone at your convenience.

Sure, I much prefer talking to typing ... Send a phone number or two
and good times to call to this contact info:
http://roberts-1.com/b/c/07g

Ken