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These propositions come from the NCAA coaches. My guess is that they want to see the rules become closer to each other.
No, they can't leave the rules alone. How else would they be able to make money off their rule books and support PAVO?
For current referees that work both USAV & NCAA, the scoring change will be welcomed. I am not so sure about the proposed ball handling.
From what I've seen, the more experienced DI & DII coaches and most of the DIII coaches will reject this directive because of their traditional way of thinking how a setter should be setting. The current FIVB and NCAA Men's view is that if a player makes a spectacular running play to set the ball, let it go. I have seen coaches who want to call every miniscule mishandle because they want an advantage with the idea that they technically trained their setter better than an athletic setter who can make a seemingly impossible play. A lot of these misconceptions about ball handling also result from "automatic" calls by the referees with body/foot position. If you are looking at the feet/body, then you are making assumptions about the hands (while you are not looking at them).
The only rule change I would have like to seen is that ALL sites hosting the NCAA playoffs be required to have enough room for the pursuit rule. It seems unfair to be able to play with this rule the whole year and then go into a facility that does not allow it.
Roger O.
> To: bigtenvb@yahoogroups.com
> From: ruffda_55108@...
> Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 19:13:19 +0000
> Subject: [bigtenvb] Bad ideas running rampant
>
> Just goes to show you what a committee can do if they really put
> their heart into it. Who was asking for these changes and why? Can't
> they just leave the game alone for a while?
>
>
> http://www.ncaa.org/wps/ncaa?ContentID=162613
>
>
>
> The NCAA Women's Volleyball Rules Committee proposed a scoring format
> that will change the winning score for games one through four from 30
> points to 25 points, which will be more consistent with national and
> international match formats.
>
> All rules change proposals must be approved by the NCAA Playing Rules
> Oversight Panel (PROP), which will review all recommendations at its
> next meeting February 27. The 25-point format is used in all rule
> codes, including the National Federation of State High Schools. The
> fifth set, if necessary, will still be to 15 points.
>
> "The 25-point sets will add an intensity and excitement level to our
> matches that has been missing," said Marcia Alterman, the committee's
> secretary-rules editor. "I believe that players, coaches and fans
> will agree that the critical nature of every point will emphasize the
> need for focus and consistency to every play."
>
> In addition, the committee recommended changing the term game to set
> and reducing substitutions from 15 to 12, primarily because of the
> change to 25-point sets. The format for media timeouts will remain
> the same.
>
> Additionally, a new ball handling directive, which guides officials
> to be less severe when judging second team contacts, was proposed.
> The committee envisions that this directive will not only increase
> consistency in officiating calls, but also assist the growth of the
> game by no longer punishing extraordinary and highly athletic plays.
>
> "There has been a demand for more consistency regarding the referees'
> ball handling decisions for several years across all divisions as
> well as regions of the country," said Kerry Carr, chair of the
> committee and head women's volleyball coach at the University of
> Pennsylvania. "I think the game will benefit from a decrease in the
> whistles that stop a rally due to a marginal infraction on ball
> handling, especially when there's been a great athletic attempt to
> keep the ball alive."
>
> The committee, comprised of Divisions I, II and III coaches and
> administrators, gave the topic of event management and facility
> expectations serious consideration. After much discussion, the group
> recommended adding preferred facility specifications to the NCAA
> WOMEN'S VOLLEYBALL RULES AND INTERPRETATIONS. In addition, Rule 1.1
> was changed to state that all playable areas must be visible to team
> members and officials.
>
> The committee also reviewed various types of net systems available,
> which are becoming more diverse, as manufacturers seek alternatives
> for facilities that cannot accommodate the traditional sleeve system.
> The committee will continue to research minimal net and pole
> requirements that maintain the integrity of the game while providing
> choices for various facilities.
>
> As technology continues to impact volleyball, the committee is
> monitoring methods used to gather data during a match and broadcast
> matches to the public. The committee began discussions on the use of
> instant replay and its impact on volleyball.
>
> A recommendation from the NCAA Division I Women's Volleyball
> Committee was reviewed to amend Rule 18 to include an option for
> relocating the first referee to the bench side of the net for the
> NCAA championships. ESPN has made this request to enhance the
> television production of the championship. No action was taken on the
> request at this time, but continued research and consideration are
> planned in the near future.
>
> The volleyball rules book was slated to move to a two-year cycle
> starting with the 2009 publication. The committee is forwarding a
> request to PROP to start its two-year cycle with the 2010 book. This
> will provide a better cycle to consider those rule changes made by
> Federation of International Volleyball (FIVB) after the 2008 Beijing
> Olympics.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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No, they can't leave the rules alone. How else would they be able to make money off their rule books and support PAVO?
For current referees that work both USAV & NCAA, the scoring change will be welcomed. I am not so sure about the proposed ball handling.
From what I've seen, the more experienced DI & DII coaches and most of the DIII coaches will reject this directive because of their traditional way of thinking how a setter should be setting. The current FIVB and NCAA Men's view is that if a player makes a spectacular running play to set the ball, let it go. I have seen coaches who want to call every miniscule mishandle because they want an advantage with the idea that they technically trained their setter better than an athletic setter who can make a seemingly impossible play. A lot of these misconceptions about ball handling also result from "automatic" calls by the referees with body/foot position. If you are looking at the feet/body, then you are making assumptions about the hands (while you are not looking at them).
The only rule change I would have like to seen is that ALL sites hosting the NCAA playoffs be required to have enough room for the pursuit rule. It seems unfair to be able to play with this rule the whole year and then go into a facility that does not allow it.
Roger O.
> To: bigtenvb@yahoogroups.com
> From: ruffda_55108@...
> Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 19:13:19 +0000
> Subject: [bigtenvb] Bad ideas running rampant
>
> Just goes to show you what a committee can do if they really put
> their heart into it. Who was asking for these changes and why? Can't
> they just leave the game alone for a while?
>
>
> http://www.ncaa.org/wps/ncaa?ContentID=162613
>
>
>
> The NCAA Women's Volleyball Rules Committee proposed a scoring format
> that will change the winning score for games one through four from 30
> points to 25 points, which will be more consistent with national and
> international match formats.
>
> All rules change proposals must be approved by the NCAA Playing Rules
> Oversight Panel (PROP), which will review all recommendations at its
> next meeting February 27. The 25-point format is used in all rule
> codes, including the National Federation of State High Schools. The
> fifth set, if necessary, will still be to 15 points.
>
> "The 25-point sets will add an intensity and excitement level to our
> matches that has been missing," said Marcia Alterman, the committee's
> secretary-rules editor. "I believe that players, coaches and fans
> will agree that the critical nature of every point will emphasize the
> need for focus and consistency to every play."
>
> In addition, the committee recommended changing the term game to set
> and reducing substitutions from 15 to 12, primarily because of the
> change to 25-point sets. The format for media timeouts will remain
> the same.
>
> Additionally, a new ball handling directive, which guides officials
> to be less severe when judging second team contacts, was proposed.
> The committee envisions that this directive will not only increase
> consistency in officiating calls, but also assist the growth of the
> game by no longer punishing extraordinary and highly athletic plays.
>
> "There has been a demand for more consistency regarding the referees'
> ball handling decisions for several years across all divisions as
> well as regions of the country," said Kerry Carr, chair of the
> committee and head women's volleyball coach at the University of
> Pennsylvania. "I think the game will benefit from a decrease in the
> whistles that stop a rally due to a marginal infraction on ball
> handling, especially when there's been a great athletic attempt to
> keep the ball alive."
>
> The committee, comprised of Divisions I, II and III coaches and
> administrators, gave the topic of event management and facility
> expectations serious consideration. After much discussion, the group
> recommended adding preferred facility specifications to the NCAA
> WOMEN'S VOLLEYBALL RULES AND INTERPRETATIONS. In addition, Rule 1.1
> was changed to state that all playable areas must be visible to team
> members and officials.
>
> The committee also reviewed various types of net systems available,
> which are becoming more diverse, as manufacturers seek alternatives
> for facilities that cannot accommodate the traditional sleeve system.
> The committee will continue to research minimal net and pole
> requirements that maintain the integrity of the game while providing
> choices for various facilities.
>
> As technology continues to impact volleyball, the committee is
> monitoring methods used to gather data during a match and broadcast
> matches to the public. The committee began discussions on the use of
> instant replay and its impact on volleyball.
>
> A recommendation from the NCAA Division I Women's Volleyball
> Committee was reviewed to amend Rule 18 to include an option for
> relocating the first referee to the bench side of the net for the
> NCAA championships. ESPN has made this request to enhance the
> television production of the championship. No action was taken on the
> request at this time, but continued research and consideration are
> planned in the near future.
>
> The volleyball rules book was slated to move to a two-year cycle
> starting with the 2009 publication. The committee is forwarding a
> request to PROP to start its two-year cycle with the 2010 book. This
> will provide a better cycle to consider those rule changes made by
> Federation of International Volleyball (FIVB) after the 2008 Beijing
> Olympics.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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