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RE: [bigtenvb] Big10 stats

Chris said:

> With the change to rally scoring, one would think that the
> kills per match, kills per season and kills per career lists
> could stay pretty much as they are forever. The same goes for
> the attempts records. (It looks as though OSU's 7 5-game
> matches in 2002 might have helped Gordon overcome the
> disadvantage of rally scoring get into the top ten in season
> kills. I wonder what she would have done in sideout scoring.)

One might think RPS would 'freeze' these records, but I think not.

A typical, reasonably close RPS game is 30-25, or 55 rallies. The overtime
barn-burners like 38-36, of course, are longer (74 rallies) but are as rare
as the sideout barn-burners of the past.

A typical, reasonably close SPS game is 15-12, 27 points. If the teams are
playing normally, siding out at 50%, that means 54 rallies. If they are
playing extrremely well @ 15-12, siding out at 60% (this is Olympic-class
women's play), this means 72 rallies (27 points, 45 sideouts). An
off-the-chart, 20-18 @ 60% game would be 38 points, 63 sideouts for 101
rallies.

The longest I've ever seen was 93 rallies, ending 18-16. That's 34 points,
59 sideouts, (67% sideout), which is about 4-5 sigmas to the right. That
was a final 4 game a few years back.

In fact, a blowout RPS game (30-15) has _more_ rallies than a blowout SPS
game (15-4), 45 to 38 (or less), because one team is playing horrible,
siding out at 30% or worse. Shortens up those SPS games considerably.

Anyway, the point of all that is RPS, when you break it down, won't affect
career stats much at all.

Rob





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In another shameless attempt to stimulate conversation, I offer the following career stats (how about that Mary Eggers?): Big Ten Volleyball Individual...
Matt Leach
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Wow, brings back memories. Saw and worked many a match with every one of these players with the exceptions of McCahill and Hoosline. Matt is right, the 1995...
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I wonder what (if anything) it means that the majority of the players on the career aces total list, with the exceptions of Lindsey Berg and Jean Shintz, all...
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I think the passing is better. Coaches train their passers constantly and well. That's most of it. Other factors to consider: * Remember, back in the early...
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MessageAndrea Gonzalez and Chris Schaeffer both also had very good jump serves for the Gophers and both also overlapped Sharon Oesterling in their years...
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... For those who don't know, Gina was a setter. ... Of course, everyone knows Bonnie was a setter. ... The only active player on the entire list. (Unless I...
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... One might think RPS would 'freeze' these records, but I think not. A typical, reasonably close RPS game is 30-25, or 55 rallies. The overtime barn-burners...
Peglar, Robert
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... I would agree that rally scoring will have the most effect on match kill records, less effect on season kill records, and least on career kill records....
Chris Wolf
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Chris - the goal of RPS was not necessarily to reduce match length - it was to make game length, and indirectly match length _more predictable_, not ...
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As far as I can tell, we are saying the same thing. You reduce variance by, as I said, reducing "the lengths of the extremely long matches" (and, as you ...
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