I HAVE A EVANS COMPACT THAT CAME OUT OF MY DADS 57 ELDORADO BROUGHAM
(THAT HE SOLD LIKE AN IDIOT FOR $2,500 WITH 15K MILES IN MINT COND.
BECAUSE THE AIR RIDE WENT OUT ) BRUSHED STAINLESS WITH BLUE LEATHER
TRIM ,UN-USED POWDER PUFF, COMB AND LIGHTER AND POSSIBLY THE BLUE
POUCH (IF I CAN FIND IT) THIS ITEM IS IN MINT COND. ASKING PRICE IS
$1,700 U.S. - 10 PICS AVAILABLE UPON REQUEST.

PHIL DENARO
PALM BEACH COUNTY FLORIDA
561 670 6528...............or E MAIL ME AT CarTitleLoan@...

You can get info at the Cadillac LaSalle club website
and at www.500cid.com.  Ted

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Need a little help from my friends.  Can any one point me to
resources where I can find a reputable engine rebuilder to go over
the 500 c.i. in my 1972 Eldo Convertible?  How about a transmission
shop, as well?  Want to do a bang up job so this baby goes another
100,000 to car shows in style.

I'd appreciate pointers to any good resources for other restoration
work.

My thanks to every one, and keep enjoying that smooth and powerful
ride!

Dave Chevaliér

Sorry, I posted an ad for another group before I realized it was
competition. If I had looked at the posted messages first, I would
not have done that. I've been placing ads in related groups
(Cadillac, classic cars, ect.) but was not supposed to step on any
toes. Will the moderator please remove these messages, thanks.
   Check out Yvette Rcahelle insted, ha, ha

Looks like a cool group. Check out this group too:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cadilac_Performance_Association It it
not limited to Big Caddys, but that's what most of the members are
building.

Year- 1972
Engine- 8.2Liter / 500 ci
Make/Model - Cadillac Eldorado 2DR Convertible
Color - Brown body / Lt. Brown interior (pics available)
Price - $2200 OBO  (No CA Smog required)
Location - Santa Clara, California (South Bay Area)
Top in good shape; rear glass window w/DF; solid body.
Dash and interior in very good shape.
Have original owners manual; shop manual; soft boot.

New battery and water pump - June 2002
Car has been garaged - Replaced Exhaust system (134K mi),
timing chain (136K mi), Transmission rebuilt at 136K miles.
Current mileage 147,000.

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Found a tranny....a pontiac TH400 - also for free......thanks for the
help anyway

I'm about to get three 500s for free(ha, beat that for a good deal! :-
D )  Problem is, none of em have a tranny.  I want to use an auto,
since I won't have to mess with mix-n-matching flywheels, clutches
and trannys.  The real problem for me is, I don't know what tranny(s)
I can use.  And I need it to be a RWD tranny, since this is all going
in a 76 Dodge D350 dually - my tow rig

I'm prepared to get the parts needed for a manual tranny, but I'm not
sure what hydraulic setup I'd need.  The guy I'm getting the engines
from says he has a good chance of getting me an SM420 for 100 bucks,
but that leaves a flywheel, clutch, and hydraulic system.  The
bellhousing is also something he's going to give me, since he says he
has plenty

If anyone can help me out, not only would I greatly appreciate it,
but I'll be taking pictures, and write a tech article on how the swap
went.



This is so cool, I've been wanting a 500 for YEARS!

Over 690 members @ http://www.cadillac.rocks.it

Hello All,
  I'm getting some 3/3" header flanges cut. If anyone wants a set,
let me know. Cost will depend on how many pairs I get cut. Should
be $30-$40 a pair. No bolt holes.
RTP.
thanks.
Dave
dbrode@...

Geez, I should really look before I key.  Didn't see your reply
before I posted asking for help again.

I shall get on the timing chain and gears, and valve seals ASAP.

My sincere thanks for the great advice!

Dave


--- In big-cube-cady@y..., "sctur601" <sctur601@y...> wrote:
> Hi, I think you will want to replace the timing chain SOON and if
you
> have the tools the valve seals should be replaced too. Other than
> this there isnt anything that really needs to be changed. You might
> want to put an HEI distributor just for reliability.
> have fun with your Cad.
> --- In big-cube-cady@y..., "dvchevalier" <dvchevalier@y...> wrote:
> > Greetings, fellow big cubed members.  Bought a very clean "garage
> > queen," red 1972 Eldorado convertible with white leather last
> Fall.
> > I'm very proud to be the 2nd owner of this floating dream.  Going
> to
> > do a little work to her to bring her up to 100%, but her body,
> > chrome, paint and rag top are absolutely perfect.  She's really
> near
> > ready for her first car show this summer.  91,000 original miles
on
> > the 500 cid.  Already had the big spreadbore carb rebuilt to like
> > new, but here is my question to the group:
> >
> > What should I be looking for in that motor with this much mileage
> and
> > 30 years under her belt.  Are these motors tough on timing
chains,
> > oil pumps, or what?  Don't want to think about doing a complete
> tear
> > down and rebuild of the mootr, as of yet.  But would like to make
> > sure her "weak link" doesn't pop in the mean time.
> >
> > Thanks for the help, and I'm really proud to be a part of this
SIG!
> >
> > Dave Chevaliér
> > Ogden, Utah

YUP, I should really, REALLY look before I start smackin' keys.
Didn't see your reply before I posted asking for help again.

I shall get on the timing chain and gears, and valve seals ASAP.

Again, my sincere thanks for the great advice!

Dave


--- In big-cube-cady@y..., JOEOILER@A... wrote:
> As was already mentioned, the timing chain is a MUST!  Unless you
know that
> it has been changed before, you had better make it a priority.
> Valve seals are also a good idea; my '74 had a handful of them in
the oil pan
> when I pulled it.
>
> Hope that you and your Eldo have many fine years of pampering each
other!
>
> Joe

Greetings, fellow Big Cube followers.  I have a 72' Eldo convertible
with 91,000 original miles on her.  Refurbishing her to show quality,
but ... I am concerned as to what I should be looking for
mechanically at this point, with this many miles and years under her
belt.

Is there something that has a tendency to go first?  Should I be
looking at any thing in particular that has a reputation for being a
problem?

Any help I can get from this pool of experts will be greatly
appreciated.  Thanks for the help in advance!

Dave Chevalier

Ted,
Edelbrock makes an aluminum intake for the Caddy.
It's about $280.00 and is available from MTS (262)740-1118

--- In big-cube-cady@y..., "texast100" <texast100@y...> wrote:
> New guy here.  I need an aluminum 4 bbl intake for the 472?  What
is
> the deal with the 460 Ford fitting the 472 Cad.  Does it require
any
> mods?  Seems like I saw somewhere that it did.   Ted

Hi Ted,

Yes you can, but you will need adapter plates. Find them at:

http://www.pricemotorsport.com/index.html

Then you can get just as crazy as you want. Tunnel ram anyone?

John

--- In big-cube-cady@y..., JOEOILER@A... wrote:
> That rocker system sure is interesting.  I'd love to see some real
world
> results.  Rest assured that a Cadillac application will not be
coming soon.
> I may call to see how much a setup costs for my Small Block Chevy.
>
> Joe Oiler,
>
> Memphis, TN

Hi Joe,
Well for a grand I think I'll let some one else take the lead on this
one.
The one thing that bothers me is that with all the extra lift,
stronger valve springs will be required, and that will just make a
weak looking system break sooner.

John

That rocker system sure is interesting.  I'd love to see some real world
results.  Rest assured that a Cadillac application will not be coming soon.
I may call to see how much a setup costs for my Small Block Chevy.

Joe Oiler,

Memphis, TN

Check out this site and give your opinions please.

http://www.hotrocker.com/index.html

This thing would be killer, if it works.

John

New guy here.  I need an aluminum 4 bbl intake for the 472?  What is
the deal with the 460 Ford fitting the 472 Cad.  Does it require any
mods?  Seems like I saw somewhere that it did.   Ted

One of the common strokers is to use a 6.7" or 6.8" Chevy rod on an
offset ground ford crank. The I can get Eagle H beams for $379 and
trw Forged pistons for $219 -$349 . My local crank shop can do the
crank work for under $200.
All of that will be down the road though.
Josh
--- In big-cube-cady@y..., "JASON  GREEN" <jasong@f...> wrote:
> Josh,
>
> Maybe you can have your cake and eat it, too.  Bore the 460 .060"
(it should
> handle it, no problem).  Offset grind the crank to a 2.25" journal
size.
> Get 455 Buick rods (these are forged steel from the factory).  Weld
the big
> end (I forget the dimensions, but the Ford rod is *slightly*
thicker than
> the Buick rod), machine the small end out to the Ford pin size and
Voila!  a
> 503 Ford!!
>
> Later,
>
> Jason
>
>
>
>
> From: "bigbraxx" <braxx@m...>
> Subject: Going to the dark side!!!
>
>  Sorry guys,
>  I want to build a big motored light drag car to run 11 flat in the
> quarter. I planned on running a 500 cadillac, but there just aren't
> any running motors around here (S.E. Michigan). I was looking for a
> running 500 motor and 400trans, and small light chassis. I keep
> looking in the papers and online. NOTHING!!!!!!!
>  Guess what there are a lot of around me though? Ton's of 460 Ford
> trucks and 460 Lincolns with C6 tranny's. There are about 5 places
> that build motor mount kits, headers and every thing else you need.
I
> found a good condition 86 Mustang notch back. No motor or trans but
> it does have a 8.8" rear end with 4.10 gears and subframe
connectors.
> The owner took it to a weigh station and it weighs 1,950lbs as it
> sits. All for $600 !!!!!!!!!!!!
>  I also found a 71 or 72 Lincoln with 100,000 miles on it. Runs
> great. Rusty and rotted to heck but my buddy want the 9" rear end
and
> will buy it from me for$175. I can get the whole car for $350. I'd
> have $175 out of my pocket for the motor, trans and anything else I
> want from it.

See, that's exactly what I'm talking about. If I could come accross
a Caddy like that I'd do it. I guess being up here in Michigan there
were just more Lincoln and full size Fords being purchased than
Caddy's.
Josh
--- In big-cube-cady@y..., "pipejw02" <jonpiper@m...> wrote:
> go for the 460 if they're plentiful and cheap and 500's are hard to
> come by.  they're pretty darn comparable if you ask me - a great
> engine.  i almost went for a 460 too because i saw a pretty good
deal
> on one, but i ran into a 472 with a rebuilt tranny in a running car
> with 55K original miles for $250, so i grabbed that.
>
> -jon
>
>
> --- In big-cube-cady@y..., "bigbraxx" <braxx@m...> wrote:
> >  Sorry guys,
> >  I want to build a big motored light drag car to run 11 flat in
the
> > quarter. I planned on running a 500 cadillac, but there just
aren't
> > any running motors around here (S.E. Michigan). I was looking for
a
> > running 500 motor and 400trans, and small light chassis. I keep
> > looking in the papers and online. NOTHING!!!!!!!
> >  Guess what there are a lot of around me though? Ton's of 460
Ford
> > trucks and 460 Lincolns with C6 tranny's. There are about 5
places
> > that build motor mount kits, headers and every thing else you
need.
> I
> > found a good condition 86 Mustang notch back. No motor or trans
but
> > it does have a 8.8" rear end with 4.10 gears and subframe
> connectors.
> > The owner took it to a weigh station and it weighs 1,950lbs as it
> > sits. All for $600 !!!!!!!!!!!!
> >  I also found a 71 or 72 Lincoln with 100,000 miles on it. Runs
> > great. Rusty and rotted to heck but my buddy want the 9" rear end
> and
> > will buy it from me for$175. I can get the whole car for $350.
I'd
> > have $175 out of my pocket for the motor, trans and anything else
I
> > want from it.
> >  $600 for the Mustang, $175 for the drive-train. There are about
5
> > places that build motor mount or motor plate kits, headers and
every
> > thing else you need.  $500 for the swap parts (Headers, mounts,
> drive
> > shaft and the little extra's)that's $1,275 for a fairly clean,
semi
> > unique big block car that should run 14 flat (Remember, the motor
> > will be pretty much stock) with a good tune up. Then I could
build
> > another motor with good heads, forged pistons and rods for about
> > $1,800 - $2,000 and then run my 11's.
> >  So,.... unless someone can convince me other wise that is the
way i
> > will go. On another option. A guy put a 500 cad in a 88 Mustang.
I'd
> > like to try that but I still can't find good motors around here!
> > Josh

As was already mentioned, the timing chain is a MUST!  Unless you know that
it has been changed before, you had better make it a priority.
Valve seals are also a good idea; my '74 had a handful of them in the oil pan
when I pulled it.

Hope that you and your Eldo have many fine years of pampering each other!

Joe

Josh,

Maybe you can have your cake and eat it, too.  Bore the 460 .060" (it should
handle it, no problem).  Offset grind the crank to a 2.25" journal size.
Get 455 Buick rods (these are forged steel from the factory).  Weld the big
end (I forget the dimensions, but the Ford rod is *slightly* thicker than
the Buick rod), machine the small end out to the Ford pin size and Voila!  a
503 Ford!!

Later,

Jason




From: "bigbraxx" <braxx@...>
Subject: Going to the dark side!!!

  Sorry guys,
  I want to build a big motored light drag car to run 11 flat in the
quarter. I planned on running a 500 cadillac, but there just aren't
any running motors around here (S.E. Michigan). I was looking for a
running 500 motor and 400trans, and small light chassis. I keep
looking in the papers and online. NOTHING!!!!!!!
  Guess what there are a lot of around me though? Ton's of 460 Ford
trucks and 460 Lincolns with C6 tranny's. There are about 5 places
that build motor mount kits, headers and every thing else you need. I
found a good condition 86 Mustang notch back. No motor or trans but
it does have a 8.8" rear end with 4.10 gears and subframe connectors.
The owner took it to a weigh station and it weighs 1,950lbs as it
sits. All for $600 !!!!!!!!!!!!
  I also found a 71 or 72 Lincoln with 100,000 miles on it. Runs
great. Rusty and rotted to heck but my buddy want the 9" rear end and
will buy it from me for$175. I can get the whole car for $350. I'd
have $175 out of my pocket for the motor, trans and anything else I
want from it.

Hi, I think you will want to replace the timing chain SOON and if you
have the tools the valve seals should be replaced too. Other than
this there isnt anything that really needs to be changed. You might
want to put an HEI distributor just for reliability.
have fun with your Cad.
--- In big-cube-cady@y..., "dvchevalier" <dvchevalier@y...> wrote:
> Greetings, fellow big cubed members.  Bought a very clean "garage
> queen," red 1972 Eldorado convertible with white leather last
Fall.
> I'm very proud to be the 2nd owner of this floating dream.  Going
to
> do a little work to her to bring her up to 100%, but her body,
> chrome, paint and rag top are absolutely perfect.  She's really
near
> ready for her first car show this summer.  91,000 original miles on
> the 500 cid.  Already had the big spreadbore carb rebuilt to like
> new, but here is my question to the group:
>
> What should I be looking for in that motor with this much mileage
and
> 30 years under her belt.  Are these motors tough on timing chains,
> oil pumps, or what?  Don't want to think about doing a complete
tear
> down and rebuild of the mootr, as of yet.  But would like to make
> sure her "weak link" doesn't pop in the mean time.
>
> Thanks for the help, and I'm really proud to be a part of this SIG!
>
> Dave Chevaliér
> Ogden, Utah

I would go with the 460 also. One of the reasons I like the 472/500
is because there are so many of them out here. There are actually
alot of 429/460s here too but are getting expensive. The 460 weighs
more, but with all the aftermarket parts available, like aluminium
heads you can make the 460 lose alot of weight. So if it cheap and
available pick one up! Tell us how the engien goes runs when its done
too!
--- In big-cube-cady@y..., "bigbraxx" <braxx@m...> wrote:
>  Sorry guys,
>  I want to build a big motored light drag car to run 11 flat in the
> quarter. I planned on running a 500 cadillac, but there just aren't
> any running motors around here (S.E. Michigan). I was looking for a
> running 500 motor and 400trans, and small light chassis. I keep
> looking in the papers and online. NOTHING!!!!!!!
>  Guess what there are a lot of around me though? Ton's of 460 Ford
> trucks and 460 Lincolns with C6 tranny's. There are about 5 places
> that build motor mount kits, headers and every thing else you need.
I
> found a good condition 86 Mustang notch back. No motor or trans but
> it does have a 8.8" rear end with 4.10 gears and subframe
connectors.
> The owner took it to a weigh station and it weighs 1,950lbs as it
> sits. All for $600 !!!!!!!!!!!!
>  I also found a 71 or 72 Lincoln with 100,000 miles on it. Runs
> great. Rusty and rotted to heck but my buddy want the 9" rear end
and
> will buy it from me for$175. I can get the whole car for $350. I'd
> have $175 out of my pocket for the motor, trans and anything else I
> want from it.
>  $600 for the Mustang, $175 for the drive-train. There are about 5
> places that build motor mount or motor plate kits, headers and
every
> thing else you need.  $500 for the swap parts (Headers, mounts,
drive
> shaft and the little extra's)that's $1,275 for a fairly clean, semi
> unique big block car that should run 14 flat (Remember, the motor
> will be pretty much stock) with a good tune up. Then I could build
> another motor with good heads, forged pistons and rods for about
> $1,800 - $2,000 and then run my 11's.
>  So,.... unless someone can convince me other wise that is the way
i
> will go. On another option. A guy put a 500 cad in a 88 Mustang.
I'd
> like to try that but I still can't find good motors around here!
> Josh

Greetings, fellow big cubed members.  Bought a very clean "garage
queen," red 1972 Eldorado convertible with white leather last Fall.
I'm very proud to be the 2nd owner of this floating dream.  Going to
do a little work to her to bring her up to 100%, but her body,
chrome, paint and rag top are absolutely perfect.  She's really near
ready for her first car show this summer.  91,000 original miles on
the 500 cid.  Already had the big spreadbore carb rebuilt to like
new, but here is my question to the group:

What should I be looking for in that motor with this much mileage and
30 years under her belt.  Are these motors tough on timing chains,
oil pumps, or what?  Don't want to think about doing a complete tear
down and rebuild of the mootr, as of yet.  But would like to make
sure her "weak link" doesn't pop in the mean time.

Thanks for the help, and I'm really proud to be a part of this SIG!

Dave Chevaliér
Ogden, Utah

go for the 460 if they're plentiful and cheap and 500's are hard to
come by.  they're pretty darn comparable if you ask me - a great
engine.  i almost went for a 460 too because i saw a pretty good deal
on one, but i ran into a 472 with a rebuilt tranny in a running car
with 55K original miles for $250, so i grabbed that.

-jon


--- In big-cube-cady@y..., "bigbraxx" <braxx@m...> wrote:
>  Sorry guys,
>  I want to build a big motored light drag car to run 11 flat in the
> quarter. I planned on running a 500 cadillac, but there just aren't
> any running motors around here (S.E. Michigan). I was looking for a
> running 500 motor and 400trans, and small light chassis. I keep
> looking in the papers and online. NOTHING!!!!!!!
>  Guess what there are a lot of around me though? Ton's of 460 Ford
> trucks and 460 Lincolns with C6 tranny's. There are about 5 places
> that build motor mount kits, headers and every thing else you need.
I
> found a good condition 86 Mustang notch back. No motor or trans but
> it does have a 8.8" rear end with 4.10 gears and subframe
connectors.
> The owner took it to a weigh station and it weighs 1,950lbs as it
> sits. All for $600 !!!!!!!!!!!!
>  I also found a 71 or 72 Lincoln with 100,000 miles on it. Runs
> great. Rusty and rotted to heck but my buddy want the 9" rear end
and
> will buy it from me for$175. I can get the whole car for $350. I'd
> have $175 out of my pocket for the motor, trans and anything else I
> want from it.
>  $600 for the Mustang, $175 for the drive-train. There are about 5
> places that build motor mount or motor plate kits, headers and every
> thing else you need.  $500 for the swap parts (Headers, mounts,
drive
> shaft and the little extra's)that's $1,275 for a fairly clean, semi
> unique big block car that should run 14 flat (Remember, the motor
> will be pretty much stock) with a good tune up. Then I could build
> another motor with good heads, forged pistons and rods for about
> $1,800 - $2,000 and then run my 11's.
>  So,.... unless someone can convince me other wise that is the way i
> will go. On another option. A guy put a 500 cad in a 88 Mustang. I'd
> like to try that but I still can't find good motors around here!
> Josh

Sorry guys,
  I want to build a big motored light drag car to run 11 flat in the
quarter. I planned on running a 500 cadillac, but there just aren't
any running motors around here (S.E. Michigan). I was looking for a
running 500 motor and 400trans, and small light chassis. I keep
looking in the papers and online. NOTHING!!!!!!!
  Guess what there are a lot of around me though? Ton's of 460 Ford
trucks and 460 Lincolns with C6 tranny's. There are about 5 places
that build motor mount kits, headers and every thing else you need. I
found a good condition 86 Mustang notch back. No motor or trans but
it does have a 8.8" rear end with 4.10 gears and subframe connectors.
The owner took it to a weigh station and it weighs 1,950lbs as it
sits. All for $600 !!!!!!!!!!!!
  I also found a 71 or 72 Lincoln with 100,000 miles on it. Runs
great. Rusty and rotted to heck but my buddy want the 9" rear end and
will buy it from me for$175. I can get the whole car for $350. I'd
have $175 out of my pocket for the motor, trans and anything else I
want from it.
  $600 for the Mustang, $175 for the drive-train. There are about 5
places that build motor mount or motor plate kits, headers and every
thing else you need.  $500 for the swap parts (Headers, mounts, drive
shaft and the little extra's)that's $1,275 for a fairly clean, semi
unique big block car that should run 14 flat (Remember, the motor
will be pretty much stock) with a good tune up. Then I could build
another motor with good heads, forged pistons and rods for about
$1,800 - $2,000 and then run my 11's.
  So,.... unless someone can convince me other wise that is the way i
will go. On another option. A guy put a 500 cad in a 88 Mustang. I'd
like to try that but I still can't find good motors around here!
Josh

http://www.cadillacperfpts.com  thats all there is except for regular parts
places .
----- Original Message -----
From: "bigbraxx" <braxx@...>
To: <big-cube-cady@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 6:23 AM
Subject: [big-cube-cady] Parts suppliers?


> Hey people,
>  I know about MTS, Cad Company and Potter but are there anymore?
> Also, I can't find Potters web site any more. Do any of you know it?
> Thanks,
> Josh
>
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