Education vs Engineering. I thought about this on the way to work this morning, since I'd brought it up in a meeting about BikeEd yesterday. Riding to work is...
As someone who promotes and conducts cyclist education, I agree with you, but I may be biased. Allow me to play Devil's Advocate for a moment. Among the public...
I don't think the answer is to choose one or the other. We need both. *********************************************************** Riin Gill Interlibrary Loan...
WOW! That letter deserves a Pulitzer prize, or something as great. Well said and superbly written. I can see a lot of plagiarism in the near future--if ...
... Thanks! :) I'm happy to inspire, and I don't mind if fellow advocates lift a rather lengthy phrase here or there, but if it's several complete sentences,...
I think it's human nature to view the world & its problems through the prism of our own experience, biased as that may be. Thus, the technologist finds a...
I like the direction from which Ed is coming. ANd I can see Darrell's points as Devil's Advocate. First the disclaimer: The following is my opinion based on...
Rowan Burns
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Jul 1, 2003 10:48 pm
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Rowan, Part of the problem with licensing cyclists has to do with the general perception that they're toys not vehicles. And as you say, 'everyone' learned...
Very persuasive, Ed. Keep up the good work. While it may not be as simple as you've stated it, the point is well taken. Fred Meredith ... -- When in doubt ......
... Not in the U.S. Most states require that adults pass a laughably easy written and/or practical driving test (parallel parking is far and away the most...
I had better clear something up here before it escalates into unintended conflict with WMDs flying about... I was not (repeat not) advocating licences for...
Rowan Burns
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Jul 2, 2003 7:04 am
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R.L. Horn said: Not in the U.S. Most states require that adults pass a laughably easy written and/or practical driving test (parallel parking is far and away ...
Rowan Burns
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Jul 2, 2003 7:20 am
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Rowan wrote: It really does help in bringing together viable solutions. So you might not agree with what I write. Then again, I might not tomorrow, either! SB:...
... Just for comparison, to get a pilot's license in the US requires only 40 hours in the plane -- and not even all of it with an instructor. On the other...
... The question is, *why* is public transportation so poor? If driver's licenses weren't nearly as easy to obtain as gumballs, then people would *demand*...
... I agree, but we're now stuck in a conundrum: people won't accept an unreasonable increase in the costs of licensing because they now perceive driving as...
... http://users.rcn.com/icebike/ Right now it's 95 degrees Fahrenheit so I'm not thinking much of icebiking, but I only have to ride about forty miles and...
SB wrote: What is the significant problem that your suggested solution, compulsorary education of cyclists (AKA-licensing-taxation) is supposed to solve? Any...
Rowan Burns
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Jul 2, 2003 11:24 pm
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Darren Zanon said Motorcycle training courses are excellent, teaching a lot of skills in a short period, but without periodic re-learning, they're also...
Rowan Burns
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Jul 2, 2003 11:32 pm
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Darren Zanon wrote: (3) In Washington Sate a couple years ago, the voters passed a referendum that cut the registration costs for cars You see, therein lies...
Rowan Burns
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Jul 2, 2003 11:52 pm
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Rowan B. wrote: I would imagine some people would ask: <a series of rhetorical questions that somehow associates/correlates cyclists right to freedom from...
Thank you, everyone, who did it last time. It improved the commuter bicyclists' situation last time. Please, can you do it again? Help!!! Need you to call,...
Kimberly
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Jul 3, 2003 3:01 am
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Kimberly You have all the information you need, just don't expect the law enforcement officer to "rule in your favor." That's a judge's obligation. Get...
Every now and again, I have a day that reminds me why bicycling advocacy matters. In Tulsa, the north side (bad side of tracks, low-income district, oh yeah,...
SB: Suffering? You must be reading different lists then me or know of a new method of measuring/defining "suffering". I have yet to read a posting anywhere...
Rowan Burns
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Jul 3, 2003 6:39 am
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... I didn't think that you were. I probably overreacted a bit but I was in a particularly bad mood that night. Having nearly been run down twice in as many...
... It's funny, but since I started cycling again and really observing traffic patterns, I've come to have a real, if grudging, respect for the Dallas- area...
============================================================ From: <ED@...> You have all the information you need, just don't expect the law...
Kimberly
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Jul 3, 2003 10:15 am
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Really? What does your lawyer say about the possibility of appeal? Is that even an option? It doesn't sound right to me that a judge is allowed to say that he...
Rowan wrote: These people, whom advocates beseech to take up cycling for their own good, have found this enthusiastically promoted physical activity did not...