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Re: [bicyclingadvocacy] Ken Kifer

On Mon, 15 Sep 2003, w. r. niere wrote:

> Something substantial should remain to remind us of Ken. I hope there is
> some way to keep his site online and maintained.

One of Ken's biggest worries was what would happen to his website after he
died. Legally, all of the files belong to his son now. When I talked to
his sister, she gave me her address and suggested I write a letter to his
son and she would give it to him. I'll offer to do everything I can to
keep his website alive. Unfortunately, I haven't learned html yet -- Ken
was about to teach me. I've been working on a website of my own, which
won't be ready for a while, as I've still got a lot more writing to do. I
will dedicate my website to Ken's memory.

Little things keep hitting me. On the way home I realized there would
never be any more chapters of The New World. He didn't talk about it that
much here because it wasn't really bicycling related, but he really hoped
people would read it and borrow some of the ideas and start to live like
that. It was his utopian vision, and he wasn't finished writing it. He
told me what some of his ideas were for upcoming chapters, and I'd even
been copying some articles out of magazines to send him for background
information. His upcoming trip had been to do research for the story.
But now it's all unfinished. There won't be any more chapters. There's
so much left unsaid.

The drunk driver who hit Ken at around 8 pm Saturday had gotten out of
jail 4 hours earlier for drunk driving. He was sober when he got out. I
guess the first thing he did was go start drinking.

***********************************************************
Riin Gill
Interlibrary Loan 734-615-6168
Taubman Medical Library fax 734-763-1473
University of Michigan
***********************************************************
If you were riding your bike, you'd be having fun by now.




Mon Sep 15, 2003 5:25 pm

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Here is a photo of Ken taken in 2000 http://www.cs.unca.edu/~boyd/touring/tour2000/day4/kenk.jpg -Bob Matter...
Robert J. Matter
rjmatter00 Offline Send Email
Sep 15, 2003
3:08 pm

I am just stunned. There are just some people you expect will always be there. That was Ken. I never met him personally, but I leaned on him a lot. I thought...
w. r. niere
ternon_2000 Offline Send Email
Sep 15, 2003
3:18 pm

So much senseless mayhem on the highways these days: http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/11.10/drifting.html Maybe we need a movement called "Safe Routes" and...
Scott Mace
scottmace2002 Offline Send Email
Sep 15, 2003
3:42 pm

... One of Ken's biggest worries was what would happen to his website after he died. Legally, all of the files belong to his son now. When I talked to his...
RIIN GILL
riingill Offline Send Email
Sep 15, 2003
5:25 pm

Riin - Alex Wetmore (alex@...), the owner (I believe that is the correct term) of the touring@... list, has been discussing saving Ken's website....
Deana Volker
dvolker54 Offline Send Email
Sep 15, 2003
5:32 pm

I started downloading the entire bikepages section of Ken's site shortly after I read Riin's message regarding Ken's death. It'll be a handy archive in case...
RichardMasoner Offline Send Email Sep 15, 2003
6:14 pm

I've also archived Ken's site on my computer. I found a shareware program called Offline Explorer, I think that's its name -- it's on my Windows partition and...
Paul Cooley
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Sep 15, 2003
7:39 pm

... There's also an archive automatically stored at www.archive.org. Just type in any URL, including www.kenkifer.com, into the "Wayback machine" there. It...
Scott Mace
scottmace2002 Offline Send Email
Sep 15, 2003
8:26 pm

It took a while, but we finally got the domain name to point to the new server IP. If you go to Ken's website now, you'll see a note at the bottom of the...
RIIN GILL
riingill Offline Send Email
Nov 4, 2003
3:09 am

Let me know you need any help with his website, i'll gladly host it on my server. ~Joe BikeForums.net ... there is ... after he ... talked to ... to his ... ...
Joe
bikeforums Offline Send Email
Sep 15, 2003
10:04 pm

I'm a relative newcomer to this listserve (and I have never posted to it), but I've been an avid reader of Ken's web pages for several years. Aside from...
rcpatt Offline Send Email Sep 15, 2003
9:12 pm

Hello all, I'm Ken Kifer's daughter-in-law. I came to this group hoping to get word to the online biking community about his death, but it seems that the news...
tanya
tatiko2 Offline Send Email
Sep 16, 2003
2:13 am

I received the post below from my sister. As a sometimes too satirical writer, I was glad to see another satirist (of greater capability) taking a moment to...
Brian D. Potter
brhino42 Offline Send Email
Sep 16, 2003
4:06 am

Posted from another list I am on. <<Message: 25 Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 02:13:26 -0000 From: "tanya" <tbrecht@...> Subject: Ken Kifer Hello all, I'm Ken...
Deana Volker
dvolker54 Offline Send Email
Sep 16, 2003
1:58 pm

... George Carlin did not write this. http://www.georgecarlin.com/georgecarlin/home/dontblame.html Scott Mace ... Blog: http://urbification.blogspot.com/...
Scott Mace
scottmace2002 Offline Send Email
Sep 17, 2003
3:54 pm

Okay, Credit belongs with Dr. Bob Moorehead, former pastor of Seattle's Overlake Christian Church. It is still EXCELLENT and right on target. I appreciate...
Sandra Crisp
cdslcrisp Offline Send Email
Sep 17, 2003
4:06 pm

Ken Kifer was a major influence on my life. Somehow, a few years ago, I stumbled across his website. Ken's site influenced me to become a bicycle commuter. I...
vegancommuter Offline Send Email Sep 17, 2003
4:10 pm

I was saddended to hear of Ken Kifer's death. I loved his bike pages and they were very helpfull on my solo bicycle camping trip this summer. I rode from...
kurtkraft66 Offline Send Email Sep 19, 2003
2:11 am

I havn't been on the internet for a while so I'v just heard about Ken's death. His website was perhaps the most interesting and thought provoking cycling...
Graham
maharg81 Offline Send Email
Sep 24, 2003
10:51 pm

... This is something many people have been wondering about. Don't worry. Ken told me his biggest worry was what would happen to his website after he died....
RIIN GILL
riingill Offline Send Email
Sep 25, 2003
5:27 pm

Riin, That's great that his website will continue. Thanks for the update. You should also take measures to preserve this Yahoo Group. I notice that Ken's...
Tim Oey
the_pen_is_m... Offline Send Email
Sep 26, 2003
4:17 am

... It had started to occur to me that there must be some difference between an owner and a moderator or they wouldn't have the two of them. Thanks for...
RIIN GILL
riingill Offline Send Email
Sep 26, 2003
1:05 pm

I'm new to the bicyclingadvocacy list but I'm a very experienced moderator, Yahoo Group owner (20 or so groups and counting), and bicyclist. If you need...
Tim Oey
the_pen_is_m... Offline Send Email
Sep 26, 2003
3:19 pm

... Thanks for your offer, Tim. I very much appreciate it, but I'm reluctant to choose someone who hasn't been on the list for very long. I hope you're not...
RIIN GILL
riingill Offline Send Email
Sep 27, 2003
11:45 pm

... Don't worry. ... (possibly ... Riin, I have not been around this group for quite some time. Enough reading with the Touring and I-bob lists, and the...
mgagnonlv Offline Send Email Sep 26, 2003
4:31 am

... We emailed each other throughout his trip, but usually talked more about personal things. Could you (or someone) forward me these messages? ...
RIIN GILL
riingill Offline Send Email
Sep 26, 2003
12:54 pm
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