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Re: [bicyclingadvocacy] Sharrows

Remember When...a Shop of Memories wrote:

> What do you guys think?

Go ride in Davis, California for a week then come back and post your
thoughts.

It's all about how bike lanes are done. When they're done right, they're
great. Citizens must demand that their bike lanes are done right.

-Bob Matter





Thu Jul 3, 2008 7:50 pm

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When RJM and KOB agree about something, I start to worry! Of course, they dislike sharrows for different reasons, so the universe can continue to exist. 8-) ...
Michael Graff
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Jul 3, 2008
4:27 pm

... ...or a cosmetic indicator that shows that the lane is shareably wide, depending on the placement of the sharrow. The draft MUTCD specs for sharrows...
bob.bayn@...
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Jul 3, 2008
5:26 pm

... I looked over the draft [http://www.trafficsign.us/npa.html] recently and concluded that the Shared Lane Marker (aka SLM, aka sharrow) will only be used in...
Michael Graff
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Jul 3, 2008
5:50 pm

Wow! Lively conversation! We have a few you guys here too. The roads that I am talking about are so narrow they have no shoulder at all and have cars parked...
Remember When...a Sho...
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Jul 3, 2008
6:09 pm

... Go ride in Davis, California for a week then come back and post your thoughts. It's all about how bike lanes are done. When they're done right, they're ...
Robert J. Matter
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Jul 3, 2008
6:51 pm

... all and have ... As with lane width, shoulders are not a bicyclist's issue. In general traveling bicyclists should be discouraged from riding in shoulder...
kob2@...
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Jul 3, 2008
6:31 pm

... all and have ... As with lane width, shoulders are not a bicyclist's issue. In general traveling bicyclists should be discouraged from riding in shoulder...
Remember When...a Sho...
rememberwhen...
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Jul 3, 2008
7:50 pm

... You can not teach bicyclists to ride safe or think about roadway bicycling properly with bikelanes. Bikelanes teach the exact opposite of what needs to be...
Kenneth O'Brien
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Jul 3, 2008
9:30 pm

... Your stats are not sufficient. I have no doubt that many cyclists have solo falls or crash into each other. But, the reason the bicyclist/motorist...
thomas_d_church
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Jul 14, 2008
6:06 am

... These stats are from studies that reflect overall bicycling, not bicycling characteristic of within a few miles of Cape Cod Rail Trail in vacation season....
Kenneth O'Brien
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Jul 14, 2008
10:37 am

... Slight expansion on this point: Since bicycling paths are significantly more dangerous places to ride statistically, removing path statistics potentially...
Kenneth O'Brien
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Jul 14, 2008
11:02 am

... done on roadways, the above number will stay close to this even if path riding is removed. > Ken ... Ken, I'm not sure your statement is correct but I...
thomas_d_church
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Jul 14, 2008
11:22 pm

Sorry. I don't know any good bike paths (and I know Cape Cod's.) Ken ... Kenneth O'Brien kob2@......
Kenneth O'Brien
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Jul 14, 2008
11:43 pm

... It's a shame you can't find enjoyment on any bike path, anywhere. To radically alter your idea of off-road riding maybe you should avoid multi-use path...
thomas_d_church
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Jul 15, 2008
9:04 pm

I have mountain biked many times over the years and have enjoyed it. I own an ~15 year old HooKooEKoo suspended from a hook downstairs, in desperate need of...
Kenneth O'Brien
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Jul 16, 2008
12:19 pm

... You often return to the statement that you don't want public funds spent on bike facilities. That means absolutely no multi-use paths in your preferred...
thomas_d_church
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Jul 16, 2008
6:57 pm

Thomas "_d_" Church wants us all to: "mountainbike ride on singletrack". TF: I call them hiking trails. "Seriously you should give it a try. Otherwise you...
Tom Frost Jr.
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Jul 18, 2008
1:22 am

... Actually my suggestion to try some singletrack was directed specifically at Ken but I suppose they could be directed at anyone who seems opposed to riding...
thomas_d_church
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Jul 19, 2008
12:34 am

... I think you need to go back and reread my previous email. I have enjoyed mountain bicycling for years now. Also, I lead a number of road rides for our club...
Kenneth O'Brien
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Jul 19, 2008
1:59 pm

... of dirt road.> Owning and occationally riding a mountain bike on dirt roads hardly gives you mountainbiker credentials. It's a lot like a hiker calling ...
thomas_d_church
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Jul 20, 2008
10:49 pm

... People who favor opening each and every public trail to mountain bicycle usage are people who favor opening each and every public trail to mountain bicycle...
Kenneth O'Brien
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Jul 20, 2008
11:07 pm

... but who favor limited access to off-road trails are not mountain bikers. ... Ken, Those I would classify as "mountain bikers" are a subset of cyclists. ...
thomas_d_church
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Jul 26, 2008
1:22 am

... Well now you have... at least electronically. I think it is fine for selected public recreational trails to be made off limits to mountain bicycling. I am...
Kenneth O'Brien
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Jul 26, 2008
2:01 am

Well Bob - what is right? I doubt I'll be cruising out to Davis so why don't you tell me about them. Thanks! Karen ... From: Robert J. Matter To:...
Remember When...a Sho...
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Jul 3, 2008
7:55 pm

... Here's a good article to start with that has more links at the bottom: http://www.runmuki.com/paul/writing/davis.html Besides clean wide bike lanes in a...
Robert J. Matter
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Jul 3, 2008
8:49 pm

Thanks Bob I have forwarded this on to my group. It looks like Davis would be a great place to live and ride. It also looks like they planned from near the...
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Jul 8, 2008
3:16 pm

Good points Kenneth! I will reread this email a couple of times to make sure I got them all. I'm glad you as passionate about this subject as you are. We...
Remember When...a Sho...
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Jul 8, 2008
3:32 pm

... Since roadways are statistically safer than paths, I apparently have more concern for the safety of their 'children' than the parents who call for ...
kob2@...
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Jul 16, 2008
7:07 pm

Not to throw fuel on the fire, but there was a posting in the local newspaper sports blog commemorating the death of a mom, wife, cyclist. She was afraid to...
fred_dot_u
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Jul 16, 2008
7:55 pm

Bikeways need to be designed to avoid crossings at grade. Thats an advocacy issue....
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Jul 18, 2008
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