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Re: Praise for multi-use paths

Thomas "_d_" Church explains the ins and outs of how he managed to
fall "only" once on his ride, and concludes the paragraph with:

"Get out and ride more and you will learn this too."

TF: How much snow does your neck of the woods usually receive per
year, Mr. Church? Enough for you to have ridden in snow more than
those of us in the northeastern U.S. where a town not bothering to
have snow-removal equipment like you reported in an earlier post is
the case in yours, is unheard of?

- Tom Frost Jr.




Fri Mar 9, 2007 11:46 am

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Last night I rode 75 K from Osan AB to Seoul Korea a night, in a blizzard, on a time trial bike. I started at 5:15 with light flurries and dry roads and I...
tom church
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Mar 8, 2007
1:28 am

I've lived the last nine years in a place that gets greater than your average amount of snow for a US location. Roadways stay passable for my me on my bicycle,...
Kenneth O'Brien
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Mar 8, 2007
3:23 am

My view is Bike lanes/paths is a poor-man's way of building a sidewalk with hidden motives. The only exception is Rail/Canal-ways which are acceptable don't...
Friedrich Leutz
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Mar 8, 2007
11:35 am

... I think a rail corridor should have rail running through it, or lie fallow waiting for rail to run through it again some day. I suspect the occasional...
Kenneth O'Brien
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Mar 8, 2007
12:32 pm

... TF: I agree. But unfortunately, you're not President for Life, and I'm not Top Field Marshal. Is the railroad company that owns the corridor going to agree...
Tom Frost Jr.
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Mar 8, 2007
8:53 pm

... Coincidentally I received notice today about two new pages added to a local cyclist's voluminous site. One has a caption that says it all. "The...
Kat Iverson
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Mar 8, 2007
6:41 am

If we need tort law reform to help rail corridors lie fallow (and that only is _IF_ we need that)... and _if_ that works out to be one part of a set of...
kob2@...
kob22225
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Mar 8, 2007
9:35 pm

Now that a rich body of historical evidence exists proving rails "with" trails are safe, I wouldn't expect cyclestrian activist groups to kick up too much of a...
Robert J. Matter
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Mar 8, 2007
11:40 pm

To suggest that riding in a storm on the roads around Seoul is safer than riding on a multi-use path with no road crossings at all is lunacy. The hundreds of...
thomas_d_church
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Mar 9, 2007
12:18 am

... Since solo falling is part of safety.... Also "impassable" often is a practical consideration that comes into play to everywhere I have ever lived during a...
Kenneth O'Brien
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Mar 9, 2007
3:56 am

... Solo falling is a luxury I enjoy frequently, especially when mountain biking. I only fell once Wednesday night and landeed on my left hip for a change. No...
thomas_d_church
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Mar 9, 2007
10:14 am

Thomas "_d_" Church explains the ins and outs of how he managed to fall "only" once on his ride, and concludes the paragraph with: "Get out and ride more and...
Tom Frost Jr.
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Mar 9, 2007
11:47 am

... I grew up in Rochester New York, which averages just under 8 feet/year. Seoul rarely has snow. When it does, we rush to the mountains and ride it. On...
thomas_d_church
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Mar 9, 2007
9:13 pm

... Plenty of experience with riding and snow. I confidently stand by statement that the roadway always stays more passable with greater comfort than paths and...
Kenneth O'Brien
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Mar 9, 2007
1:50 pm

... kinds It's not all about comfort and safety. Cycling can be uncomfortable, exciting and fun too. Have some fun in the snow. It's a gift. ... A geography...
thomas_d_church
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Mar 9, 2007
9:28 pm

... You seem to be arguing in circles. You claimed your choice of the path over the roadway was safety based in an earlier email. Now you seem to be saying the...
Kenneth O'Brien
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Mar 10, 2007
3:59 am

... I've never enjoyed falling--solo or otherwise, and I've rarely done it. Maybe you need training wheels. I know a cyclist who has had two major single...
Kat Iverson
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Mar 10, 2007
9:45 pm

... it. ... I haven't fallen on the road in 6 years. It was debris that took out my front tire when I was on my road bike, and it was scary because of the...
thomas_d_church
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Mar 11, 2007
7:03 am

... Could you provide the references to that rich body of evidence please? Thanks. (I suspect this is correct, by the way.... I just would like to have the...
Kenneth O'Brien
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Mar 9, 2007
2:06 am

... http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/environment/rectrails/rwt/ http://www.bicyclinginfo.org/rt/rails_w_trails.cfm Links to several other studies here: ...
Robert J. Matter
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Mar 9, 2007
2:30 am

... Thanks ... Right. Like I said... Something other than a rational examination of actual safety statistics on real public facilities of reasonable overall...
Kenneth O'Brien
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Mar 9, 2007
4:04 am

My interest in "punks on ATVs" is that I tried for years (despite not owning, nor wishing to own, an ATV myself) to prevent whining segregationists on mountain...
Tom Frost Jr.
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Mar 9, 2007
12:54 pm

push for vehicle rule behavior in pedestrian areas that invitation to bicyclists usually involves. I probably would not evaluate this idea as working well. I...
kob2@...
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Mar 9, 2007
2:49 pm

Sorry, that last email looks like it got trunctated somehow ====================================================== I did envision something that I assumed was...
Kenneth OBrien
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Mar 9, 2007
3:01 pm

In a message dated 3/8/2007 9:31:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, rjmatter@... writes: The more separation, the better. Not always. Rail trails and bike...
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