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As far as parking by the side of the road, portions of the bike lane on Spring Garden are in the road far enough for cars to park left of the lane - by design. The bike lane puts you right along side the parked cars!
(If you really want to get me started - I never had any problems along Bryan Blvd. before it was closed to cyclist! Wide w-i-d-e and smooth shoulders - Cars 10 to 12 feet away - gentle grades - high visibility - no parked cars there! - It was fast; it was safe; it was a no brainier!)
I like both the bike lanes and the "edge lines" (if that is the correct term), but they are no substitute for constant vigilance. There is no one answer; but I suggest the following as priorities:
1. Safe Bicycle Driver Education for Cyclist
2. Cycling awareness initiatives for auto drivers
3. A mix of cycling facilities (signs along critical bike routes, edge lines, bike lanes, separated bike lanes, bike paths...)
William Boyd
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From: Dale Brown <oroboyz@...>
To: jeffjc@...; triadcycling@googlegroups.com; bicycling_in_gso@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 1:19 am
Subject: [bicycling_in_gso] Was: Hit by a car door. Now: "bike lanes" on Hobbs road
<<Omar Young wrote:
I just thought I'd share my weird, kinda scary experience today: I was riding in the bike lane on Hobbs on my way to the greenway. I saw a car parked on the side of the road about 200 yards ahead of me so I pulled out of the bike lane into the road to give myself a good distance between my bike and the car I was about to pass. I must have been about 5 feet behind the car and a little more than 3 feet to the left of the car, going about 17mph when the door swung open. Before I could react, I was flung into the air and landed on my head. >>
Jeff wrote:
<< Now, what's the rule for cars parked in a bike lane? Is it a parking violation? Further, although the car wasn't moving, since it was in the bike lane, it forced Omar to move out of the proper lane. Then, with a sudden door opening, it created a second more serious safety issue. Could that be argued as a moving violation? Could it be argued that it is wreckless driving even? Am I wrong in thinking that this is actually two ticketable offenses?
Just curious, as I've seen people park for years on Hobbs between Westridge and Jefferson, and despite the new lane markings on the road, people still park there instead of in their driveways. It's especially a problem when you have three cars in a family.>>
Here's the problem, annoyingly those are not actually bike lanes. I forget the designated description used but the City has purposefully avoided calling them bike lanes. Apparently the Traffic & Transportation department decided the local residents there would not accept bike lanes with the accompanying inability to park or stop vehicles in them. Now we see the unsafe results of this halfway measure.
Dale Brown
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From: j <jeffjc@earthlink.
To: oyoungster@gmail.
Cc: Triad Ride List <triadcycling@
Sent: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 12:21 am
Subject: [Triad Cycling] Re: Hit by a car door.
Glad Omar is ok.
Now, what's the rule for cars parked in a bike lane? Is it a parking violation? Further, although the car wasn't moving, since it was in the bike lane, it forced Omar to move out of the proper lane. Then, with a sudden door op ening, it created a second more serious safety issue. Could that be argued as a moving violation? Could it be argued that it is wreckless driving even? Am I wrong in thinking that this is actually two ticketable offenses?
Just curious, as I've seen people park for years on Hobbs between Westridge and Jefferson, and despite the new lane markings on the road, people still park there instead of in their driveways. It's especially a problem when you have three cars in a family.
Jeff
Omar Young wrote:
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Now, what's the rule for cars parked in a bike lane? Is it a parking violation? Further, although the car wasn't moving, since it was in the bike lane, it forced Omar to move out of the proper lane. Then, with a sudden door op ening, it created a second more serious safety issue. Could that be argued as a moving violation? Could it be argued that it is wreckless driving even? Am I wrong in thinking that this is actually two ticketable offenses?
Just curious, as I've seen people park for years on Hobbs between Westridge and Jefferson, and despite the new lane markings on the road, people still park there instead of in their driveways. It's especially a problem when you have three cars in a family.
Jeff
Omar Young wrote:
I just thought I'd share my weird, kinda scary experience today: I was riding in the bike lane on Hobbs on my way to the greenway. I saw a car parked on the side of the road about 200 yards ahead of me so I pulled out of the bike lane into the road to give myself a good distance between my bike and the car I was about to pass. I must have been about 5 feet behind the car and a little more than 3 feet to the left of the car, going about 17mph when the door swung open. Before I could react, I was flung into the air and landed on my head. Some runners nearby called 911 and soon after, the fire dept, the paramedics and the police showed up to see me fine and walking. Great news: to everybody's amazement, made it out with a just few scratches, thanks to my helmet...and my bike seems to be fine. Her door, on the other hand, has a nice "fold" in i t, bends outward and will no longer close.
Results - Omar: 1, Car: 0.
Conclusion - wear a helmet!
Omar I. Young
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Guilford College
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