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#44884 From: Michelle Arney <michellearney@...>
Date: Mon Nov 23, 2009 1:36 am
Subject: used road bike?
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I have a friend looking to buy a used road bike...anyone selling?  Hoping to fit
a Female 5'7"
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#44883 From: "daveschuldt" <daveschuldt@...>
Date: Mon Nov 23, 2009 1:07 am
Subject: Duthie in the rain
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Another great day out there, rained most of the time. 4 of us worked on drainage
on Boot Camp. We could sure use some more help on the XC trails. It's really not
that bad working in the rain, a thermos of hot tea, an umbrella for breaks and a
wide brim hard hat make a huge difference. I also dug up yet another clump of
holly. Saw a few NW hardcore riders with lots of mud on them and their bikes.

#44882 From: "Bob Bournique" <bbtcrides@...>
Date: Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:05 pm
Subject: SPAM: Some off season shed cleaning
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Brand new 26" Velocity Synergy wheel set with new Continental Flow 2.3
tires/tubes. Never ridden. Disc only. $140



Brand new in the box Race Face Ride XC crank set. 170mm $60



Lightly used cockpit: Truvativ Hussefelt 60L 31.8C stem, WTB Race XR bar w/
SRAM X-7 and Intense Lock ons: say, $60 for all?



New, In the box 08-09 size 9 The One Flow Boa Coiler snowboard boots. Never
ridden: $50

Like these:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Flow-The-One-Lace-Snowboard-Boot-9-0_W0QQitemZ4000870085
83QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Snowboard_Boots?hash=item5d270b4547



Flow 09-10 M11 snowboard bindings, size large, lightly Ridden. $140

Like this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/2010-Flow-M11-Snowboard-Bindings-L-NEW_W0QQitemZ37029459
8840QQcmdZViewItemQQptZSnowboarding?hash=item5637472cb8



Not completely firm if you pick up.



Please reply off list. Thanks.



BBq





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#44881 From: KevinA <mtnwuff@...>
Date: Sun Nov 22, 2009 7:30 pm
Subject: Singlespeeders & Fixies in Winnipeg
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Spotted quite a few running around town.  Too bad I don't have enough time to
hook up w/ some locals for a little riding.  Oh well, at least its sunny over
here.

Goodby from sunny tropical Winnipeg.  Hey, temp is 6 degrees w/ winds at 16
klicks.  Break out the suntan lotion, eh!

Kevin
"A Caffeinated Hophead"




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#44880 From: Scott Wippermann <scott_wippermann@...>
Date: Sun Nov 22, 2009 7:21 pm
Subject: Re: Call for creativity: Need Trail Names
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Swamp Thing
Side Kick
The Joker
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From: "dankeiley@..." <dankeiley@...>
To: crtlnd_c@...; bbtcmembers@yahoogroups.com; oceanpup@...
Sent: Sun, November 22, 2009 9:30:12 AM
Subject: Re: Call for creativity: Need Trail Names




One Beer, Two Beers, Three Beers, etc. Implying how many calories are burned in
a lap on that particular trail

Stout, Nitro, Porter, Red Hook, etc, Merlot, Cabernet, Chardonnay. Reflecting
the personality of the trail.

Desert Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: courtland capwell <crtlnd_c@yahoo. com>
To: bbtcmembers@ yahoogroups. com; oceanpupp <oceanpup@gmail. com>
Sent: Sun, Nov 22, 2009 7:52 am
Subject: Re: Call for creativity: Need Trail Names

Astro-Glide. ..

LIVE  STRONG

--- On Sat, 11/21/09, oceanpupp <oceanpup@gmail. com> wrote:

From: oceanpupp <oceanpup@gmail. com>
Subject: Re: Call for creativity: Need Trail Names
To: bbtcmembers@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Saturday, November 21, 2009, 9:34 PM

good one Maarten!

just for fun, here're a few more...
(hey Mike, your email addy doesn't display, i guess yahoo is tryin to protect
you from the likes of ME)

rock, scissors, paper, uhh

spleen, liver, thyroid, rectum

mustard, mayo, ketchup, wasabi

E coli, H pylori, H1N1, common cold

wash, rinse, spin, dry

dandruff, booger, scab, cerumen

tarter, plaque, gingiva, cavity

follicle, cuticle, epidermal, subcutaneous

abscess, cyst, furuncle, carbuncle

jiminy, dixie, matthew, modine

matt, damon, ben, affleck

muddy, sloppy, sticky, icky

ouch!, yow!, owie!, booboo!

root canal, hip replacement, colonoscopy, upper GI

CAT scan, x-ray, spinal tap, blood test

blister, callous, puncture, laceration

p(nut), b(utter), and, j(elly)

ale, porter, stout, lager

narcotic, antibiotic, steroid, placebo

help, i, can't, stop!

g

--- In bbtcmembers@ yahoogroups. com, Maarten van Dantzich <mvd@...> wrote:
>
> >Moe, Larry, Curly, and Shemp. =)
>
> Curly, French, Garlic, and Steak.
>
> /Maarten.
>

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#44879 From: dankeiley@...
Date: Sun Nov 22, 2009 5:30 pm
Subject: Re: Call for creativity: Need Trail Names
dankeiley@...
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One Beer, Two Beers, Three Beers, etc. Implying how many calories are burned in
a lap on that particular trail

Stout, Nitro, Porter, Red Hook, etc, Merlot, Cabernet, Chardonnay. Reflecting
the personality of the trail.

Desert Dan




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From: courtland capwell <crtlnd_c@...>
To: bbtcmembers@yahoogroups.com; oceanpupp <oceanpup@...>
Sent: Sun, Nov 22, 2009 7:52 am
Subject: Re: Call for creativity: Need Trail Names




Astro-Glide...

        LIVE  STRONG

--- On Sat, 11/21/09, oceanpupp <oceanpup@...> wrote:

From: oceanpupp <oceanpup@...>
Subject: Re: Call for creativity: Need Trail Names
To: bbtcmembers@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, November 21, 2009, 9:34 PM



good one Maarten!

just for fun, here're a few more...
(hey Mike, your email addy doesn't display, i guess yahoo is tryin to protect
you from the likes of ME)

rock, scissors, paper, uhh

spleen, liver, thyroid, rectum

mustard, mayo, ketchup, wasabi

E coli, H pylori, H1N1, common cold

wash, rinse, spin, dry

dandruff, booger, scab, cerumen

tarter, plaque, gingiva, cavity

follicle, cuticle, epidermal, subcutaneous

abscess, cyst, furuncle, carbuncle

jiminy, dixie, matthew, modine

matt, damon, ben, affleck

muddy, sloppy, sticky, icky

ouch!, yow!, owie!, booboo!

root canal, hip replacement, colonoscopy, upper GI

CAT scan, x-ray, spinal tap, blood test

blister, callous, puncture, laceration

p(nut), b(utter), and, j(elly)

ale, porter, stout, lager

narcotic, antibiotic, steroid, placebo

help, i, can't, stop!

g

--- In bbtcmembers@ yahoogroups. com, Maarten van Dantzich <mvd@...> wrote:
>
> >Moe, Larry, Curly, and Shemp. =)
>
> Curly, French, Garlic, and Steak.
>
> /Maarten.
>

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#44878 From: courtland capwell <crtlnd_c@...>
Date: Sun Nov 22, 2009 3:52 pm
Subject: Re: Call for creativity: Need Trail Names
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Astro-Glide...


       LIVE  STRONG     

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From: oceanpupp <oceanpup@...>
Subject: Re: Call for creativity: Need Trail Names
To: bbtcmembers@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, November 21, 2009, 9:34 PM


 



good one Maarten!

just for fun, here're a few more...
(hey Mike, your email addy doesn't display, i guess yahoo is tryin to protect
you from the likes of ME)

rock, scissors, paper, uhh

spleen, liver, thyroid, rectum

mustard, mayo, ketchup, wasabi

E coli, H pylori, H1N1, common cold

wash, rinse, spin, dry

dandruff, booger, scab, cerumen

tarter, plaque, gingiva, cavity

follicle, cuticle, epidermal, subcutaneous

abscess, cyst, furuncle, carbuncle

jiminy, dixie, matthew, modine

matt, damon, ben, affleck

muddy, sloppy, sticky, icky

ouch!, yow!, owie!, booboo!

root canal, hip replacement, colonoscopy, upper GI

CAT scan, x-ray, spinal tap, blood test

blister, callous, puncture, laceration

p(nut), b(utter), and, j(elly)

ale, porter, stout, lager

narcotic, antibiotic, steroid, placebo

help, i, can't, stop!

g

--- In bbtcmembers@ yahoogroups. com, Maarten van Dantzich <mvd@...> wrote:
>
> >Moe, Larry, Curly, and Shemp. =)
>
> Curly, French, Garlic, and Steak.
>
> /Maarten.
>











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#44877 From: "oceanpupp" <oceanpup@...>
Date: Sun Nov 22, 2009 5:34 am
Subject: Re: Call for creativity: Need Trail Names
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good one Maarten!

just for fun, here're a few more...
(hey Mike, your email addy doesn't display, i guess yahoo is tryin to protect
you from the likes of ME)

rock, scissors, paper, uhh

spleen, liver, thyroid, rectum

mustard, mayo, ketchup, wasabi

E coli, H pylori, H1N1, common cold

wash, rinse, spin, dry

dandruff, booger, scab, cerumen

tarter, plaque, gingiva, cavity

follicle, cuticle, epidermal, subcutaneous

abscess, cyst, furuncle, carbuncle

jiminy, dixie, matthew, modine

matt, damon, ben, affleck

muddy, sloppy, sticky, icky

ouch!, yow!, owie!, booboo!

root canal, hip replacement, colonoscopy, upper GI

CAT scan, x-ray, spinal tap, blood test

blister, callous, puncture, laceration

p(nut), b(utter), and, j(elly)

ale, porter, stout, lager

narcotic, antibiotic, steroid, placebo

help, i, can't, stop!

g



--- In bbtcmembers@yahoogroups.com, Maarten van Dantzich <mvd@...> wrote:
>
>  >Moe, Larry, Curly, and Shemp. =)
>
> Curly, French, Garlic, and Steak.
>
> /Maarten.
>

#44876 From: Maarten van Dantzich <mvd@...>
Date: Sun Nov 22, 2009 1:36 am
Subject: Re: Call for creativity: Need Trail Names
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>Moe, Larry, Curly, and Shemp. =)

Curly, French, Garlic, and Steak.

/Maarten.

#44875 From: Ross Wolin <gulchrider@...>
Date: Sun Nov 22, 2009 1:18 am
Subject: Re: Call for creativity: Need Trail Names
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Moe, Larry, Curly, and Shemp. =)

====================


> Are you tired of referring to the Duthie XC trails as Bootcamp, NE, SW
> and NW XC? Help us find some awesome trail names. Preferably a common
> theme for the 4, but not necessary.
>
> Here are a few ideas to get the creative juices going...
>
> * Tragedies: "Armageddon, Slaughterhouse, Natural Disaster, and
> Catastrophe"? (Naaaah!)
> * Trees: "Cedar, Fir, Hemlock and Maple"? (Booooring!)
> * Heavenly theme: "Valhalla, Paradise, Utopia, Enlightenment,
> Olympus"? (Yuk.)
> * Characters: "Cartman, Stan, Kyle and Kenny"? (OK, so that's my
> favorite show of all time.)
> * How about STDs? "Let's go hit the Syphilis Trail". Or "No more
> Gonorrhea... too wet right now... let's go try the Herpes Loop"
>
> OK, so now you see why I need help??!! Surf around to see what's out
> there to get ideas. In fact, we'll make it worth your while! How about
> a contest...
>
> Contest with fabulous prizes:
>
> * Winner gets a pair of Native Eyewear sunglasses
> (http://www.nativeyewear.com/eyewear/sunglasses/list
> <http://www.nativeyewear.com/eyewear/sunglasses/list>) -- choose
> between Gonzo, Sprint or Bomber models.
> * Runner up gets some awesome NikWax water-proofing
> (http://www.nikwax.com/en-us/index.php
> <http://www.nikwax.com/en-us/index.php>) products.
> * Email to mwestra@...
> <mailto:mwestra%40evergreenmtb.org> -- put "XC Trail Name" in the
> subject (I'll set up a rule to send 'em emails to a specific folder,
> so if you don't include that in the subject, I may not get it).
> * Deadline for submissions: Dec 7th.
> * Winners selected by Jan 31st 2010... probably sooner than that.
>
> Fine Print: Must pick up your prize from Evergreen office, Duthie or
> Colonnade. No guarantee that the winning trail names won't be changed
> later. In fact, no guarantee of anything really. Let's just have fun
> and see what we come up with.
>
>

#44874 From: "klownprinze" <klownprinze@...>
Date: Sun Nov 22, 2009 1:09 am
Subject: Newberry Heritage Park Master Planning
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Send comments for Newberry Hill Heritage Park to NewberryHill@...

They're looking for community input into the process.  For example, let them
know you want passive use, which includes mountain biking.

#44873 From: Mark Klinke <herrklinke@...>
Date: Sat Nov 21, 2009 4:30 am
Subject: Reverse SPAM: WTB Suspension Fork
herrklinke@...
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Converting a friends older MTB and would like to get him a fork that actually
works.  If anyone has a 1 1/8" X 8+" length steerer tube, 80 mm'ish travel
spring or air fork I'd be interested depending on price.  Headset  is a bonus. 
Please reply off list.

Mark K.

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#44872 From: Mike Garrison <mizm05@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:34 am
Subject: Re: Call for creativity: Need Trail Names
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Hmmmm...since there's critters in them there woods how about...

Yogi
Boo Boo
Snagglepuss
Huckleberry Hound


???





 



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From: mwestra2 <mwestra2@...>
To: bbtcmembers@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 2:15:56 PM
Subject: Call for creativity: Need Trail Names

 
Are you tired of referring to the Duthie XC trails as Bootcamp, NE, SW and NW
XC? Help us find some awesome trail names. Preferably a common theme for the 4,
but not necessary.

Here are a few ideas to get the creative juices going...

* Tragedies: "Armageddon, Slaughterhouse, Natural Disaster, and Catastrophe" ?
(Naaaah!)
* Trees: "Cedar, Fir, Hemlock and Maple"? (Booooring!)
* Heavenly theme: "Valhalla, Paradise, Utopia, Enlightenment, Olympus"? (Yuk.)
* Characters: "Cartman, Stan, Kyle and Kenny"? (OK, so that's my favorite show
of all time.)
* How about STDs? "Let's go hit the Syphilis Trail". Or "No more Gonorrhea...
too wet right now... let's go try the Herpes Loop"

OK, so now you see why I need help??!! Surf around to see what's out there to
get ideas. In fact, we'll make it worth your while! How about a contest...

Contest with fabulous prizes:

* Winner gets a pair of Native Eyewear sunglasses
(http://www.nativeyewear.com/eyewear/sunglasses/list) -- choose between Gonzo,
Sprint or Bomber models.
* Runner up gets some awesome NikWax water-proofing (http://www.nikwax.
com/en-us/ index.php) products.
* Email to mwestra@evergreenmt b.org -- put "XC Trail Name" in the subject (I'll
set up a rule to send 'em emails to a specific folder, so if you don't include
that in the subject, I may not get it).
* Deadline for submissions: Dec 7th.
* Winners selected by Jan 31st 2010... probably sooner than that.

Fine Print: Must pick up your prize from Evergreen office, Duthie or Colonnade.
No guarantee that the winning trail names won't be changed later. In fact, no
guarantee of anything really. Let's just have fun and see what we come up with.







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#44871 From: "mwestra2" <mwestra2@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:15 pm
Subject: Call for creativity: Need Trail Names
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Are you tired of referring to the Duthie XC trails as Bootcamp, NE, SW and NW
XC? Help us find some awesome trail names. Preferably a common theme for the 4,
but not necessary.

Here are a few ideas to get the creative juices going...

     * Tragedies: "Armageddon, Slaughterhouse, Natural Disaster, and
Catastrophe"? (Naaaah!)
     * Trees: "Cedar, Fir, Hemlock and Maple"? (Booooring!)
     * Heavenly theme: "Valhalla, Paradise, Utopia, Enlightenment, Olympus"?
(Yuk.)
     * Characters: "Cartman, Stan, Kyle and Kenny"? (OK, so that's my favorite
show of all time.)
     * How about STDs? "Let's go hit the Syphilis Trail". Or "No more
Gonorrhea... too wet right now... let's go try the Herpes Loop"

OK, so now you see why I need help??!! Surf around to see what's out there to
get ideas. In fact, we'll make it worth your while! How about a contest...

Contest with fabulous prizes:

     * Winner gets a pair of Native Eyewear sunglasses
(http://www.nativeyewear.com/eyewear/sunglasses/list) -- choose between Gonzo,
Sprint or Bomber models.
     * Runner up gets some awesome NikWax water-proofing
(http://www.nikwax.com/en-us/index.php) products.
     * Email to mwestra@... -- put "XC Trail Name" in the subject
(I'll set up a rule to send 'em emails to a specific folder, so if you don't
include that in the subject, I may not get it).
     * Deadline for submissions: Dec 7th.
     * Winners selected by Jan 31st 2010... probably sooner than that.

Fine Print: Must pick up your prize from Evergreen office, Duthie or Colonnade.
No guarantee that the winning trail names won't be changed later. In fact, no
guarantee of anything really. Let's just have fun and see what we come up with.

#44870 From: "DanF" <danfenton@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:56 pm
Subject: Indoor winter bike riding... $45.00 a year!
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After seeing the 4X MTB promo for the races out at the Peninsula A.B.A. BMX
arena...I thought what an Idea! I used to race BMX when I was a kid. Well, since
the 4X MTB races where only one Saturday a month there. And The BMX races are
every Fri. Sat. and Sunday...I decided to build a 24" BMX race bike!... INDOOR
JUMPS AND BERMS for a nominal $45.00 a year membership,and a $15.00 day of race
sign up fee... Oh ya, AND for 5 bucks on Tues. and Wed. nights you can just go
and ride (no race)...So when there is Ice on the ground and you just cant take
the cabin fever... Take your hard tail out for some indoor dirt action!

#44869 From: "mwestra2" <mwestra2@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:50 pm
Subject: Re: Duthie Mud Management
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Thanks for the pics, Ralph. The water levels in the swamp are at record levels.
Definitely higher than anything I've seen in the last 2 years. Plus, I can no
longer see the high water level markers King County put in many moons ago. Don't
know if there's anything other than rain contributing to it... beaver dam maybe?
If anybody owns a pair of hip waders and wants to walk downstream and check out
the situation, it would be most appreciated.

Thanks for the help yesterday Ralph, Linda, Angela, JD, David (aka Crash) and
anyone I missed. I'm guessing the job is between 1/4 and 1/3 complete.

The highly technical process is:
1) sling muck
2) dump crushed.

Ok, we need some help completing this task, so a little more detail:
1) scrape muck into pile
2) scoop up and sling it as far away as possible
3) haul in and dump crushed rock
4) spread the crushed into a crown shape at least 3" deep in the middle
5) tamp it down.

If anybody is heading to Duthie to ride and wants to get started on that, throw
a shovel in your car and take a few minutes to sling some muck -- it'd be a big
help :)

Thanks,
Mike

#44868 From: "underwoodralph" <ralph.u@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:41 pm
Subject: Duthie Mud Management
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Some of the mud on the north access trail/path from the parking area at
the lodge has been converted to gravel through a highly technical
process developed by Mike Westra. I have some pictures here
<http://www.bikes.ruresearch.com/>   that show the new gravel and a few
that show how deep the water is along the boardwalk.  Some place it is
about 16" deep.



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#44867 From: "mwestra2" <mwestra2@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:35 pm
Subject: Re: To clear or not to clear
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Clear!

Thanks, Bob. Great explanation. Riding and hiking on a pine needle carpet (fir
or hemlock around here) through the woods is an awesome experience, but with
heavy traffic it will quickly degrade to slop. The effects of riding on organic
are so obvious at Duthie... especially on the more deciduous east side of the
park.

Of course, just clearing the organic off the trail isn't the only problem on the
NE and Bootcamp trails at Duthie... we need to go back over the trail and work
on drainage and proper outslope/backslope.

Segue...

So join a work party and help us get the eastside XC trails in shape. :) We've
had so much continuous rain that we may have to close a big chunk of the NE
trail until it has a chance to dry out. We need your help. We're going to try to
get WPs going on both Sat & Sun through the winter.

If you can come out during the week to help, shoot me an email
mwestra@... and let me know what days/time work.

Thanks,
Mike

#44866 From: donnell wiley <donnellwiley88@...>
Date: Wed Nov 18, 2009 11:55 pm
Subject: fungus info
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Greetings,

Just incase anyone is curious about the trippy looking mushrooms in the forest
go to , cascaderamblings.com , this is alittle off subjact but a break from the
norm since the weather gods are less than perfect this fall we can catch up on
some reading.See ya.
Donnell....




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#44865 From: Dan Fenton <danfenton@...>
Date: Mon Nov 16, 2009 7:01 pm
Subject: Re:To clear or not to clear?
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Good info, thanks. For those of us new to the group, and know little about
anything beyond "riding" trails. The A B C's are important for you "vets" to
share with us newbies so we can spread the word to other newbies... And as far
as a 2 stroke blower goes... Blow, Blow like 3 drunk WSU chearleaders. (Sorry,
there's no children that read this blog is there?..lol)

#44864 From: KevinA <mtnwuff@...>
Date: Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:29 pm
Subject: Perrigo Heights / Nike Park?
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Anyone been over that way recently (side varient of the Thrilla)?  There's a
trail at the bottom of the new developement but it just leads up into the
cul-de-sac.  Do you have to ride the roads over there now?

Kevin
"A Caffeinated Hophead"




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#44863 From: "PETERSON, PRESTON J (ATTSI)" <pp7551@...>
Date: Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:40 pm
Subject: Helen's Fest 2010 !
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I know its tough coming into a wet cold November after a great year of
mountain biking to already be thinking of next year's good times, but I
have some big news about summer 2010.



Helens Fest !



Helens Fest will be a joint venture of Evergreen and the Northwest
Trails Assocation(NWTA) Portland's offroad bicycling club.

  Information below - put it on your calendars and request your vacations
now !



July 9-11,



http://evergreenmtb.org/recreation/calendar.php?event_id=8223



Announcing the Mount St. Helens Advocacy Fest 2010 ! This active volcano
and its surroundings contain epic backcountry adventures for all level
of riders. From lunar plains to old growth forest, Helens offfers
spectacular scenery and exciting riding for everyone. Helens Fest is a
new concept in fun and advocacy brought to you by Evergreen Mountain
Bike Alliance (Evergreen) and the Northwest Trails Assocation (NWTA).
Mountain bikers from 5 different states will be converging on Marble
Mountain Snow Park for camping and good times. There will be multiple
guided/group rides for all different levels, events, prizes, and demos
(imagine comparing new bikes on REAL mountain terrain).
More Info:

Sandwiched between two epic days of riding, Saturday will host the
biggest most bitchin' trail work party ever. Working with the Forest
Service and the Mount St. Helen's institute we'll show bicyclist's
commitment to the Monument and protect our access no matter what the
future holds. This summer will mark the 30th anniversary of the big
eruption and we'll make it worth your while to come out and give back -
and with so many bodies and preparation we will make a big difference on
some singletrack mileage ! Besides the official 3 days of the event, I
personally plan on adding more days of epic big mountain riding and I
encourage other groups and leaders to do the same whether it be Juniper
Ridge or the Lewis River. Its still early but we'll be posting a full
roster of riding for Friday and Sunday. The dates are July 9-11 so sign
up to get information and mark it on your vacation calendars for next
year as it will be 3 days or more of epic mountain bike camraderie,
advocacy and backcountry experience. Please sign up for the 9th and we
will use that as our email information list. The 10th and 11th are just
placemarkers on the calendar. Note my name may be listed as ride leader
on this posting, but I'm just one of many people helping put on this
great event.





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#44862 From: Bob Hollander <bmhollan@...>
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 9:51 pm
Subject: Thought for Today: Spam
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Make today a better day by treating yourself to an almost brand new
medium sized 2008 Intense Socom. This is a sweet deal because you can
have a complete bike for the price of the frame. Please send me an email
off line or go see the bike at Fluidride on Tuesday; the bike is race /
ride ready; everything is in as new condition. Please take this bike
away for 2400 dollars or best offer.
bobh

#44861 From: "Bob Bournique" <bbtcrides@...>
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:08 pm
Subject: To clear or not to clear
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Just a follow up because I always seem to get some feedback whenever I post
about raking or blowing off organic materials from the trail beds this time
of year.



Yes, trails free and clear of organic materials make better, more
sustainable trails. It's pure science. And, not the rocket variety.



Leaving organics on the trails does not "help" them in any way. With the
occasional exceptions when the soils are really rocky or gravelly and some
organic helps bind it together. Though, this is fairly rare. Even around
here.

Organics retain moisture and thus break down into classic PNW  "goo". This
keeps the moisture on the trail bed and does not allow it to sheet or funnel
off. This also keeps the trails from drying out faster one the rains abate.
Blowers also do a better job getting the organics that make their way
through the tines of a rake.



The trails in the area which are the most sustainable have the least amount
of deciduous growth (lot o' leaves) and typically more gravelly soils. Think
Griffin versus Beaver Lake for example.



So, whether on an organized work party or on your own, anyone can do a big
help by clearing drains on your rides or getting out with a leaf rake or
"gasp" a leaf blower and ensure that the local trail systems we enjoy so
much are in their best shape during the wet season and will recover quicker
in the spring. Even using a shoe to kick out the  small mud berms that form
in low spots this time of year can be helpful by allowing standing water to
clear the trail bed. And, lastly, to the 2 cycle nay sayers, I simply say,
if you want to rake a trail all day long that can get blown off in less than
an hour, go for it...



Thanks,



BBq



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#44860 From: "Enduro" <dougwalsh@...>
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 3:32 pm
Subject: Re: Skookum's last stand
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Wait a second! People get the day off work for Veteran's day?

Who knew?

--- In bbtcmembers@yahoogroups.com, raymond hobi <raymondtrainerironmind@...>
wrote:
>
> I went out to Skookum on Veteran's Day (which happens to be my birthday).
Where were
> you all. I didn't see one other person, hiker or mtn biker, all day. I did see
plenty of skiers
> and snowboarders up at Crystal. Could it be that you've all given up riding,
this early in the
> year? Has every fair weather cyclist logged on to www.technoslave.com,
becoming scraggly haired, paunchy M&M eating video geeks playing "Warcraft" or
some other
> equally useless video game? Eyes glassed over and mind numb from too much time
> staring at a bright, unblinking computer screen? Texting meaningless messages
> to supposed friends or accquaintances who could really care less? Tweeting to
anyone
> who will listen the intricacies of your last bowel movement? What's the
matter, honey.
> Do you want your mommy to bundle you up and send you out into the frightening
world
> with a cup of hot cocoa? Wait a minute. I know. Let me go out and buy you a
sun dress
> and a parasol so you can sashay your pretty little self about the town square!
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

#44859 From: "Bob Bournique" <bbtcrides@...>
Date: Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:36 pm
Subject: Tokul-East RR
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Cold and clear up top. Not many people at all out ( 1 equestrian and one
group of 3 on the climb) and good trail conditions overall. Safety First had
the most puddles. Bucket brigade time again.Gun Range had a light dusting of
snow so despite not heading up to the pass this morning, I still got some
first tracks. ;) Bandwagon is riding in really well and makes for a great
singletrack climb back up to the 30130 road. All in all, good conditions
like usual and a quick group meant all the usuals and back to the TH in just
a couple hours. No new blow downs either which is always nice.



Back in time for the kid's soccer game too. Family support bo-nus!



BBq



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#44858 From: Scott Wippermann <scott_wippermann@...>
Date: Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:32 pm
Subject: Re: Skookum's last stand
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I'm trying to keep my tires clean for the Macy's Parade.




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From: raymond hobi <raymondtrainerironmind@...>
To: mountain bike <bbtcmembers@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: raymondtrainerironmind@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, November 14, 2009 2:12:26 PM
Subject: Skookum's last stand


I went out to Skookum on Veteran's Day (which happens to be my birthday). Where
were
you all. I didn't see one other person, hiker or mtn biker, all day. I did see
plenty of skiers
and snowboarders up at Crystal. Could it be that you've all given up riding,
this early in the
year? Has every fair weather cyclist logged on to www.technoslave. com, becoming
scraggly haired, paunchy M&M eating video geeks playing "Warcraft" or some other
equally useless video game? Eyes glassed over and mind numb from too much time
staring at a bright, unblinking computer screen? Texting meaningless messages
to supposed friends or accquaintances who could really care less? Tweeting to
anyone
who will listen the intricacies of your last bowel movement? What's the matter,
honey.
Do you want your mommy to bundle you up and send you out into the frightening
world
with a cup of hot cocoa? Wait a minute. I know. Let me go out and buy you a sun
dress
and a parasol so you can sashay your pretty little self about the town square!

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#44857 From: "Bob Bournique" <bbtcrides@...>
Date: Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:30 pm
Subject: PVCA got some 2 cycle love
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North end PV aficionados will notice that the Southern Traverse and Cedar
Run are back down to the good mineral soils for the winter. Hopefully more
clearing to come.

Of note is the section East of the Lloyd Trail junction (The old,
"Crossover" Trail.) that could use a de-mucking with a shovel if anyone can
get to that. The rest is in pretty good shape!



BBq



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#44856 From: raymond hobi <raymondtrainerironmind@...>
Date: Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:12 pm
Subject: Skookum's last stand
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I went out to Skookum on Veteran's Day (which happens to be my birthday). Where
were
you all. I didn't see one other person, hiker or mtn biker, all day. I did see
plenty of skiers
and snowboarders up at Crystal. Could it be that you've all given up riding,
this early in the
year? Has every fair weather cyclist logged on to www.technoslave.com, becoming
scraggly haired, paunchy M&M eating video geeks playing "Warcraft" or some other
equally useless video game? Eyes glassed over and mind numb from too much time
staring at a bright, unblinking computer screen? Texting meaningless messages
to supposed friends or accquaintances who could really care less? Tweeting to
anyone
who will listen the intricacies of your last bowel movement? What's the matter,
honey.
Do you want your mommy to bundle you up and send you out into the frightening
world
with a cup of hot cocoa? Wait a minute. I know. Let me go out and buy you a sun
dress
and a parasol so you can sashay your pretty little self about the town square!




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#44855 From: Troy Kasper <tnkasper@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:43 pm
Subject: Re: Another Reiter Pit meeting
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I was going to do my best to attend this one.

On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 3:36 PM, PETERSON, PRESTON J (ATTSI) <pp7551@...
> wrote:

>
>
> I feel bad but its not my fault - I posted a Reiter Pit meeting about 2
> weeks ago but that meeting ended up not being that important - it was
> mostly for discussing the closure of the Reiter riding area for the
> winter for reclamation activities. This meeting is really the one to
> attend ont eh future of the Pit. I've looked at the plan and its
> prettery generic. It does have a set aside area specifically for bicycle
> recreation but the general plan is pretty vague. I will be attending
> this meeting as its our chance to talk directly to the DNR folk. It
> looks okay for bicyclists, although I lament the loss of the last fun,
> freewheeling outdoor area in the PNW, as they are now moving towards a
> formal recreation plan complete with the normal enforcement and
> excessive regulation that seems to be required for anyplace near large
> metro areas.
>
> Here is the url for the recreation plan:
>
> http://www.dnr.wa.gov/ResearchScience/Topics/SEPANonProject/Pages/amp_se
> pa_nonpro_reiter_jan.aspx
>
> After I attend the meeting (and I encourage all of you to attend and see
> what is up or at least read the recreation plan) I will post up a
> reminder to comment with some salient points. Even though the plan is
> generic and favorable to bicyclists, it is important to "keep up the
> pressure" and make sure they know there is a lot of us interested and
> supportive of bicycle opportunites.
>
> Keep in mind that although most of you haven't ridden Reiter because its
> always been a gnarly challenging place, as this plan goes forward there
> will be regular normal singletrack trails being built for cyclists with
> no motorized use, and the views and terrain are awesome , and its only
> 50 minutes from the eastside, so it represents an enormous opportunity
> for some close in "backcountry" style riding.
>
> here are the details on the meeting:
>
> OLYMPIA - The Washington State Department of Natural Resources (DNR)
> will host a public meeting to provide information and receive public
> comments on a draft recreation plan for the Reiter Foothills Forest.
> Reiter Foothills Forest is a popular recreation area located in eastern
> Snohomish County near Gold Bar and Index.
>
> When: Wednesday, November 18, 6:30 to 8 p.m.
>
> Where: The Commons, Monroe High School, 17001 Tester Rd., Monroe In
> 2007,
>
> The Washington State Legislature recognized the challenges of managing
> recreational use at Reiter Foothills Forest and funded DNR's development
> of a sustainable recreation plan. For the past two years, DNR has worked
> with a diverse group of stakeholders-including citizens, user groups,
> representatives from conservation groups, and local officials-to create
> a recreation plan that identifies long-term recreation uses and
> addresses problems in the area. The DNR recreation plan is here :
> http://www.dnr.wa.gov/ResearchScience/Topics/SEPANonProject/Pages/amp_se
> pa_nonpro_reiter_jan.aspx DNR is requesting feedback from the public
> about the findings and recommendations in this plan. In conjunction with
> the public review of the plan, DNR is also conducting an official State
> Environmental Policy Act (SEPA) process. The public comment period runs
> from November 10 through December 4. For more information about the
> meeting, contact Candace Johnson, 360-854-2803 or
> candace.johnson@... <candace.johnson%40dnr.wa.gov>. The public can
> provide all written comments
> about the Reiter Foothills Forest Recreation Plan or the SEPA
> environmental analysis to: Washington State Department of Natural
> Resources SEPA Center PO Box 47105 Olympia, WA 98504
> sepacenter@... <sepacenter%40dnr.wa.gov>
>
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>
>
>


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