I see a lot of groups in Oakland, the Peninsula, etc. but none in SF proper.
Anyone up for practice on Tuesday and/or Thursday mornings at GG Park? I am a
cross newbie, looking to get some practice. Need that extra push of having other
cross folks around, plus some ideas of where to practice. Reply to thread or
email me. Happy racing!
I had a few moments of frustration last night when I was sort of, um, gruff with
a few riders as I was lapping them and they refused to let us by. I'd like to
apologize for that, and I'd like to thank the courteous riders who did a good
job of yielding the course as we passed.
I normally try really hard to be polite and give good warning when I lap, but it
became such a problem last night that I lost my cool a couple times.
Tom included a few words about how racers should act if they end up getting
lapped when we were getting our instructions at the start. To encounter selfish
riders who refused to yield in spite of this was infuriating.
I realize that lapped riders will continue to affect the outcome of our men's A
race (and probably lots of other classes as well), but I hope that we can
cultivate a sense of responsibility for minimizing that unfortunate result of
our large fields. With that in mind, I'll do my best to pass carefully and
cordially (and if I'm the one getting lapped, you can bet that I'll yield THE
WHOLE TRACK).
-Josh Snead
A guy went down on the last lap of B, SSB's last night. Crash was at the bottom of disco hill and it looked bad. Anyone know if he's OK? Hope all is well...
I have a set of deep dish carbon tubeies, cane creek with Sapim spokes.
$350 offerÂ
wheat 408-202-3383
5 piece sram carbon force $ 400.00
--- On Sat, 11/14/09, nota925r <peter.rudolph@...> wrote:
From: nota925r <peter.rudolph@...> Subject: [bayareacyclocross] Looking for a set of rims To: bayareacyclocross@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, November 14, 2009, 7:08 PM
Â
Hey Y'all,
I bent my rear rim at the BASP #3 today and need a set of clinchers. If anyone has an affordable set they want to part with please let me know.
I've been lurking for a few weeks now, but I guess it's time to introduce myself.
1) David Ahn
2) Men's C
3) San Francisco (Hayes Valley)
4) 4 bikes: a. 1974 Raleigh Super Course: set up as a fixed-gear eight years ago but not quite rideable after three years languishing in a nj garage b. 2001 Lemond Poprad: up until last week, my everything bike (snow/ice commuter, trail, double century) but now a singlespeed cyclocross bike (thanks to the magic of the White Industries eccentric hub)
c. 2009 Bike Friday Season Tikit: folding commuter with an 8-speed Nexus rear hub and a Schmidt generator front hub d. 2009 Access 29er hardtail: my first MTB ...
5) This is my first season racing cyclocross, although I did do one of the Soil Saloon races in 2008.
6) Not looking for anything cross-specific, although I am now in the market for a geared road bike
7) The Soil Saloon race I did last year in GGP was my first race experience of any kind, and while I finished way at the back of the pack, I had a blast and did manage to win the side competition, which was a singing contest(!).
Hey Y'all,
I bent my rear rim at the BASP #3 today and need a set of clinchers. If anyone
has an affordable set they want to part with please let me know.
Thanks.
Peter
Sorry for the SPAM, but I accidently left my new white series leader jersey at the race tonight. It's a size S. If you see it or happened to pick it up, please let me know off-line.
Cheers--thanks to all for coming out to support a great race!
Jamie Schoenborn Team Roaring Mouse
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I was...but I didn't check my email before I went. Sorry...still interested? I can mail them if you pay for shipping. Where do you live?
Brian
--- On Sat, 11/14/09, Matthias Behrends <zyclopath@...> wrote:
From: Matthias Behrends <zyclopath@...> Subject: Re: [bayareacyclocross] Brakes For Sale To: bayareacyclocross@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, November 14, 2009, 2:20 PM
I want them. Are you gonna be at Sierra Point today?
So apparently the results tonight for Men's C's listed me as coming in 6th at Sierra Pt. Woooo! Interestingly, I wasn't AT the race tonight! (home sick with strep throat) So .. if somebody out there was given the number 267 (my number for the series), and did well in Men's C's tonight but doesn't see their result, I guess that's what happened.
We're using FMB Boyau Cottons (34)
http://www.worldclasscycles.com/fmb_boyaux_cotton_cyclocross_ssc.htm
& Tufo Flexis Primus (32)
http://www.everybicycletire.com/Shopping/ps-1822-55-700-x-32-tufo-flexus-primus-\
32-tubular-622.aspx
right now, love them! (the ones you rode on my bike were the FMBs)
-mm
--- In bayareacyclocross@yahoogroups.com, Joe Miller <joecrosstime@...> wrote:
>
> I've found what really works better than any of the describes methods is to
do this:
>
> DAY ONE:Â Take your wheels to Josh Snead's...
> DAY TWO: Have a beer, watch some TV, go out for a ride...
> DAY THREE: Go fishing, watch a movie, ride, take a nap...
> DAY FOUR: Go pick up sweet, professionally glued wheels for a good price...
> Â Joe Miller
> joecrosstime@...
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "j.and@..." <j.and@...>
> To: bayareacyclocross@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, November 13, 2009 11:42:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [bayareacyclocross] Going tubular
>
> Â
> Best tip I have heard yet (the electrical tape). Another that has come in
handy is to use a syringe for filling in any spots that may be of concern. CVS
pharmacy has been a good sorce for free syringes. These also work well for
filling tires with sealant.
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> ________________________________
>
> From: brian.birch@ kp.org
> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:41:29 -0800
> To: <bayareacyclocross@ yahoogroups. com>
> Cc: <bayareacyclocross@ yahoogroups. com>
> Subject: Re: [bayareacyclocross] Going tubular
> Â
>
> The just gluing works for me too. Â Folks may have better methods to gluing
but this one worked for me. Â http://cxmagazine. com/howto- gluing-tubular-
cyclocross- tires  Since I am not as neat as I could be the electrical tape
masking is worth the up-front time.
>
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> Morgan Fletcher <morgan@hahaha. org>
> Sent by: bayareacyclocross@ yahoogroups. com
> 11/13/2009 10:31 AM
> Please respond to
> bayareacyclocross@ yahoogroups. com
> To bayareacyclocross@ yahoogroups. com
> cc
> Subject Re: [bayareacyclocross] Going tubular
>
>
>
>
> Â
> You can also just glue the Tufos on your rims. That's what Lauren and I do. I
have also rolled Tufos attached with standard Tufo tape. (+ glue)
>
> Morgan
>
> On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Ted Ketai <tketai@gmail. com> wrote:
> Â
> and if you get tufo's you need the tape AND glue. I rode mine with just the
tape at first and both tires rolled almost immediately.
>
> On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Morgan Fletcher <morgan@hahaha. org> wrote:
> Â
> Ditto! Also the Tufo Flexus is a good all-around tire. Both are also
relatively good values. There are cheaper tires and there are nicer tires, those
two are good bang for the buck.
>
> In either case, a little sealant is a good idea for the Challenge and a must
for the Tufo. (Tufos don't have inner tubes, just sealed casings.)
>
> And while we're talking; Vittoria Mastik One is the good glue. Don't use too
little, or better yet, have Ryan glue them. If you glue them roadie-style
there's a chance you won't have enough bond for cyclocross.Â
>
> Morgan
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Ryan <ryancbontrager@ yahoo.com> wrote:
> Â
> Challenge Grifo in 34 are what a lot of my riders pick as their top rubber
choice for all conditions.Â
>
> On Nov 13, 2009, at 9:46 AM, "just4cyclinggroups" <onepushybroad@ gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> Â
> I'm finally going tubular. Rather late in the season I know. Deciding which
tires to buy. Here's the $10,000 question: Which tires are good in mud and dry?
Impossible? Thanks! Winona
>
I've found what really works better than any of the describes methods is to do this:
DAY ONE: Take your wheels to Josh Snead's...
DAY TWO: Have a beer, watch some TV, go out for a ride...
DAY THREE: Go fishing, watch a movie, ride, take a nap...
DAY FOUR: Go pick up sweet, professionally glued wheels for a good price...
Joe Miller joecrosstime@...
From: "j.and@..." <j.and@...> To: bayareacyclocross@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, November 13, 2009 11:42:47 AM Subject: Re: [bayareacyclocross] Going tubular
Best tip I have heard yet (the electrical tape). Another that has come in handy is to use a syringe for filling in any spots that may be of concern. CVS pharmacy has been a good sorce for free syringes. These also work well for filling tires with sealant.
The just gluing works for me too. Folks may have better methods to gluing but this one worked for me. http://cxmagazine. com/howto- gluing-tubular- cyclocross- tires Since I am not as neat as I could be the electrical tape masking is worth the up-front time.
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You can also just glue the Tufos on your rims. That's what Lauren and I do. I have also rolled Tufos attached with standard Tufo tape. (+ glue)
Morgan
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Ted Ketai <tketai@gmail. com> wrote:
and if you get tufo's you need the tape AND glue. I rode mine with just the tape at first and both tires rolled almost immediately.
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Morgan Fletcher <morgan@hahaha. org> wrote:
Ditto! Also the Tufo Flexus is a good all-around tire. Both are also relatively good values. There are cheaper tires and there are nicer tires, those two are good bang for the buck.
In either case, a little sealant is a good idea for the Challenge and a must for the Tufo. (Tufos don't have inner tubes, just sealed casings.)
And while we're talking; Vittoria Mastik One is the good glue. Don't use too little, or better yet, have Ryan glue them. If you glue them roadie-style there's a chance you won't have enough bond for cyclocross.
I'm finally going tubular. Rather late in the season I know. Deciding which tires to buy. Here's the $10,000 question: Which tires are good in mud and dry? Impossible? Thanks! Winona
Best tip I have heard yet (the electrical tape). Another that has come in handy is to use a syringe for filling in any spots that may be of concern. CVS pharmacy has been a good sorce for free syringes. These also work well for filling tires with sealant.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
From: brian.birch@...
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To: <bayareacyclocross@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: <bayareacyclocross@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [bayareacyclocross] Going tubular
The just gluing works for me too. Folks
may have better methods to gluing but this one worked for me. http://cxmagazine.com/howto-gluing-tubular-cyclocross-tires
Since I am not as neat as I could be the electrical tape masking
is worth the up-front time.
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You can also just glue the Tufos on your rims. That's what
Lauren and I do. I have also rolled Tufos attached with standard Tufo tape.
(+ glue)
Morgan
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Ted Ketai <tketai@gmail.com>
wrote:
and if you get tufo's you need the tape AND glue. I rode
mine with just the tape at first and both tires rolled almost immediately.
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Morgan Fletcher <morgan@hahaha.org>
wrote:
Ditto! Also the Tufo Flexus is a good all-around tire.
Both are also relatively good values. There are cheaper tires and there
are nicer tires, those two are good bang for the buck.
In either case, a little sealant is a good idea for the
Challenge and a must for the Tufo. (Tufos don't have inner tubes, just
sealed casings.)
And while we're talking; Vittoria Mastik One is the good
glue. Don't use too little, or better yet, have Ryan glue them. If you
glue them roadie-style there's a chance you won't have enough bond for
cyclocross.
I'm finally going tubular. Rather late in the season I
know. Deciding which tires to buy. Here's the $10,000 question: Which tires
are good in mud and dry? Impossible? Thanks! Winona
The Grifos are my "tire for all occasions" choice, but I've had good experiences
with the Vittorias & Tufos too.
As far as the gluing goes, everyone has a preferred method, but I've found that
Stu Thorne's glue & "Belgian" tape method has been the best so far.
And get a roll of 2" wide blue painter's tape. It's worth the extra 20 minutes
of masking off the rims' sides vs the time, effort, and possible screw up, of
cleaning off excess glue slop. Just tape it around both sides, use an exact-o
knife or new razor blade and trim the overlap off at the edge of the rim. It
leaves a nice clean edge, that the glued tire will easily slide over. Less mess,
and far less fuss when it's all said 'n done!
Been doing this for years but one coat of glue on the new tire, one on a bare rim, you can also activate it with thinner or similar if there is an accumulation. Tufo tape, I like the extreme because it has the plastic strip that allows you to align the tire, put it on an make sure your use a tire lever to push it firmly into the rim channel.. You can put a little water on the regular tape and it works ok too. Align the tire which should be at 15psi or so. Once it is lined up pull the plastic strip out. From there inflate the tire to 60 psi, which causes the tire to shrink and seat. Deflate the tire roll it on a broom handle to push the tire firmly onto the glue strip. Reinflate to 60 let them sit for a a little bit, 4 hours or so. Works better if it is not cold where they are sitting. I weigh 180 and run them pretty low. I adhere to the Sam Giles rule that you should bottom out at least once per lap and then the PSI is just right. I have NEVER rolled a tire ever. I have used it on carbon and alum. I use TUFO Flexus and they work well for me. They are a good all around tire. My $.02.
JK
On Nov 13, 2009, at 10:33 AM, Paule Bates wrote:
Vittoria also makes a tubular that is about half the cost of Grifos. Almost the exact same tread and a good tire if you are budget minded.
-----Original Message-----
From: Morgan Fletcher Sent: Nov 13, 2009 10:23 AM
To: bayareacyclocross@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [bayareacyclocross] Going tubular
Ditto! Also the Tufo Flexus is a good all-around tire. Both are also relatively good values. There are cheaper tires and there are nicer tires, those two are good bang for the buck.
In either case, a little sealant is a good idea for the Challenge and a must for the Tufo. (Tufos don't have inner tubes, just sealed casings.)
And while we're talking; Vittoria Mastik One is the good glue. Don't use too little, or better yet, have Ryan glue them. If you glue them roadie-style there's a chance you won't have enough bond for cyclocross.
I'm finally going tubular. Rather late in the season I know. Deciding which tires to buy. Here's the $10,000 question: Which tires are good in mud and dry? Impossible? Thanks! Winona
The just gluing works for me too. Folks
may have better methods to gluing but this one worked for me. http://cxmagazine.com/howto-gluing-tubular-cyclocross-tires
Since I am not as neat as I could be the electrical tape masking
is worth the up-front time.
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You can also just glue the Tufos on your rims. That's what
Lauren and I do. I have also rolled Tufos attached with standard Tufo tape.
(+ glue)
Morgan
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Ted Ketai <tketai@...>
wrote:
and if you get tufo's you need the tape AND glue. I rode
mine with just the tape at first and both tires rolled almost immediately.
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Morgan Fletcher <morgan@...>
wrote:
Ditto! Also the Tufo Flexus is a good all-around tire.
Both are also relatively good values. There are cheaper tires and there
are nicer tires, those two are good bang for the buck.
In either case, a little sealant is a good idea for the
Challenge and a must for the Tufo. (Tufos don't have inner tubes, just
sealed casings.)
And while we're talking; Vittoria Mastik One is the good
glue. Don't use too little, or better yet, have Ryan glue them. If you
glue them roadie-style there's a chance you won't have enough bond for
cyclocross.
Challenge Grifo in 34 are what a lot of my riders pick
as their top rubber choice for all conditions.
On Nov 13, 2009, at 9:46 AM, "just4cyclinggroups"
<onepushybroad@...>
wrote:
I'm finally going tubular. Rather late in the season I
know. Deciding which tires to buy. Here's the $10,000 question: Which tires
are good in mud and dry? Impossible? Thanks! Winona
Vittoria also makes a tubular that is about half the cost of Grifos. Almost the exact same tread and a good tire if you are budget minded.
-----Original Message-----
From: Morgan Fletcher Sent: Nov 13, 2009 10:23 AM
To: bayareacyclocross@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [bayareacyclocross] Going tubular
Ditto! Also the Tufo Flexus is a good all-around tire. Both are also relatively good values. There are cheaper tires and there are nicer tires, those two are good bang for the buck.
In either case, a little sealant is a good idea for the Challenge and a must for the Tufo. (Tufos don't have inner tubes, just sealed casings.)
And while we're talking; Vittoria Mastik One is the good glue. Don't use too little, or better yet, have Ryan glue them. If you glue them roadie-style there's a chance you won't have enough bond for cyclocross.
I'm finally going tubular. Rather late in the season I know. Deciding which tires to buy. Here's the $10,000 question: Which tires are good in mud and dry? Impossible? Thanks! Winona
You can also just glue the Tufos on your rims. That's what Lauren and I do. I have also rolled Tufos attached with standard Tufo tape. (+ glue)
Morgan
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Ted Ketai <tketai@...> wrote:
and if you get tufo's you need the tape AND glue. I rode mine with just the tape at first and both tires rolled almost immediately.
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Morgan Fletcher <morgan@...> wrote:
Ditto! Also the Tufo Flexus is a good all-around tire. Both are also relatively good values. There are cheaper tires and there are nicer tires, those two are good bang for the buck.
In either case, a little sealant is a good idea for the Challenge and a must for the Tufo. (Tufos don't have inner tubes, just sealed casings.)
And while we're talking; Vittoria Mastik One is the good glue. Don't use too little, or better yet, have Ryan glue them. If you glue them roadie-style there's a chance you won't have enough bond for cyclocross.
Challenge Grifo in 34 are what a lot of my riders pick as their top rubber choice for all conditions.
On Nov 13, 2009, at 9:46 AM, "just4cyclinggroups" <onepushybroad@...> wrote:
I'm finally going tubular. Rather late in the season I know. Deciding which tires to buy. Here's the $10,000 question: Which tires are good in mud and dry? Impossible? Thanks! Winona
These are fun workouts, good cross practice. I've been doing them regularly at this time / place this season. I usually do a techier course for 20-25 minutes, take a break, then do a faster course, same duration. In between I just ride around for 20-25 minutes or so, practicing skills. Done by 8:15 and in my case, home by 8:30. Here's last week's ride, which you can also use to find the location:
There are stairs, sand, grass, barriers and twisty 180s around trees at the Arena.
Would love some riding company,
Morgan
P.S. Is there any value in practicing dismounts / remounts on the "wrong side"? Sure feels weird. Rolling dismount with one hand on the top tube? I practice stuff like this in the "off" interval.
and if you get tufo's you need the tape AND glue. I rode mine with just the tape at first and both tires rolled almost immediately.
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Morgan Fletcher <morgan@...> wrote:
Ditto! Also the Tufo Flexus is a good all-around tire. Both are also relatively good values. There are cheaper tires and there are nicer tires, those two are good bang for the buck.
In either case, a little sealant is a good idea for the Challenge and a must for the Tufo. (Tufos don't have inner tubes, just sealed casings.)
And while we're talking; Vittoria Mastik One is the good glue. Don't use too little, or better yet, have Ryan glue them. If you glue them roadie-style there's a chance you won't have enough bond for cyclocross.
Challenge Grifo in 34 are what a lot of my riders pick as their top rubber choice for all conditions.
On Nov 13, 2009, at 9:46 AM, "just4cyclinggroups" <onepushybroad@...> wrote:
I'm finally going tubular. Rather late in the season I know. Deciding which tires to buy. Here's the $10,000 question: Which tires are good in mud and dry? Impossible? Thanks! Winona
Ditto! Also the Tufo Flexus is a good all-around tire. Both are also relatively good values. There are cheaper tires and there are nicer tires, those two are good bang for the buck.
In either case, a little sealant is a good idea for the Challenge and a must for the Tufo. (Tufos don't have inner tubes, just sealed casings.)
And while we're talking; Vittoria Mastik One is the good glue. Don't use too little, or better yet, have Ryan glue them. If you glue them roadie-style there's a chance you won't have enough bond for cyclocross.
Challenge Grifo in 34 are what a lot of my riders pick as their top rubber choice for all conditions.
On Nov 13, 2009, at 9:46 AM, "just4cyclinggroups" <onepushybroad@...> wrote:
I'm finally going tubular. Rather late in the season I know. Deciding which tires to buy. Here's the $10,000 question: Which tires are good in mud and dry? Impossible? Thanks! Winona
Challenge Grifo in 34 are what a lot of my riders pick as their top rubber choice for all conditions.
On Nov 13, 2009, at 9:46 AM, "just4cyclinggroups" <onepushybroad@...> wrote:
I'm finally going tubular. Rather late in the season I know. Deciding which tires to buy. Here's the $10,000 question: Which tires are good in mud and dry? Impossible? Thanks! Winona
I'm finally going tubular. Rather late in the season I know. Deciding which
tires to buy. Here's the $10,000 question: Which tires are good in mud and
dry? Impossible? Thanks! Winona
Thanks to all you guys that pour hearts into these races. They are the best and I am very excited to be racing my very first afternoon/night race under the lights! And looking forward to the stairs for this race! See you Sat!
Jamie 'The Cheerleader' Schoenborn Team Roaring Mouse
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