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Re: [bata] Re: Irish Martial Arts

----- Original Message ----
From: appletreeworm <appletreeworm@...>
To: bata@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 6, 2008 1:43:17 PM
Subject: [bata] Re: Irish Martial Arts
|--- In bata@yahoogroups. com, "lone_wolf_92001" <lone_wolf_9@ ...>
|wrote:
|> The oldest Irish martial arts-related material I'm aware of would be
|> the list of "warrior feats" performed by the hero Cuchullain, but
|> that's more-or-less entering the realm of mythology, so any
|> reconstructions tend to be speculative.
|>
|> Cheers,
|>
|> Tony
|Ah, I see! Good to know. Would I get any useful amount of info. if I
|were to look this hero up?
|
|-Alisha

It's called the Tain Bo Cuailgne as in this article
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C3%A1in_B%C3%B3_C%C3%BAailnge here. Aside from
learning classical Irish, which is different again from modern Irish taught in
schools, there are numerous translations. Thomas Kinsella's *The Tain* I've
heard of but not read. Tain means a raid, Bo means cattle, and Cuailgne
pronounced Cooley is a name (-- was it the King of Ulster?). It recounts the
raid of Queen Mabd pronounced Meave on Ulster which is now Northern Ireland and
surrounding bits of the Republic and the one-man army of Cuchulainn
(=terrorist?) who opposed her. There were numerous weapons mentioned, but few
sticks I suspect aside from Irish hurley which was training for juvenile
warriors at the time.

Or just get a good book on making blackthorn sticks grow naturally the way you
want them, then drying them in the chimney.

So long,

Sean



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... to give ... Celts developed their martial arts? I find them unique for some reason, do you get the same feeling? -Alisha...
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... From: appletreeworm <appletreeworm@...> To: bata@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 6, 2008 1:43:17 PM Subject: [bata] Re: Irish Martial Arts ... ...
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... would be ... I ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C3%A1in_B%C3%B3_C%C3%BAailnge here. Aside from learning classical Irish, which is different again from ...
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... From: appletreeworm <appletreeworm@...> To: bata@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 7, 2008 2:00:32 PM Subject: [bata] Re: Irish Martial Arts ......
Sean Fogarty
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Still, to really learn classical Irish you would need Greek, Latin, and maybe even Hebrew I suspect. You don't.   Grammar and vocabulary are overwhelmingly...
Bryan Maloney
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... s ... (agat or liat), and other words as they come up in English or Japanese once, I haven't. Mostly because I haven't been to Ireland or even the east...
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    I'm not certain how useful latin would be to Gaelic. Our grammer and words used arn't very romanitzed and the way letters are pronounced are pretty...
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