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Re: [bata] Re: Bata vs steel pipe, baseball bat???

you know thinking on it, I've got to get a VCR sometime soon anyways.
what would you recommend (keeping in mind the abscence of paypal)?
I'm very interested in seeing what the irish styles have to offer and
perhaps trying them out.
-Dan

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> > I don't use Paypal is there anything available without paypal?
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Hey all I was wondering if any of you have given any thought on defense against someone with a steel pipe or a baseball bat, since I think the prospect of...
Fernanda Felicia
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Nov 26, 2005
4:18 am

We practice bb bat drills all the time as well as pool que drills. We can do some of them on video and post them in a day or two. They both are painfully slow...
John P. Sullivan 5
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Nov 26, 2005
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Howdy Iian Kirk and I have done some work on bata vs bat, we've found 2 ways to deal with the situation. 1) Your opponent will have to rear back to take a...
Mark Rainey
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Nov 26, 2005
7:45 pm

your second option on your post is my favorite. if you can see it coming it is almost impossible to hit a guy with a bb bat, provided you have some room to ...
John P. Sullivan 5
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Nov 27, 2005
12:32 am

Or the step outside the arc of attack.. With the lighter bata you shpould be able to hit them twice before the return swing. But thats just my humble opinion ...
William Adkins
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Nov 27, 2005
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I suppose it depends how you parry with a bata and possibly even how you use it in general. If you're a bit more fluid with your parry, you can use the bata to...
Seth
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Nov 28, 2005
7:24 pm

I'm suprised no one mentioned any of the two-hand methods (if someone did and I missed it, I apologize). It would seem that against a two handed bat...
Stephen Logan
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Nov 28, 2005
9:20 pm

You could be right. I tend to switch between one- and two-handed styles as it goes. Each has a lot of value in different situations. And, in my experience,...
Seth
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Nov 29, 2005
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Lots of good advice has been doled out here on the list....I really do not have anything to add. I have done some work against a baseball bat to pressure test...
Ken Pfrenger
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Nov 29, 2005
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Amen, Ken. Whether or not it's more strategically valuable in the current situation, not being in the path of a dangerous object is always more enjoyable than...
Seth
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Nov 29, 2005
12:58 pm

... bata in general--but I'm just curious about jumping inside the arc of the swing and attacking rather than blocking or completely avoiding the strike?...
jodykwik
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Nov 30, 2005
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... The point of maximum force for a centrifugal swing is at the outside of the swing. The point of minimum force is at the center. The closer you can get to...
Rabid Weasel Lawson
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Nov 30, 2005
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what's available in DVD? I don't use Paypal is there anything available without paypal? -Dan ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
Dan Zarrella
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Dec 1, 2005
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... Video of 3 or 4 informal training sessions at Ken's covering some basic Bata, bare knuckle pugilism, and Collar & Elbow wrestling. Though offering...
Rabid Weasel Lawson
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Dec 1, 2005
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you know thinking on it, I've got to get a VCR sometime soon anyways. what would you recommend (keeping in mind the abscence of paypal)? I'm very interested in...
Dan Zarrella
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Dec 1, 2005
6:16 pm

... I'm hesitant to recommend however since specifically asked, the individual tapes have a better "for the viewer" presentation, drills, and a broader range...
Rabid Weasel Lawson
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Dec 1, 2005
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... Hi Paul, Welcome to the list! Jumping inside the arc is possible as well, you just have to make sure you have the timing to do it safely...this goes for...
Ken Pfrenger
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Dec 1, 2005
11:51 pm

Thanks Ken. I guess there's no substitute for training the possible scenarios then. Well...training efficiently anyway. Definitely don't want to be in the...
jodykwik
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Dec 2, 2005
2:34 am

Hey all I just have to say that all of these replies make for a very interesting read! From what I understand from your responses, those of us with a bata ...
Fernanda Felicia
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Dec 2, 2005
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Nope, Sword Vs. Axe fight you have two edges to deal with on the sword and a singler edge on the axe. This completely changes several things in the fight. Only...
William Adkins
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Dec 2, 2005
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Correct me if I'm wrong, 'cause I'm not going to pretend to really know what I'm talking about, and I need to learn more anyway. But it just doesn't seem like...
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Dec 2, 2005
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I don't have any experience with the bata yet, but I've had some with cane techniques. My suggestion to achieve the energy transfer back to the attacker is to...
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