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#29009 From: coach4fu@...
Date: Tue Jun 3, 2003 5:27 pm
Subject: Coaching Clinics
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Coaches,

I thought I would post this again to see if I could get a few more responses...just looking for some ideas!

What small college and high school coaches from the state of Texas would you like to hear at a local coaches clinic. 

Shane Dreiling
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#29008 From: "Neil Gouett" <CoachNeil@...>
Date: Tue Jun 3, 2003 8:41 pm
Subject: Re: Defensive Philosophy
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My basic coaching philosophy is pressure, pressure, pressure.  If my players
are capable of performing the task I like to employ multiple defenses to
keep the offense guessing.  My reasoning behind this approach is that I want
my defense to dicate what the offense must do, in so doing I then know how
and what I must defend.
Neil G
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ryan Burns" <gusto82@...>
To: <basketball-coaching@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 10:20 PM
Subject: [basketball-coaching] Defensive Philosophy


> I am interested in any coaches Defensive philosophy and if they use
> more than 1.....
> Im also interested in Coaches Transition Philosophy.
>
> thanks
>
> Coach Rocket
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#29007 From: "Dickran Parunak" <dickran@...>
Date: Tue Jun 3, 2003 1:01 pm
Subject: RE: Re: 4 high set
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Interesting idea, and I think I might try that.  My 1-4 isn't as flexible but that's only because I don't ask my point guard to play any other positions. I feel like the point guard is the most demanding position on the court and I'd rather not do the "point guard by committee" thing.  Thanks for the suggestion though.
 
Coach D
-----Original Message-----
From: CoachLok [mailto:CoachLOK@...]
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 1:14 AM
To: basketball-coaching@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [basketball-coaching] Re: 4 high set

We run some 1-4, with the 3 perimeter players being interchangeable
and the two posts are interchangeable. One of my favorite
"breakdowns" for this I call 5on3/5on2. At one end we run the
offense with only 3 defenders on the perimeter players and they can
only score on perimeter options. At the other end, we play 5on2 with
the defense on the posts and they must score on post options.
It really gets the players to recognize how we can get shots from
each position.


--- Dickran Parunak <dickran@...> wrote:
> The "whole-part-whole" method is vital in my opinion to teach any
> offense.
> I think part of the challenge of being a good coach is finding
> ways to
> incorporate this method into practices by running drills that
> effectively
> teach the "parts" so that when you go back to the "whole", the
> kids have
> hopefully learned something.  There are thousands of drills out
> there but in
> my opinion the good ones are the ones that reinforce the "part" of
> the
> "whole".  And this will vary from team to team.  Great point
> though.  It is
> good to be reminded.

> Coach D
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: Nate Jurgens [mailto:coachnj@...]
> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 6:27 PM
> To: basketball-coaching@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [basketball-coaching] Re: 4 high set
>
>
>
> Coach,
> Another idea is to use the "whole-part-whole" method.  Show them
> what
> it should look like, then break it down using drills that show
> just
> one aspect of the offense.  I use motion concept drills as warm
> ups
> that fit into my motion and my sets.  For example, we do a set of
> back
> door and give and go drills to get warmed up, and then we use the
> same
> back door concepts in our motion.  (I'm not saying we always
> execute
> now...)
>
> Kick 'em
> Jurgs
>
>
>
> --- In basketball-coaching@yahoogroups.com, "Dickran Parunak"
> <dickran@u...> wrote:
> > I think you hit the nail on the head.  Last season I tried to
> show
> them too
> > many options at once.  One option at a time is definitely the
> way to
> go.  I
> > felt like we got plenty of repetitions in, but they were so
> confused to
> > begin with, that they would have needed twice as many to get
> everything
> > right. 
> > 
> > And you know, it's interesting that we had 5 different inbounds
> plays that
> > we taught in two practices and everyone knew them and knew them
> well.
> > However, we went over this offense for at least 6 practices and
> we
> didn't
> > know one option even halfway.  And I really think it is because
> there was a
> > verbal signal attached to the inbounds play.  This was the first
> time that I
> > tried an offense that had "set" options.  Before, we taught
> either a
> free
> > lance motion offense or a continuity offense that had one
> specific
> pattern.
> > Thanks for the tips everybody.  Just can't wait until next
> season.
> > 
> > Coach D
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Sars300@a... [mailto:Sars300@a...]
> > Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 5:13 AM
> > To: basketball-coaching@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [basketball-coaching] 4 high set
> >
> >
> > Coach D ......
> >
> > We always tried to use the "KISS" method.  Keep things as simple
> as
> you can
> > for your own team.  I would start out by teaching them one
> option at
> a time
> > and give them enough repetitions so they know it inside and out.
>
> Only then
> > would I add another, I would repeat this until they knew the
> whole set
> > thoroughly.  We ran several set plays along with our 3 out 2 in
> motion (5
> > man) and our 5 out high motion which we called "Double Up."  At
> the
> > beginning of every practice we would run each set play without a
> defense.  I
> > wanted to be sure that they knew everything that we ran.  This
> included side
> > line plays and inbound plays also.  You can get this done in
> less
> than 10
> > minutes if you keep them going on both ends of the court.  If
> you
> find that
> > this is to time consuming you can always do the offensive sets
> one
> day and
> > the sideline & inbound the next.  At the beginning of the season
> I would
> > recommend doing them all, but that is just! my opinion.
> > Coach Sar  ( Ken )
> >
> >
> >
> > Last season, I experimented with a 4 high set as an entry into
> our
> motion
> > offense.  I taught them 4 different options that were each cued
> off the
> > point guard's actions.  Since the offense is symmetrical, you
> could
> run any
> > option from either side which actually gave us 8 different
> possibilities.  I
> > reasoned that if we could react off of the point guard then we
> could
> > disguise what we were doing very effectively.  However, we did
> not react
> > quickly enough.  It took a second too long for us to recognize
> which
> option
> > our point guard was initiating.  And since a major key to this
> offense is
> > timing, it really threw us out of sync.
> >
> > Should I
> > A) create a separate call for each option?
> > B) do more repetitions and hope they learn to recognize things
> more
> quickly?
> > C) create more "obvious" cues?
> > D) incorporate one play at a time and don't install another one
> until they
> > master the first?
> > E) all the above
> > F) none of the above
> > G) some random combination of the above
> >
> > This is not a test by the way.  I really would like some advice.
>
> >
> > Coach D
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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#29006 From: ldowu oluwakemi <fikkyboy2003@...>
Date: Tue Jun 3, 2003 1:05 pm
Subject: Re: Coaching interviews
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hello MrHomer Garr what i think as a very good basketballer is thatyou should just give your boys a very hard training and fitness to let the head coach know how serious you are with your job and one more thing is that you should believe in your self and i will also surpport you with prayer here in nigeria.

fbama12@... wrote:
HI.  My name is homer garr from mcallen texas.  I have been a jv coach and assistant for 2 years at the same school but have coached for 8 years in various places but all successful programs.  The head coach took a job in Dallas and wants me to apply for head job.  The administration likes to hire head coaches with experience.  I go for my interview next week and it seems to be between me and another coach that left our program to be a girls head coach.  sorry of being long winded but wanted you to know situation.

well here is my question.  I wrote a program guide with letters of recommendation attached.  What else can I do to make the committee see that I am the one that can lead the team on in the future.  All varsity players played for me last year and we were district runner ups.  I want something that will just scream out........ we gotta have this guy.

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#29005 From: Sars300@...
Date: Tue Jun 3, 2003 8:46 am
Subject: Defensive Philosophy
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Coach Rocket.....

I think that your defensive philosophy is dictated by the talent you have to deal with.  You can be stubborn (as I was when I started at the high school level) and say that I am going to be a hard nosed m2m team 84'.
But when your talent level changes you better be ready to be a little more flexible or you are going to be on the short end of the final score more than you want to be.
So, with all that being said, my philosophy ended up being this ....
Do whatever it takes to keep your team in the game.  We had two basic defenses that we used most of the time.... m2m (Dick Bennett's on the line up the line) and a 1-3-1 match up zone.  When we were doing this right, some teams were not sure what D we were in.  We would m2m inbound plays under our basket to make sure no one got an easy shot in close and we would 1-3-1 match sideline inbound plays to make sure that we had the inbounder covered so he couldn't step in for an easy 3.
As our talent level went south, WE wanted to dictate the tempo of the game.... the game was going to be played the way we wanted it to be played. (if at all possible)  When we wanted to extend the defense, it was out of a 1-2-2 set .... most of the time we just wanted to slow them down and control the tempo, BUT we always looked for a GOOD trap just over half court.  The kids knew that any time they thought we had a good trapping situation they could go for it.  If we really wanted to force the tempo we would extend our m2m full court, sometimes fronting the inbounds pass and sometimes not. (just depending upon the situation)
Towards the end of my tenure as head coach we employed a lot of different "gimmick Ds"  Box & 1,  Triangle & 2, 1-1-3, one game we took a page out of Bobby Knights book (he used this against Kevin Eshmeyer of Northwestern) by double teaming him before he got the ball in the low post) We held a 22 ppg scorer to 7 but still lost because we couldn't throw the ball in the ocean from the shore.  We WERE right there at the end of the game though.
Sorry for the rambling here.  Just some of my thoughts.  So my suggestion .... Do what is right for your team and their talent level.

Coach Sar  ( Ken )

I am interested in any coaches Defensive philosophy and if they use
more than 1.....
Im also interested in Coaches Transition Philosophy.

thanks

Coach Rocket



#29004 From: "Ryan Burns" <gusto82@...>
Date: Tue Jun 3, 2003 5:20 am
Subject: Defensive Philosophy
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I am interested in any coaches Defensive philosophy and if they use
more than 1.....
Im also interested in Coaches Transition Philosophy.

thanks

Coach Rocket

#29003 From: CoachLok <CoachLOK@...>
Date: Tue Jun 3, 2003 5:14 am
Subject: RE: Re: 4 high set
CoachLOK@...
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We run some 1-4, with the 3 perimeter players being interchangeable
and the two posts are interchangeable. One of my favorite
"breakdowns" for this I call 5on3/5on2. At one end we run the
offense with only 3 defenders on the perimeter players and they can
only score on perimeter options. At the other end, we play 5on2 with
the defense on the posts and they must score on post options.
It really gets the players to recognize how we can get shots from
each position.


--- Dickran Parunak <dickran@...> wrote:
> The "whole-part-whole" method is vital in my opinion to teach any
> offense.
> I think part of the challenge of being a good coach is finding
> ways to
> incorporate this method into practices by running drills that
> effectively
> teach the "parts" so that when you go back to the "whole", the
> kids have
> hopefully learned something.  There are thousands of drills out
> there but in
> my opinion the good ones are the ones that reinforce the "part" of
> the
> "whole".  And this will vary from team to team.  Great point
> though.  It is
> good to be reminded.
>
> Coach D
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: Nate Jurgens [mailto:coachnj@...]
> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 6:27 PM
> To: basketball-coaching@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [basketball-coaching] Re: 4 high set
>
>
>
> Coach,
> Another idea is to use the "whole-part-whole" method.  Show them
> what
> it should look like, then break it down using drills that show
> just
> one aspect of the offense.  I use motion concept drills as warm
> ups
> that fit into my motion and my sets.  For example, we do a set of
> back
> door and give and go drills to get warmed up, and then we use the
> same
> back door concepts in our motion.  (I'm not saying we always
> execute
> now...)
>
> Kick 'em
> Jurgs
>
>
>
> --- In basketball-coaching@yahoogroups.com, "Dickran Parunak"
> <dickran@u...> wrote:
> > I think you hit the nail on the head.  Last season I tried to
> show
> them too
> > many options at once.  One option at a time is definitely the
> way to
> go.  I
> > felt like we got plenty of repetitions in, but they were so
> confused to
> > begin with, that they would have needed twice as many to get
> everything
> > right.
> >
> > And you know, it's interesting that we had 5 different inbounds
> plays that
> > we taught in two practices and everyone knew them and knew them
> well.
> > However, we went over this offense for at least 6 practices and
> we
> didn't
> > know one option even halfway.  And I really think it is because
> there was a
> > verbal signal attached to the inbounds play.  This was the first
> time that I
> > tried an offense that had "set" options.  Before, we taught
> either a
> free
> > lance motion offense or a continuity offense that had one
> specific
> pattern.
> > Thanks for the tips everybody.  Just can't wait until next
> season.
> >
> > Coach D
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Sars300@a... [mailto:Sars300@a...]
> > Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 5:13 AM
> > To: basketball-coaching@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [basketball-coaching] 4 high set
> >
> >
> > Coach D ......
> >
> > We always tried to use the "KISS" method.  Keep things as simple
> as
> you can
> > for your own team.  I would start out by teaching them one
> option at
> a time
> > and give them enough repetitions so they know it inside and out.
>
> Only then
> > would I add another, I would repeat this until they knew the
> whole set
> > thoroughly.  We ran several set plays along with our 3 out 2 in
> motion (5
> > man) and our 5 out high motion which we called "Double Up."  At
> the
> > beginning of every practice we would run each set play without a
> defense.  I
> > wanted to be sure that they knew everything that we ran.  This
> included side
> > line plays and inbound plays also.  You can get this done in
> less
> than 10
> > minutes if you keep them going on both ends of the court.  If
> you
> find that
> > this is to time consuming you can always do the offensive sets
> one
> day and
> > the sideline & inbound the next.  At the beginning of the season
> I would
> > recommend doing them all, but that is just! my opinion.
> > Coach Sar  ( Ken )
> >
> >
> >
> > Last season, I experimented with a 4 high set as an entry into
> our
> motion
> > offense.  I taught them 4 different options that were each cued
> off the
> > point guard's actions.  Since the offense is symmetrical, you
> could
> run any
> > option from either side which actually gave us 8 different
> possibilities.  I
> > reasoned that if we could react off of the point guard then we
> could
> > disguise what we were doing very effectively.  However, we did
> not react
> > quickly enough.  It took a second too long for us to recognize
> which
> option
> > our point guard was initiating.  And since a major key to this
> offense is
> > timing, it really threw us out of sync.
> >
> > Should I
> > A) create a separate call for each option?
> > B) do more repetitions and hope they learn to recognize things
> more
> quickly?
> > C) create more "obvious" cues?
> > D) incorporate one play at a time and don't install another one
> until they
> > master the first?
> > E) all the above
> > F) none of the above
> > G) some random combination of the above
> >
> > This is not a test by the way.  I really would like some advice.
>
> >
> > Coach D
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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2002 CIF Div. IIIAA Champions    http://www.bishopamat.org
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#29002 From: "Mike" <lightin@...>
Date: Tue Jun 3, 2003 3:27 am
Subject: Re: Interview
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Coach V.
I've been asked to do an interview this week as well.  I've been working on my Coaches Handbook to take with me.  I've been working on this handbook for years and finally had a reason to get it online.  I have a long way to go but have about 1/2 of it online now.  You can view it at http://www.4seasonsbasketball.com/
In the menu to the left under 4SBS Programs you'll see "Handbook". 
 
Also take a look on the Coaches Notebook web site at http://www.akcoach.com/  good stuff there.  Look in the drop down menu in the upper right of the page.
 
 
Coach Mike
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 3:01 PM
Subject: [basketball-coaching] Interview

Coaches,
Does anyone have a format as far as a resume that includes philosophy,5 yera
plan,etc. to be used in an interview scenario.
I have been asked to interview for a head coaching position and to bring
portfolio that includes my philosophy and a 3 or 5 year plan as well for the
interview committee.
I remember someone asking this question a while back. Any info or direction
would help.
Coach V.

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#29001 From: Jim Emery <macs6227@...>
Date: Tue Jun 3, 2003 1:52 am
Subject: RE: Which knee pads are best
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I am actually a sporting goods salesman/coach.
I would suggest Adams Trace Knees pads.
From Adams USA out of Cookeville, TN.
They are also the most expensive.
-----Original Message-----
From: Doc Palmere [mailto:docp@...]
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 1:10 PM
To: basketball-coaching@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [basketball-coaching] Which knee pads are best

Hi Coaches,
I'm looking for some knee pads that my kids can wear.  Does anyone know
which brand might be best?  We have one player with knees that are all
black and blue.  Seems like less talented teams are taking a lot of cheap
shots.  Brand name and maybe best sources would be very helpful.

Thanks,

Doc





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#29000 From: "Sallie Guillory" <sc_guillory@...>
Date: Tue Jun 3, 2003 1:45 am
Subject: Re: Which knee pads are best
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Most of our kids wear volleyball knee pads they say they work the best. Most
of them have Asics or Nike knee pads.









>From: Doc Palmere <docp@...>
>Reply-To: basketball-coaching@yahoogroups.com
>To: basketball-coaching@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [basketball-coaching] Which knee pads are best
>Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 11:10:08 -0600
>
>Hi Coaches,
>I'm looking for some knee pads that my kids can wear.  Does anyone know
>which brand might be best?  We have one player with knees that are all
>black and blue.  Seems like less talented teams are taking a lot of cheap
>shots.  Brand name and maybe best sources would be very helpful.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Doc
>
>
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#28999 From: "Dickran Parunak" <dickran@...>
Date: Tue Jun 3, 2003 1:41 am
Subject: RE: Re: 4 high set
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The "whole-part-whole" method is vital in my opinion to teach any offense.  I think part of the challenge of being a good coach is finding ways to incorporate this method into practices by running drills that effectively teach the "parts" so that when you go back to the "whole", the kids have hopefully learned something.  There are thousands of drills out there but in my opinion the good ones are the ones that reinforce the "part" of the "whole".  And this will vary from team to team.  Great point though.  It is good to be reminded.
 
Coach D
 -----Original Message-----
From: Nate Jurgens [mailto:coachnj@...]
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 6:27 PM
To: basketball-coaching@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [basketball-coaching] Re: 4 high set

Coach,
Another idea is to use the "whole-part-whole" method.  Show them what
it should look like, then break it down using drills that show just
one aspect of the offense.  I use motion concept drills as warm ups
that fit into my motion and my sets.  For example, we do a set of back
door and give and go drills to get warmed up, and then we use the same
back door concepts in our motion.  (I'm not saying we always execute
now...)

Kick 'em
Jurgs



--- In basketball-coaching@yahoogroups.com, "Dickran Parunak"
<dickran@u...> wrote:
> I think you hit the nail on the head.  Last season I tried to show
them too
> many options at once.  One option at a time is definitely the way to
go.  I
> felt like we got plenty of repetitions in, but they were so confused to
> begin with, that they would have needed twice as many to get everything
> right. 

> And you know, it's interesting that we had 5 different inbounds
plays that
> we taught in two practices and everyone knew them and knew them well.
> However, we went over this offense for at least 6 practices and we
didn't
> know one option even halfway.  And I really think it is because
there was a
> verbal signal attached to the inbounds play.  This was the first
time that I
> tried an offense that had "set" options.  Before, we taught either a
free
> lance motion offense or a continuity offense that had one specific
pattern.
> Thanks for the tips everybody.  Just can't wait until next season.

> Coach D
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sars300@a... [mailto:Sars300@a...]
> Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 5:13 AM
> To: basketball-coaching@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [basketball-coaching] 4 high set
>
>
> Coach D ......
>
> We always tried to use the "KISS" method.  Keep things as simple as
you can
> for your own team.  I would start out by teaching them one option at
a time
> and give them enough repetitions so they know it inside and out.
Only then
> would I add another, I would repeat this until they knew the whole set
> thoroughly.  We ran several set plays along with our 3 out 2 in
motion (5
> man) and our 5 out high motion which we called "Double Up."  At the
> beginning of every practice we would run each set play without a
defense.  I
> wanted to be sure that they knew everything that we ran.  This
included side
> line plays and inbound plays also.  You can get this done in less
than 10
> minutes if you keep them going on both ends of the court.  If you
find that
> this is to time consuming you can always do the offensive sets one
day and
> the sideline & inbound the next.  At the beginning of the season I would
> recommend doing them all, but that is just! my opinion.
> Coach Sar  ( Ken )
>
>
>
> Last season, I experimented with a 4 high set as an entry into our
motion
> offense.  I taught them 4 different options that were each cued off the
> point guard's actions.  Since the offense is symmetrical, you could
run any
> option from either side which actually gave us 8 different
possibilities.  I
> reasoned that if we could react off of the point guard then we could
> disguise what we were doing very effectively.  However, we did not react
> quickly enough.  It took a second too long for us to recognize which
option
> our point guard was initiating.  And since a major key to this
offense is
> timing, it really threw us out of sync.
>
> Should I
> A) create a separate call for each option?
> B) do more repetitions and hope they learn to recognize things more
quickly?
> C) create more "obvious" cues?
> D) incorporate one play at a time and don't install another one
until they
> master the first?
> E) all the above
> F) none of the above
> G) some random combination of the above
>
> This is not a test by the way.  I really would like some advice.
>
> Coach D
>
>
>
>
>
>
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#28998 From: "Alexandro Valdez" <Alexandroj@...>
Date: Mon Jun 2, 2003 9:01 pm
Subject: Interview
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Coaches,
Does anyone have a format as far as a resume that includes philosophy,5 yera
plan,etc. to be used in an interview scenario.
I have been asked to interview for a head coaching position and to bring
portfolio that includes my philosophy and a 3 or 5 year plan as well for the
interview committee.
I remember someone asking this question a while back. Any info or direction
would help.
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#28997 From: "Dr. Charles Paxson, Jr." <cpaxson@...>
Date: Tue Jun 3, 2003 12:06 am
Subject: Re: camp basketballs
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Jim:  how much are 300  print imbedded balls?
thanks
Coach Charlie Paxson
Glory Basketball
1934 130th lane NW
Coon Rapids, MN 55448
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----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Emery
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 7:18 AM
Subject: RE: [basketball-coaching] camp basketballs

Coach Smith,
We can supply custom camp balls. They are made overseas so there might not be enough lead time for this year.
When are your camps? Minimum is around 300 balls for customization.
We have a ball that is pad printed called "Just In Time".
They come in school colors but the printed design wears off with wear unlike
the custom balls where the design is imbedded into the ball.
Thanks,
Jim Emery
Maryland Athletic & Corporate Supply - MACS
888-357-MACS (6227)
-----Original Message-----
From: hoopsrus1@... [mailto:hoopsrus1@...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 11:50 PM
To: basketball-coaching@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [basketball-coaching] camp basketballs

Hello Coaches,
I am looking for a place to purchase specially designed basketballs for our basketball camp.  I would like to have the camp or school logo / name on the ball or perhaps even one of the school colors.  I would appreciate any helpful information that anyone has.  Hope someone can help. 
Thanks
Coach Smith
Spring Grove, PA


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#28996 From: "Nate Jurgens" <coachnj@...>
Date: Mon Jun 2, 2003 10:26 pm
Subject: Re: 4 high set
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Coach,
Another idea is to use the "whole-part-whole" method.  Show them what
it should look like, then break it down using drills that show just
one aspect of the offense.  I use motion concept drills as warm ups
that fit into my motion and my sets.  For example, we do a set of back
door and give and go drills to get warmed up, and then we use the same
back door concepts in our motion.  (I'm not saying we always execute
now...)

Kick 'em
Jurgs



--- In basketball-coaching@yahoogroups.com, "Dickran Parunak"
<dickran@u...> wrote:
> I think you hit the nail on the head.  Last season I tried to show
them too
> many options at once.  One option at a time is definitely the way to
go.  I
> felt like we got plenty of repetitions in, but they were so confused to
> begin with, that they would have needed twice as many to get everything
> right.
>
> And you know, it's interesting that we had 5 different inbounds
plays that
> we taught in two practices and everyone knew them and knew them well.
> However, we went over this offense for at least 6 practices and we
didn't
> know one option even halfway.  And I really think it is because
there was a
> verbal signal attached to the inbounds play.  This was the first
time that I
> tried an offense that had "set" options.  Before, we taught either a
free
> lance motion offense or a continuity offense that had one specific
pattern.
> Thanks for the tips everybody.  Just can't wait until next season.
>
> Coach D
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sars300@a... [mailto:Sars300@a...]
> Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 5:13 AM
> To: basketball-coaching@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [basketball-coaching] 4 high set
>
>
> Coach D ......
>
> We always tried to use the "KISS" method.  Keep things as simple as
you can
> for your own team.  I would start out by teaching them one option at
a time
> and give them enough repetitions so they know it inside and out.
Only then
> would I add another, I would repeat this until they knew the whole set
> thoroughly.  We ran several set plays along with our 3 out 2 in
motion (5
> man) and our 5 out high motion which we called "Double Up."  At the
> beginning of every practice we would run each set play without a
defense.  I
> wanted to be sure that they knew everything that we ran.  This
included side
> line plays and inbound plays also.  You can get this done in less
than 10
> minutes if you keep them going on both ends of the court.  If you
find that
> this is to time consuming you can always do the offensive sets one
day and
> the sideline & inbound the next.  At the beginning of the season I would
> recommend doing them all, but that is just! my opinion.
> Coach Sar  ( Ken )
>
>
>
> Last season, I experimented with a 4 high set as an entry into our
motion
> offense.  I taught them 4 different options that were each cued off the
> point guard's actions.  Since the offense is symmetrical, you could
run any
> option from either side which actually gave us 8 different
possibilities.  I
> reasoned that if we could react off of the point guard then we could
> disguise what we were doing very effectively.  However, we did not react
> quickly enough.  It took a second too long for us to recognize which
option
> our point guard was initiating.  And since a major key to this
offense is
> timing, it really threw us out of sync.
>
> Should I
> A) create a separate call for each option?
> B) do more repetitions and hope they learn to recognize things more
quickly?
> C) create more "obvious" cues?
> D) incorporate one play at a time and don't install another one
until they
> master the first?
> E) all the above
> F) none of the above
> G) some random combination of the above
>
> This is not a test by the way.  I really would like some advice.
>
> Coach D
>
>
>
>
>
>
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#28995 From: "Paul Voorhees" <pvoorhees@...>
Date: Mon Jun 2, 2003 8:17 pm
Subject: Re: Which knee pads are best
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Our girls program is traditionally known for our teams that wear kneepads.
We use TRACE brand kneepads and we have our representative from our local
sporting goods store order them for us.

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Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 10:10 AM
Subject: [basketball-coaching] Which knee pads are best


> Hi Coaches,
> I'm looking for some knee pads that my kids can wear.  Does anyone know
> which brand might be best?  We have one player with knees that are all
> black and blue.  Seems like less talented teams are taking a lot of cheap
> shots.  Brand name and maybe best sources would be very helpful.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Doc
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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#28994 From: Doc Palmere <docp@...>
Date: Mon Jun 2, 2003 5:10 pm
Subject: Which knee pads are best
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Hi Coaches,
I'm looking for some knee pads that my kids can wear.  Does anyone know
which brand might be best?  We have one player with knees that are all
black and blue.  Seems like less talented teams are taking a lot of cheap
shots.  Brand name and maybe best sources would be very helpful.

Thanks,

Doc

#28993 From: Jason Brink <claystarfish@...>
Date: Mon Jun 2, 2003 2:03 pm
Subject: Re: Re: College Opportunity for HS and JUCO Women
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I am looking for 1) 2/3 with the ability to score from perimeter and/or play a very uptempo style of basketball 2) 3/4/5 with some ability to be physically strong inside. Thanks, Jason

"Burgett, Jeffrey" <jburgett@...> wrote:
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#28992 From: Jim Emery <macs6227@...>
Date: Mon Jun 2, 2003 1:18 pm
Subject: RE: camp basketballs
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Coach Smith,
We can supply custom camp balls. They are made overseas so there might not be enough lead time for this year.
When are your camps? Minimum is around 300 balls for customization.
We have a ball that is pad printed called "Just In Time".
They come in school colors but the printed design wears off with wear unlike
the custom balls where the design is imbedded into the ball.
Thanks,
Jim Emery
Maryland Athletic & Corporate Supply - MACS
888-357-MACS (6227)
-----Original Message-----
From: hoopsrus1@... [mailto:hoopsrus1@...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 11:50 PM
To: basketball-coaching@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [basketball-coaching] camp basketballs

Hello Coaches,
I am looking for a place to purchase specially designed basketballs for our basketball camp.  I would like to have the camp or school logo / name on the ball or perhaps even one of the school colors.  I would appreciate any helpful information that anyone has.  Hope someone can help. 
Thanks
Coach Smith
Spring Grove, PA


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#28991 From: Bair Mike <coachbair@...>
Date: Mon Jun 2, 2003 5:23 am
Subject: Re: academics
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From ye ol' grad school days, and I just checked -- it
is still there -- use a Search Engine trying
"ERIC.gov" or "ERIC" and search for your exact
question.  If you can't find it, let me know. ERIC
refers to reseach articles.  Good stuff. It got this
Phy. Ed. major through 2 masters programs. Good luck.

--- ken updike <kupdike123@...> wrote:
> Any Coaches have or know where I can find
> information linking the positive affect athletics
> has on athletes and academics?
>
> rfplaetzer <rfplaetzer@...> wrote:The
> Coaches'Clipboard has some drills.  I think creator
> of that site
> is a member of this group???
>
> http://www.coachesclipboard.net/Pickdrill.html
>
> Best wishes.  Ross
>
>
>
> --- In basketball-coaching@yahoogroups.com,
> "bbcoachpol"
> <bbcoachpol@y...> wrote:
> > Does anyone have an interesting drill or two to
> work on the pick
> and roll. Right now I have been having the team work
> in groups of
> three with one person on defence and two on offence
> simply
> practicing head hunting, a good screen, and rolling
> off the screen
> with a good seal.
> >
> > My condolences in regards to Ernie. I have been
> using his site to
> > teach the shuffle to my players.
> >
> > Many thanks
> > Coach Pol
>
>
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#28990 From: "Neil Gouett" <CoachNeil@...>
Date: Mon Jun 2, 2003 4:31 am
Subject: Re: Stats
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I too use stats with my church team both as a motivater and because certain stat patterns translate into success.  My teams seldom shoot high percentages, so we try to counter with aggressive trapping defenses.  The 2 keys, 30+ rebounds and you control the boards (can be deceptive when offensive rebounds are high) and steals must exceed turnovers!
Neil G 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 5:31 AM
Subject: [basketball-coaching] Stats

Hello Coaches -

Upon reviewing our stats for the AAU season (36 games so far) I have found some key indicators that lead to our success.  We have to have 30 boards per game and less than 10 turnovers.  It we do this, we win.  We can even have a poor shooting game, less than 30%, but if we do these two things; control the boards and take care of the ball, we still come out on top.  It's interesting to note that even if we do one well and not the other we still come up short.   

Does anyone else have key stat indicators they use?

Coach Lisa Coombs-Gerou
Marquette Magic AAU Girls Basketball


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#28989 From: "swishh" <swishh@...>
Date: Mon Jun 2, 2003 2:58 am
Subject: Re: SHOOT IT BETTER Mini Camps
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Coach Cindy,
Shot Doctor is a similar organization to Shoot It Better.  We have a camp at Olentangy HS in Lewes Center, OH, just north of Columbus.  The girls coach there is hosting it the week of June 16.
To host a camp, contact Ed Stahl, president of Shot Doctor, at 1-800-34-SWISH.  There is still time to do so if you wish to host and make some money yourself in doing so by getting your players to attend.
Bob Topp
Shot Doctor Basketball camp instructor
 
----- Original Message -----
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Subject: Re: [basketball-coaching] SHOOT IT BETTER Mini Camps

any camps in OHIO ?

Thanks Cindy


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#28988 From: "Nate Jurgens" <coachnj@...>
Date: Mon Jun 2, 2003 2:26 am
Subject: summer workouts
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Time to get the minds in gear!
What are the best individual workout videos that you know of?
If you can, include title, coach, and subject matter and a brief summary.

Kick 'em
Jurgs

#28987 From: "grace aumuller" <bball_grace15@...>
Date: Sun Jun 1, 2003 9:41 pm
Subject: Re: how to become a coach
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Hi I am Grace and I am 15 years old and I am wanting to be a mens basketball coach when I get older! I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions on what I should do right now to understand the game a little more and just  how to become a coach!! Thanks a bunch!!

Grace




 
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To: basketball-coaching@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [basketball-coaching] after a loss
Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 21:13:22 -0400
On Mon, 26 May 2003 13:58:52 -0000 "jason"
writes:
> I would like to know some of the things u do as coaches after a loss
>
> and how do u go about things the next day at practice.
>
> heres some of the situations i was interested in.
>
> 1.talking to ur team after a loss when they played as hard as they
> could,what can u say to keep them encouraged.talking to the team
> when they played as poor as possible,what to say without tearing
> them down.
First, all talks whether a W or L, a bad W or a bad L, are short. We
either have a bus to catch or it's late and we need to go home. After a
game when they have played well but lost, I tell them that and that we
have a few things to work on in practice. I also try to highlight good
performances or just things that I liked. When we lose try to just
highlight the bad things briefly and point out the things that I liked.
Sometimes after a bad loss it is difficult to find good things but we
search. About the only time I rip a team after a loss is when I feel we
did not compete.
>
> 2.do u ever watch film the day after a game to see what u need to
> work on?
Since I am an assistant, I take notes during the game and one of the
other assistants breaks down the game film.
>
> 3.how do you practice the day after u lose a game that the team
> either played hard in or played horrible and what type of punishment
> do u use for poor playing?
I prefer to let the loss serve as punishment enough. However, we will
practice hard, so come prepared to work hard. If I have individual
players that didn't play well, I reduce their minutes and let them know
why. They can either sulk, pout, whine and go home to Mommy and Daddy or
they can buck up and do the things I want them to do. I let them make
the choice. If they continue to practice poorly, I'll send them off the
floor first, home is second. I have only done that 3 times. The first
time the girl wound up on the All European team.
>
> 4.how do u motivate a team if u feel they have an "I DONT CARE"
> attitude?
If the team doesn't care, I've done something wrong. We'll take a
practice and just sit on the floor and talk. If it takes all practice
for us to get on the same page, we'll do it. However, if I perceive a
don't care attitude, it will be confronted immediately. Any player that
is not on the same page when the session is over will sit until they
start to care or I get tired of having them around. At that point, they
will be released to go do something they care about.
>
> 5.Has there or would there ever be a time the team has played so bad
>
> that u made them practice after a game when every one has left or
> when u get back from the game?
No but I considered leaving a team in Mannheim, Germany because they were
absolutely horrible the entire weekend. I still thought about it when we
stopped at a rest stop on the autobahn. I had a nice vanilla ice cream
cone and calmed down. Besides, my wife wouldn't let me.
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#28986 From: "dfebert" <dfebert@...>
Date: Sun Jun 1, 2003 4:20 pm
Subject: Re: Texas Coaches
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Coach,
I'd like more information about your future clinic (although I don't
currently live in Texas).  Here are some ideas:

Andre Boutte (Beaumont Ozen) - One of the most talented, yet
disciplined teams I've ever seen.
Robert Hughes (Fort Worth Dunbar) - Obvious reasons 1,200+ wins...
Ronnie Courtney (Texas Southern) - Took TSU to the NCAAs and won back-
to-back 5A state title at Willowridge (had TJ Ford, Daniel Ewing, and
company)
Rudy Bernal (San Antonio Lanier) - Probably the toughest team I've
ever seen...Took a group of undersized, latino kids to the state
championship beating Dallas Lincoln (featuring Chris Bosh, Bryan and
Ryan Hopkins), who subsequently finished undefeated and #1 in USA
Today the following year, along the way.
Danny Henderson (Peaster) - 2A state power and has won several state
titles

#28985 From: HALLOCKHOM@...
Date: Sun Jun 1, 2003 11:12 am
Subject: Re: SHOOT IT BETTER Mini Camps
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any camps in OHIO ?

Thanks Cindy

#28984 From: ken updike <kupdike123@...>
Date: Sun Jun 1, 2003 2:22 pm
Subject: academics
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Any Coaches have or know where I can find information linking the positive affect athletics has on athletes and academics?

rfplaetzer <rfplaetzer@...> wrote:
The Coaches'Clipboard has some drills.  I think creator of that site
is a member of this group???

http://www.coachesclipboard.net/Pickdrill.html

Best wishes.  Ross



--- In basketball-coaching@yahoogroups.com, "bbcoachpol"
<bbcoachpol@y...> wrote:
> Does anyone have an interesting drill or two to work on the pick
and roll. Right now I have been having the team work in groups of
three with one person on defence and two on offence simply
practicing head hunting, a good screen, and rolling off the screen
with a good seal.
>
> My condolences in regards to Ernie. I have been using his site to
> teach the shuffle to my players.
>
> Many thanks
> Coach Pol




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#28983 From: "Burgett, Jeffrey" <jburgett@...>
Date: Sun Jun 1, 2003 11:33 am
Subject: Re: College Opportunity for HS and JUCO Women
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What positions?






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#28982 From: coachcoombs@...
Date: Sun Jun 1, 2003 8:31 am
Subject: Stats
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Hello Coaches -

Upon reviewing our stats for the AAU season (36 games so far) I have found some key indicators that lead to our success.  We have to have 30 boards per game and less than 10 turnovers.  It we do this, we win.  We can even have a poor shooting game, less than 30%, but if we do these two things; control the boards and take care of the ball, we still come out on top.  It's interesting to note that even if we do one well and not the other we still come up short.   

Does anyone else have key stat indicators they use?

Coach Lisa Coombs-Gerou
Marquette Magic AAU Girls Basketball

#28981 From: "Dickran Parunak" <dickran@...>
Date: Sun Jun 1, 2003 4:00 am
Subject: RE: 4 high set
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I think you hit the nail on the head.  Last season I tried to show them too many options at once.  One option at a time is definitely the way to go.  I felt like we got plenty of repetitions in, but they were so confused to begin with, that they would have needed twice as many to get everything right. 
 
And you know, it's interesting that we had 5 different inbounds plays that we taught in two practices and everyone knew them and knew them well.  However, we went over this offense for at least 6 practices and we didn't know one option even halfway.  And I really think it is because there was a verbal signal attached to the inbounds play.  This was the first time that I tried an offense that had "set" options.  Before, we taught either a free lance motion offense or a continuity offense that had one specific pattern.  Thanks for the tips everybody.  Just can't wait until next season.
 
Coach D
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Coach D ......

We always tried to use the "KISS" method.  Keep things as simple as you can for your own team.  I would start out by teaching them one option at a time and give them enough repetitions so they know it inside and out.  Only then would I add another, I would repeat this until they knew the whole set thoroughly.  We ran several set plays along with our 3 out 2 in motion (5 man) and our 5 out high motion which we called "Double Up."  At the beginning of every practice we would run each set play without a defense.  I wanted to be sure that they knew everything that we ran.  This included side line plays and inbound plays also.  You can get this done in less than 10 minutes if you keep them going on both ends of the court.  If you find that this is to time consuming you can always do the offensive sets one day and the sideline & inbound the next.  At the beginning of the season I would recommend doing them all, but that is just! my opinion.
Coach Sar  ( Ken )

Last season, I experimented with a 4 high set as an entry into our motion
offense.  I taught them 4 different options that were each cued off the
point guard's actions.  Since the offense is symmetrical, you could run any
option from either side which actually gave us 8 different possibilities.  I
reasoned that if we could react off of the point guard then we could
disguise what we were doing very effectively.  However, we did not react
quickly enough.  It took a second too long for us to recognize which option
our point guard was initiating.  And since a major key to this offense is
timing, it really threw us out of sync.

Should I
A) create a separate call for each option?
B) do more repetitions and hope they learn to recognize things more quickly?
C) create more "obvious" cues?
D) incorporate one play at a time and don't install another one until they
master the first?
E) all the above
F) none of the above
G) some random combination of the above

This is not a test by the way.  I really would like some advice.

Coach D





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#28980 From: ms10400@...
Date: Sat May 31, 2003 4:18 pm
Subject: Re: 4 high set
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coach, I have done the same for years. I have found two things have helped me.
First simply rules as far as explanation. For example post if you don't get the
ball then your either a or b. Wings if you don't get the ball then a or b Also
make sure guards understand the need to keep the ball slightly out of center so
the directional clues are easy to see. The second you have already mentioned,
repition, over and over. Lastly I constantly reveiwed fundamentals of screening
both setting and using. Very over looked fundamental in my opinion, however in
the offense you are seeking you will find that a slight delay for thinking will
Not be a problem if the screens are fundamentally sound.   Mark Siske

Dickran Parunak wrote:

> Last season, I experimented with a 4 high set as an entry into our motion
> offense.  I taught them 4 different options that were each cued off the
> point guard's actions.  Since the offense is symmetrical, you could run any
> option from either side which actually gave us 8 different possibilities.  I
> reasoned that if we could react off of the point guard then we could
> disguise what we were doing very effectively.  However, we did not react
> quickly enough.  It took a second too long for us to recognize which option
> our point guard was initiating.  And since a major key to this offense is
> timing, it really threw us out of sync.
>
> Should I
> A) create a separate call for each option?
> B) do more repetitions and hope they learn to recognize things more quickly?
> C) create more "obvious" cues?
> D) incorporate one play at a time and don't install another one until they
> master the first?
> E) all the above
> F) none of the above
> G) some random combination of the above
>
> This is not a test by the way.  I really would like some advice.
>
> Coach D
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

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